[34 / 4 / ?]
>Gen 4 remakes >They add a challenging manaphy egg cave as part of the post-game content >30 floors deep >Requires all 11 over-world moves >cut, surf, dive, fly, waterfall, whirlpool, rock smash, flash, defog, rock climb, and dig >You need both the mach and the acro bike, but are only allowed to take one >Need to recursively go down and return to activate something each time, switching out which bike you use to access >Need to treverse the floors multiple times to activate the path to get to the end >Hidden trainers placed throughout that have brutal legendary teams and spam double team >The wild encounters all have explosion, shadow tag/arena trap, sturdy are holding quick claws >Can't use escape rope >At the bottom is a manaphy egg >You can't take it back with you unless you have an empty spot in your party >If you faint all your pokemon in this cave, the egg isn't in your party when you warp to the pokemon center >You need to treverse this cave, requiring 11 HMs and an empty party slot, to get a manaphy egg, and get out of it without using escape rope or dig
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>22937924 >/vp/ still complains it's casualized Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>22937924 Holy fuck I would cum buckets for this.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
I would probably kill myself by floor number 5.
Anonymous
tedious =/= hard
Lead with a Ghost pokémon and all wild encounters becomes no
problem.It 's just a shitload of work if you need to backtrack all the time to switch bikes and can't use an Escape Rope/Dig.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
Retarded idea, dont try to have anymore
Anonymous
>>22937924 >gen 4 remakes Stopped reading there
Anonymous
Quoted By:
There was only one bike with two gears in Gen IV, anyway.
Anonymous
>>22937959 Ebin gen 4 hate meme friend
Anonymous
>>22937961 Hating gen 4 is justified
Anonymous
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>22937971 Hating any gen is justified for the right reasons
Anonymous
if you want manaphy just inject it anon
Anonymous
>>22937947 This. Cut out about a third of that false difficulty bullshit and you might be onto something cool though.
Anonymous
>>22937994 >>22937947 OP here.
I think it should take a certain amount of effort to get Manaphy, even if it is artificial difficulty.
Anonymous
>>22938004 So then devise an experience that actually feels tough, but rewarding, and not just like more tedious back and forth grinding bullshit.
Anonymous
>>22938017 This
Having to leave and come back once or twice is fine but anything more than like 3 and you're just wasting my time for no fuckin reason
Like you say yourself OP, it should take effort. It should be hard to do. What you're describing isn't hard it just takes longer
Anonymous
>>22938017 Yet people still breed.
OP
Quoted By:
>>22938017 >>22938043 I think having to exit and return 6 times is enough. Anything more than that is just pointless.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>22937924 just inject it newfriend :^)
Anonymous
>>22938050 This and that are different things
Anonymous
>>22938058 No they aren't.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>22937924 >Hidden trainers placed throughout that have brutal legendary teams and spam double team Change it too RNG abuser NPC. high leveled, and smogon approved mon.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>22938017 What if there was a maison-like dungeon where the further you went, the trainers teams would adapt to your team and at the end could be items like the shiny charm or mystical pokemon like Victini
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>22938065 They are
Getting a legend is a cool thing any casual would do and working on something challenging is normal
Breeding is autistic, yes, but it's for competitive battling and anybody competitively playing pokemon is already an autist so
Anonymous
Anonymous
Quoted By:
Using HMs is annoying and they shouldn't even be in the game imo.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>22937924 I like the idea of a bonus dungeon with a reward, but this particular idea is shit. It's not actual difficulty, it's just ridiculous tedium and inconvenience. High-leveled trainers with cohesive and powerful teams, actually complex puzzles and the necessity to leave one slot open would make for a good challenge with the right setup.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>22937924 Seems neat. I'm not one to cry 'wah artificial difficulty', as long as there's a goal at the end I'll get to it.
Anonymous
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>22937924 >gen 4 >mach and acro bikes and why does it sound like the way you got it in mystery dungeon?
Anonymous
Why not Pokémon Ranger remakes with DP remakes?
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>22940162 >wanting complete shit like Ranger over Mystery Dungeon If you're not at least a trainer or a Pokemon itself, don't even bother. Worst idea ever.
Anonymous
Quoted By:
>>22937924 >going through all that shit for garbage like Manaphy
