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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2015 18:20:14 No.22945165 View View Reply Original Report

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>Steelix moved from NU to RU
>Camerupt moved from NU to RU
>Virizion moved from NU to RU
>Pinsir moved from UU to RU

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2015 18:21:54 No.22945182 Report

Quoted By: >>22945205 >>22945261 >>22945530

WHY THE FUCK IS MEGA PINSIR IN PURGATORY!?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2015 18:26:43 No.22945205 Report

Quoted By: >>22945236 >>22945267

>>22945182

Right, it's overshadowed by better Megas like Lopunny, Metagross, and Altaria.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2015 18:29:51 No.22945222 Report

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Pinsirite is banned in UU
Pinsir without megastone is shit

Logical drop to PU

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2015 18:32:14 No.22945236 Report

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>>22945205
| 60 | Pinsir | 2.61438%

It's still being used a bit more on the higher ladder

perhaps with some threats gone it'll be able to trully shine again, fuck letting this thing in UU though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2015 18:32:27 No.22945238 Report

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mold breaker stealth rocker

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2015 18:38:57 No.22945261 Report

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>>22945182
New toys in ORAS to take up mega slots, remember XY when it was one of the more threatening things? In ORAS its just seen as an underdog in OU but still too much for UU, sad really.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2015 18:39:57 No.22945267 Report

Quoted By: >>22945275 >>22945309 >>22947569 >>22949002

>>22945205
>altaria
>good
nice meme

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2015 18:41:09 No.22945275 Report

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>>22945267
omg ebin

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2015 18:43:57 No.22945298 Report

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I still like running Pinsir on birdspam teams, it's such a nice zero-thought-required strategy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2015 18:45:23 No.22945307 Report

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Pinsir should be allowed to become the birdspam of UU in my opinion.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2015 18:45:35 No.22945309 Report

Quoted By: >>22945319 >>22945332

>>22945267

Epic shitpost m8

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2015 18:46:05 No.22945314 Report

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How long till Tphlosion and Feraligatr are quick banned to out of NU

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2015 18:47:39 No.22945319 Report

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>>22945309
>ranks meaning shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2015 18:49:15 No.22945332 Report

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>>22945309
Sorry but usage rankings is the only thing that means shit. Viability rankings is just the Smogon overlords personal favorite list.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2015 18:53:33 No.22945355 Report

Quoted By: >>22945552 >>22945660

>>22945332
Usage ranking is why garbage like Donphan lasted for so long in OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2015 18:55:04 No.22945367 Report

Quoted By: >>22945552 >>22945660

>>22945332
>usage rankings is the only thing that means shit

>Donphan used to be OU despite being garbage there
>Ambipom and Hitmonchan are still RU despite being garbage there

Yeah, no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2015 19:25:51 No.22945530 Report

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>>22945182

New Megas to compete with. If not for 4x Stealth Rock AND Bravest Bird weakness, it'd probably still be OU. With them; however, it's just not worth it when there are much less risky options with similar effectiveness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2015 19:30:06 No.22945552 Report

Quoted By: >>22945582

>>22945355
>>22945367
>Donphan
what the fuck about Donphan?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2015 19:34:56 No.22945582 Report

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>>22945552

It's garbage, yet it remained in OU until Smogon switched to weighted usage stats for tiers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2015 19:42:08 No.22945630 Report

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>>22945582
But surely we both agree that Donphan is a cool looking Pokémon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2015 19:44:36 No.22945643 Report

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>>22945630
We can indeed agree

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2015 19:46:27 No.22945653 Report

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>>22945630
I feel like Donphan was just one of those pokémon that is generally cool looking and once saw some usage, and people just had problems letting it go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2015 19:47:01 No.22945660 Report

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>>22945355
>>22945367
samefag

i have no idea why you're bringing up donphan, hitmonchan and ambipom when the viability rankings have them listed as trash, whereas mega altaria is A+...

basically, you're shitposting meme-spouting faggot retard scrub

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2015 23:03:07 No.22947569 Report

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>>22945267
bait has reached a new level of existence

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2015 23:07:17 No.22947606 Report

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>>22945630
Donphan looks fuckawesome

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2015 00:03:55 No.22948168 Report

Quoted By: >>22948213

Typhlosion got added to the RU Blacklist

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2015 00:08:52 No.22948204 Report

Quoted By: >>22948277 >>22948281

why is mega medicham outclassed by mega gallade?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2015 00:10:13 No.22948213 Report

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>>22948168
I'm not fluent in Smogon, what exactly is a blacklist?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2015 00:13:08 No.22948230 Report

Quoted By: >>22948264

>>22948213
Blacklist is general terminology for "things not allowed". It is used everywhere.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2015 00:13:58 No.22948241 Report

Quoted By: >>22948264 >>22948276

>>22948213
If you talk about blacklisted pokemon, you'll get your posts deleted and possibly banned.

It's a good idea though, because for some reason, the worst kind of players just fucking flock to Ambipom, Claydol and Hitmonchan, but they're just so fucking bad yet people constantly try to oversell them and claim that they are viable (when they aren't at all), which leads to shitflinging and shitty discussion

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2015 00:16:19 No.22948261 Report

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>>22948213
Shitpost Pokemon, Electivire and Donphan were on that list too for OU iirc. It's basically /vp/-level game knowledge and gamefaqs-level fanboyism behind those Pokemon with arguments that go around in circles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2015 00:16:52 No.22948264 Report

Quoted By: >>22948307 >>22948351 >>22948354

>>22948230
>>22948241
So basically these Pokemon have no chance of ever making it into RU since discussion about them gets you banned? And here I thought Typhlosion getting Flash Fire might have pushed it up to RU

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2015 00:18:28 No.22948276 Report

Quoted By: >>22948288 >>22948291 >>22948307

>>22948241
Who cares? If people use shitty mon it just means it's easier to beat them

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2015 00:18:29 No.22948277 Report

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>>22948204
Mostly Speed. Gallade is bulkier, too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2015 00:19:35 No.22948281 Report

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>>22948204
Megallade has better speed, bulk, is able to run multiple sets, swords dance + knock off, generally better movepool. The only thing megacham has over it is a better ability but what mega doesn't compared to Gallade?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2015 00:20:24 No.22948288 Report

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>>22948276
Right, but these people basically shitpost and derail the threads trying to say that their Pokemon should be S+ viability in their tier. It's not so much saying don't use it, it's Smogon being too confrontational to not take bait.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2015 00:20:49 No.22948291 Report

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>>22948276
The problem is that it destroys conversation. It is just like shitposting on /vp/ except there is only 1 thread to discuss viability on smogon, so you can't just ignore it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2015 00:22:44 No.22948307 Report

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>>22948264
No, Ambipom and Hitmonchan are still RU for some reason, and should have dropped months ago

But fucking Ambipom, it gets a fucking insane amount of usage for how garbage it is, I'm pretty sure it's the most used pokemon in the bottom ladder, when other normal types like Kangaskhan are way better than it

Typhlosion is garbage in RU, but maybe it'll get better with metagame trends

>>22948276
That's not the point though, just check this post http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/ru-viability-ranking-oras-edition.3523627/page-24#post-6078653

It literally sums up the thread every time Ambipom is brought up, it constantly revolves around it and why it's garbage. Makes perfect sense to blacklist the fucker

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2015 00:27:22 No.22948351 Report

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>>22948264
No, no. They might still be RU by usage, which is what count when it comes down to it. It just not allowed to discuss if they deserve to be in RU or not. They're actually usually part of the tier they are black listed in. Hint: They don't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2015 00:27:27 No.22948354 Report

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>>22948264

Even with Flash Fire, Typhlosion is still outclassed by Delphox

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2015 01:04:10 No.22948607 Report

Quoted By: >>22948794 >>22948842 >>22948851 >>22948949

Mega Ambipom

Normal

Ability: Double strike (attacks hit twice at full power each time)

HP: 75
Attack: 125 (+25)
Defense: 96 (+30)
Sp. Atk: 60
Sp. Def: 96 (+30)
Speed: 130 (+15)
Total: 482 -> 582

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2015 01:36:39 No.22948794 Report

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>>22948607
Even more broken than mega mom

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Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2015 01:45:53 No.22948842 Report

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>>22948607

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2015 01:47:32 No.22948851 Report

Quoted By: >>22948940 >>22948977

>>22948607
That sp attack looks too high, why don't you drop it by 50 and add it all to attack while you are at it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2015 01:59:06 No.22948940 Report

Quoted By: >>22949021

>>22948794
>>22948842
>>22948851
>implying it doesn't make sense

Two tails that it uses has hands, the ability make sense.

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Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2015 02:00:17 No.22948949 Report

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>>22948607
>Double Strike Last Resort

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Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2015 02:05:08 No.22948977 Report

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>>22948851
i bet you use mega kangaskhan

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2015 02:10:04 No.22949002 Report

Quoted By: >>22950535

>>22945267

Your level of dedication is borderline autistic. Do you CTRL + F altaria everyday and shit post for amusement?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2015 02:14:52 No.22949021 Report

Quoted By: >>22949744 >>22950037

>>22948940
>Giving it an even dumber ability than Parental Bond.
>Giving it a really good speed stat.
>Boost to attack and defenses.
>No token GF boost to special attack.
It makes almost as much sense as Sip Sapper Swampert.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2015 03:11:12 No.22949377 Report

Quoted By: >>22949581 >>22949588

>Serperior is 42th most used pokemon
Explain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2015 03:46:09 No.22949581 Report

Quoted By: >>22949594

>>22949377
people like it's shitty edgy design for some reason, or people just think that Contrary is a god tier ability even when Serperior is a shitmon that can abuse it with just one move

maybe both of them

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2015 03:47:55 No.22949588 Report

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>>22949377
>42th

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2015 03:48:45 No.22949594 Report

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>>22949581
>edgy

Literally kill yourself you cum guzzling buttslut.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2015 04:11:17 No.22949744 Report

Quoted By: >>22949828

>>22949021
But megaSwamp needs it with his 70 spe. Blasé grass types all outspeed him. Give him either that or +priority ice punch

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2015 04:18:24 No.22949828 Report

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>>22949744
>But megaSwamp needs it with his 70 spe. Blasé grass types all outspeed him.

>What is Swift Swim

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Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2015 04:43:56 No.22950037 Report

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>>22949021
>dumber
>implying

Nope. It's just using both of those palms now to attack instead of one. Literally a child can understand it

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ゾトレ・キージー Wed 04 Mar 2015 05:55:37 No.22950368 Report

Quoted By: >>22950416

>Dustox, Furret, and Unown are in FU's E Rank
>They are the worst Pokémon in the worst fully-evolved tier
Can these guys move to LC Übers?

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Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2015 06:06:03 No.22950416 Report

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>>22950368
So the absolute worst shitmons.

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Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2015 06:35:51 No.22950535 Report

Quoted By: >>22951841 >>22951841,1

>>22949002
Right? I'd be kinda impressed if it weren't so weird and sad. I'm a big fan of Altaria, and every post I've ever made mentioning it has been dutifully followed by our resident Mr. Shitmon McMeme. People fall for it every time, so I guess he gets his kicks all the same.

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Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2015 13:39:52 No.22951841 Report

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>>22950535
but Altaria is a shitmon anon

Anonymous

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>>22950535

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