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with set conditions in a triple battle and a little help from the opponent, shuckle can pull off the highest damaging attack in the game.

through the many uses of skill swap, baton pass, flower gift, many stat boosts, and the item metrenome.
a lv 100 shuckle can use the move ice ball and hit a lv 1 noibat with forest curse for 721,899,685 damage with a crit.

dont fuckle with shuckle ...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 06:45:09 No.23083625 Report

Quoted By: >>23083632

>>23083565
Spinda can have approximately 8 billion different spot patterns including Shiny forms.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 06:49:53 No.23083632 Report

Quoted By: >>23083641 >>23083695

>>23083625
spinda has 4,294,967,295 possible patterns
multiply that by 2 for shiny form and then by 2 again for male and female and that comes to
17,179,869,180 possible forms to obtain....
anyone wanna do the math on how many copies of the game you would have to have to hold that many?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 06:50:03 No.23083633 Report

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In Gen I self-destruct and explosion did not make the user faint if it destroyed a substitute.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 06:51:59 No.23083641 Report

Quoted By: >>23083653

>>23083632
5,726,624 copies of PokeBank to hold all of the different combinations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 06:53:40 No.23083648 Report

Quoted By: >>23083756

If the target protects, defog is blocked and it won't remove hazards, as it's a single target move rather than a field move

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 06:54:06 No.23083653 Report

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>>23083641
wait does that account for the 930 you can hold in game?
assuming you'd have to get one copy of the game for a copy of pokebank?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 06:57:13 No.23083679 Report

Quoted By: >>23084384 >>23088734 >>23093296

wailords size VS his actual weight would imply that he is lighter than water, making him unable to actually swim.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 07:00:46 No.23083692 Report

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Someone posted this awhile ago

>in a ingame double battle
>chooses his moves
>their first Pokemon got a KO
>the second Pokemon levels up and gets to learn a new move
>player overwrites the move he locked into for this turn with the new move
>Pokemon two attacks using the old move even though it technically forgot it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 07:01:22 No.23083695 Report

Quoted By: >>23083710

>>23083632
I assume it'd take at least a couple hundred thousand 3ds's and copies of bank and game carts assuming you can only store a couple of thousand pokemon in-game and through one subscription of Bank.

Even if you had the funds to throw away like that though, it'd probably be impossible to encounter all of them in a lifetime. Even if you just injected them, that would have to take at least a couple of months or years to get all of them inserted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 07:04:56 No.23083702 Report

Quoted By: >>23083714 >>23083889

Chatter is the only legit move that can't be Sketched.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 07:07:55 No.23083710 Report

Quoted By: >>23083777 >>23085337 >>23085393

>>23083695
ok, so if one copy of the game comes with one copy of pokebank thats 3930 pokemon you can hold on one game card.
so that comes out to 4,317,467.98 copies of pokemon you'd have to own to "have" them all

assuming each game costs 40$ plus 5$ for the bank that comes out to a whopping 194,286,059$ you'd have to spend....

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 07:12:27 No.23083714 Report

Quoted By: >>23083889

>>23083702
Don't forget sketch itself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 07:15:34 No.23083720 Report

Quoted By: >>23083722

i dont know if this got patched in OR/AS
but
Cofagrigus could not be traded over the GTS without a nickname because the name contains
co"FAG"grigus, and couldnt pass through the GTS's censors

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 07:16:18 No.23083722 Report

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>>23083720
This was fixed in XY.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 07:21:07 No.23083742 Report

Quoted By: >>23089995

ill be honest with you guys.
it wasnt untill X7Y came out that i realized rotom is "motor" spelled backwards, which would make sense as to why it turns into appliances.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 07:24:23 No.23083756 Report

Quoted By: >>23093209

>>23083648
Protect is a bulshit move.
It should activate recoil effects from moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 07:29:05 No.23083777 Report

Quoted By: >>23083782

>>23083710
What would nintendo's reaction be if someone actually did that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 07:29:58 No.23083782 Report

Quoted By: >>23083859

>>23083777
hooray, we're 200,000 dollars richer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 08:06:37 No.23083859 Report

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>>23083782
You missed a set of zeroes

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 08:13:26 No.23083870 Report

Quoted By: >>23083933 >>23084424 >>23088629

>If a flying type is using dig, EQ and magnitude still can't hurt it.

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Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 08:17:32 No.23083876 Report

Quoted By: >>23087948 >>23088141

Wide Guard doesn't stop multi-target status moves like Dark Void from going through.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 08:18:52 No.23083878 Report

Quoted By: >>23088148

Grassy Terrain halves the power of Earthquake and Magnitude.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 08:25:57 No.23083889 Report

Quoted By: >>23084418

>>23083702
>>23083714
and Hyperspace Fury

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 08:49:24 No.23083933 Report

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>>23083870
Not fair. That's fucking bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 09:45:43 No.23084061 Report

Quoted By: >>23084089 >>23084413

An unboosted Sunflora's HP Fire is almost as strong as a Darmanitan's Fire Blast

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 09:46:08 No.23084065 Report

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Air Lock bypasses primal weather immunities

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Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 09:57:37 No.23084089 Report

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>>23084061

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Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 10:19:55 No.23084125 Report

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>>23083565

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Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 12:31:22 No.23084384 Report

Quoted By: >>23084522

>>23083679
>lighter than water
>not able to swim

pick one

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 12:34:56 No.23084402 Report

Quoted By: >>23085836

>>23083623
shuckle doesn't learn ice ball

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 12:38:17 No.23084413 Report

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>>23084061
Sunflora is also the only non-legendary grass type that can learn Earth Power (besides Torterra but really, you would expect it from a Ground type)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 12:39:29 No.23084418 Report

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>>23083889
It can be sketched but not used.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 12:41:24 No.23084424 Report

Quoted By: >>23085870

>>23083870
Isn't that also the case of Levitate? Can't remember fully.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 12:51:44 No.23084460 Report

Quoted By: >>23084463

>>23083607

>what is insect plate arceus

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 12:53:14 No.23084463 Report

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>>23084460
Not a true bug

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 13:08:34 No.23084522 Report

Quoted By: >>23085428

>>23084384
It's lighter than water, so it floats
Floating=/=swimming

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 16:29:11 No.23085337 Report

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>>23083710

This is the best thread ever. Why can't it always be like this /vp/?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 16:37:12 No.23085393 Report

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>>23083710
Literally the only amusing part of this thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 16:45:19 No.23085428 Report

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>>23084522
It couldn't dive though. Try dragging a balloon underwater.

Unless it did some kind of ballast water tank thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 17:01:30 No.23085504 Report

Quoted By: >>23085520

>>23083565
> Ditto, Spinda, Delibird and Unown have more base attack than Onix
> Combee and Skitty have better base defenses than Sharpedo
> Only 3 Pokemon have less base SpA than M-Beedrill (Bonsly, Feebas, Shuckle)
> Slaking's BST is the same as Groudon and Kyogre
> Smeargle is the second worst Pokemon when it comes to base attacks (from fully evolved Pokemon). The first one is Shuckle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 17:05:05 No.23085520 Report

Quoted By: >>23085613

>>23085504

> Ditto, Spinda, Delibird and Unown have more base attack than Onix

Let's not forget about Joltik and Larvesta.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 17:20:45 No.23085613 Report

Quoted By: >>23088179

>>23085520
Speaking of Larvesta...
> Trapinch and Larvesta have better base attack than their evolutions

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 17:53:54 No.23085836 Report

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>>23084402
>what is mimic

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 17:59:46 No.23085870 Report

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>>23084424
Yep. A Vibrava or Flygon using Dig is still immune to Ground-type attacks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 18:03:58 No.23085893 Report

Quoted By: >>23087843

>Magikarp's BST increases by 340 points when it evolves into Gyarados, tied with Feebas for the largest jump. However, its base speed only increases by 1 point.

>Hitmonlee has had the most signature moves (i.e., moves only it can learn by leveling up), with four, but only two are currently, and one of them, Rolling Kick, is shared with Hitmontop.

>Blissey's base HP is higher than the BSTs of 45 other Pokemon.

>22 Pokemon were changed to at least part Fairy type when X and Y were released.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 23:10:53 No.23087843 Report

Quoted By: >>23087892 >>23087918

>>23085893
>>Blissey's base HP is higher than the BSTs of 45 other Pokemon.
If a Blissy has maxed HP IVs and EVs, what will it's HP max out at, at level 100?

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Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 23:17:45 No.23087892 Report

Quoted By: >>23087918

>>23087843
714 max HP

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 23:22:16 No.23087918 Report

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>>23087843
>>23087892
And this is why using recoil moves is suicidal against Blissey.

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Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 23:27:05 No.23087948 Report

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>>23083876
I found this out the hard way, I was fucking livid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2015 00:03:45 No.23088141 Report

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>>23083876
WHY GOD WHY

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2015 00:05:18 No.23088148 Report

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>>23083878
Love it. Need to use it more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2015 00:09:42 No.23088179 Report

Quoted By: >>23088372

>>23085613
Trapinch has the same base attack as flygon.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2015 00:26:30 No.23088297 Report

Quoted By: >>23095950

>>23083607

Yanmega's Japanese name is Megayanma. Though the potential consequence of this is obvious, it must still be listed here for emphasis: MEGA MEGAYANMA.

Prior to Gen 5, Yanmega had the highest BST of all Bug types. If MEGA MEGAYANMA became a thing, it would reclaim this title.

Despite being a Gen 4 Pokemon and at the time having the highest Bug BST, because of DP's retarded regional Pokedex the Bug E4 was given a Poison/Dark Pokemon as his ace instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2015 00:33:34 No.23088353 Report

Quoted By: >>23088691 >>23088865

>>23083623
this is outdated
>+6 Fire Type Mega Rayquaza with Huge Power holding metronome uses V-Create in sun with two Cherrims using Helping Hand on a -6 Grass/Bug/Steel type Durant with Dry Skin
>Durant held on using its focus sash! :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2015 00:35:58 No.23088372 Report

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>>23088179
You are right but I obviously meant Vibrava.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2015 00:46:33 No.23088422 Report

Quoted By: >>23089374 >>23090003

Kinesis was only available through Metronome

ゾトレ・キージー

ゾトレ・キージー Mon 23 Mar 2015 01:16:44 No.23088629 Report

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>>23083870
I remember that once my older brother was battling my younger the older's Eviolite Onix vs. the younger's Gliscor. He was having trouble doing damage to Gliscor because it immumed Earthquake, and he did not react well when Earthquake missed Gliscor while it was underground
The older brother still won

ゾトレ・キージー

ゾトレ・キージー Mon 23 Mar 2015 01:26:50 No.23088691 Report

Quoted By: >>23088865

>>23088353
Calculated.
Raylmao V-Create: 679833 damage
Shuckle Ice Ball: 721899685 damage

Not even close, Anon.

ゾトレ・キージー

ゾトレ・キージー Mon 23 Mar 2015 01:35:37 No.23088734 Report

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>>23083679
Actually, he's less dense than Hydrogen three times over, and that's the least dense stuff in the universe, so he'd just float into space and die.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2015 01:56:14 No.23088865 Report

Quoted By: >>23089410

>>23088353
>>23088691
+6 252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Mega Rayquaza Helping Hand V-create vs. -6 0 HP / 0 Def Dry Skin Durant in Sun: 13097320-15408616 (109144333.3 - 128405133.3%)
This is without additional Grass type from Forest's Curse on Durant, without buffs from Cherims' Flower Gift and second Helping Hand.
15,408,616 * 2 * 1,5 * 1,5 * 1,5 = 104,008,158

I am probably wrong but I'm closer to the real result than tripfag.

Also, did someone try doing this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2015 03:14:51 No.23089374 Report

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>>23088422
Are there any other moves in Gen 1 that could only be obtained through Metronome?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2015 03:21:52 No.23089410 Report

Quoted By: >>23089899 >>23093266

>>23088865
Wouldn't a Paras work better than a Durant for calculating damage?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2015 04:21:51 No.23089899 Report

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>>23089410
think about it anon, think hard if you have to

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2015 04:27:08 No.23089930 Report

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You can switch out of ingrains effect if you are a ghost type or are holding a shed shell.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2015 04:37:18 No.23089995 Report

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>>23083742
woah

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2015 04:38:07 No.23090003 Report

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>>23088422
Sorta true. Kenesis was only available though Metronome in Red and Blue. In Yellow, you find wild Kadabra that knew it.

Also, Lickitung couldn't learn Lick at all in gen 1.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2015 18:00:57 No.23093209 Report

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>>23083756
How recoil works with the pokemon taking damage. How would that ever work?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2015 18:16:22 No.23093266 Report

Quoted By: >>23096655

>>23089410
Forest's Curse wouldn't work on Paras meaning it'd only be 4 times weak to fire as opposed to Steel/Bug/Grass Durant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2015 18:23:46 No.23093296 Report

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>>23083679
Well, check out its species.
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Wailord_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29

Float Whale Pokemon.

That's right. It's a blimp.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2015 18:28:07 No.23093323 Report

Quoted By: >>23096567

In terms of base stat totals, there are two exceptions:
-The only Pokemon to lose BST upon evolving is Shedinja. No real surprise there.
-The only Pokemon to not gain any BST upon evolution is Scizor. It has the same total as Scyther but rearranged.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2015 18:44:47 No.23093444 Report

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Krabby's attack BP is the same as Infernape's

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Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2015 18:45:41 No.23093449 Report

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>>23083565
>Sturdy Pokémon are immune to OHKO moves, but Focus Sash holders still get their health reduced to 1

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2015 18:52:38 No.23093488 Report

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Purugly is faster than Gengar, Latias and Latios, Rapidash and Garchomp.
Persain is faster than Purugly

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Mar 2015 00:17:18 No.23095911 Report

Quoted By: >>23096475

Starting from BW onward (?), using L+A in the move selection screen will let you see what the move does. Won't work if L = A.

In BW/BW2, you can tap on a pokemon's sprite in its summary and it will turn around so you can see its back.

In Pokemon XY, doing this will make the pokemon do one of its animations.

In RBY/FRLG, each Gym leader has a type advantage against the previous except for Blaine (Fire vs Psychic)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Mar 2015 00:24:07 No.23095950 Report

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>>23088297
>implying Mega Volcarona won't happen before or concurrently to the introduction of MEGA MEGAYANMEGAYANMA

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Mar 2015 01:48:23 No.23096475 Report

Quoted By: >>23096490

>>23095911
>In RBY/FRLG, each Gym leader has a type advantage against the previous except for Blaine
What about Erika and Lt. Surge?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Mar 2015 01:52:36 No.23096490 Report

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>>23096475
It's a bit of a stretch, but Grass resists Electric moves so he's at least somewhat right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Mar 2015 01:52:45 No.23096491 Report

Quoted By: >>23096553

>Using defence curl before rollout will increase the damage

Also

>Using stomp on a pokemon under minimize will always hit and has it power doubled

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Mar 2015 02:03:02 No.23096540 Report

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>fire blast and hydro pump don't improve accuracy in there respective weather (subject, rain)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Mar 2015 02:04:49 No.23096553 Report

Quoted By: >>23096560 >>23096608 >>23096670

>>23096491
>Using stomp on a pokemon under minimize will always hit and has it power doubled
Well I know what I'm using against the next jap that challenges me

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Mar 2015 02:06:05 No.23096560 Report

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>>23096553
Stomp Kangaskhan new meta, 49% chance to flinch

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Anonymous Tue 24 Mar 2015 02:06:41 No.23096567 Report

Quoted By: >>23096644

>>23093323

Shedinja is an anomaly, not an evo.

>Is in the Mineral breeding group, while Nincada and Ninjask are in the Bug group.
>Doesn't have a gender, unlike the Nincada it spawned from.
>But it does copy everything else it can, which doesn't include the nickname.
>Doesn't actually evolve from Nincada. It just sort of... appears alongside the Ninjask.
>Only appears under ritual-like conditions. It's a no-show if the party is full, and it will only inhabit a standard Poke Ball(After Gen 3).

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Mar 2015 02:13:11 No.23096608 Report

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>>23096553
Its not just stomp

>The moves Stomp, Steamroller, Body Slam, Dragon Rush, Flying Press, and Phantom Force will now never miss and their base power is doubled when used against the Minimize user.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Mar 2015 02:19:08 No.23096644 Report

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>>23096567
>Shedinja can have more than 1 HP in the PMD games
>tfw I distributed a hacked Shedinja with 206 HP to commemorate Pokesave BW's release in 2011

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Mar 2015 02:21:14 No.23096655 Report

Quoted By: >>23096659

>>23093266
what about steel/bug/grass durant with dry skin power swapped onto it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Mar 2015 02:22:13 No.23096659 Report

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>>23096655
It already says that in the original post.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Mar 2015 02:24:42 No.23096670 Report

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>>23096553
Works with body slam too. Maybe heavy slam?

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