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Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 18:03:12 No.23085889 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>23085907 >>23085918 >>23085945 >>23086288 >>23092047

Gamefreak puts you in charge of deciding the type spread of Gym Leaders and the Elite 4 in the next pokemon game. What types do you put where and why? Go!

My picks would be:
1st Fairy
2nd Fire
3rd Ground
4th Steel
5th Dark
6th Ghost
7th Poison
8th Trade Gym (Pokemon that evolve through trade/with or without held items)

Elite 4:

1st Member: Electric
2nd Member: Grass
3rd Member: Flying
4th Member: Normal

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 18:08:12 No.23085903 Report

Quoted By: >>23085928

If we're adding things like a Trade theme, I think it would be pretty cool if the E4 used weather based teams like N did - though with much better designed teams.

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Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 18:09:15 No.23085907 Report

Quoted By: >>23085912

>>23085889
wasnt there a thread like this just some hours ago?

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Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 18:11:43 No.23085912 Report

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>>23085907
yes. I deleted it because i realized i posted a wall of text in the OP. Not that it seems to have helped anything but eh. I find this topic interesting.

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Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 18:12:26 No.23085918 Report

Quoted By: >>23085936

>>23085889
This pic made me realize Sinnoh has by far the most forgettable E4. I actually had to look up to remember their names, let alone teams.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 18:14:02 No.23085926 Report

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I feel like at the very least any E4 member should utilize two main types - with their ace being a dual type of both.

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Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 18:14:15 No.23085928 Report

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>>23085903
In general i'd like for them to explore themes outside of just typings. Pokemon that evolve with held items when leveling. Colour theme, One idea i had for the E4 flying member was that he could use all of the main birds from each gen. So like Pidgeot, Swellow, Staraptor, Unfezant, Talonflame etc.

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Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 18:16:16 No.23085934 Report

Quoted By: >>23085943 >>23086288

Fixed

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Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 18:16:35 No.23085936 Report

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>>23085918
yeah Aaron, Bertha, Flint, Lucian or something like that. They all feel pretty uninspired. But cynthia was pretty boss and probably the most challenging champion for me personally.

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Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 18:17:49 No.23085943 Report

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>>23085934
I was sure something was missing. I just picked that image off of google as it was the most appropriate to my topic as i could find.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 18:18:04 No.23085945 Report

Quoted By: >>23085955 >>23086653

>>23085889
Alder is mostly specialized in Bug types, while Steven is both a Rock and Steel specialist.

People actually believe that Steven is purely a Steel trainer. Lance is also a riddle, Dragon Pokemon specialist who happens to use dragon looking Pokemon or Pokemon that can learn Dragon moves, most of those also have a Flying sub-type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 18:18:59 No.23085949 Report

Quoted By: >>23085960 >>23085973

>>23085928
How about a Friendship E4? Would be a total moral fag constantly preaching about loving your Pokemon, would only use Pokemon that evolve when their Friendship is maxed out.

Possible Team;

Crobat
Espeon
Azumarill
Snorlax
Togekiss
Mega-Lopunny

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 18:19:39 No.23085955 Report

Quoted By: >>23085967

>>23085945
Actually all of Lances Pokemon have flying subtype. 3 Dragonite, a Charizard, a Gyarados and an Aerodactyl.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 18:20:28 No.23085960 Report

Quoted By: >>23086369

>>23085949
>no Keldeo, Rapidash, Zebstrika and Eeveelutions
Dropped.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 18:22:26 No.23085967 Report

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>>23085955
Well, the first encounter ones always did to be specific. Iris also has a Dragon theme and not solely a type based team, Lapras and Aggron share lot of Dragon moves with said type.

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Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 18:24:28 No.23085973 Report

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>>23085949
Any team based gimmick like that would be fun to try at least once imo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 19:05:19 No.23086142 Report

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Order depending on gifted TM, game position and utility.
>Gyms:
[1st] Grass (Grass Knot / Natural Gift) / Ground (Bulldoze)
[2nd] Dark (Taunt / Fling) (circus/amusement park theme
[3rd] Fighting (Bulk Up) (Major City?)
[4th] Steel (Flash Cannon) / Poison (Toxic / Venoshock) (Major City?)
[5th] Bug (X-Scissor)
[6th] Water (Brine)
[7th] Dragon (Dragon Claw / Dragon Breath)
[8th] Grass (Giga Drain) / Rock (Stone Edge) / Ground (Earthquake)

>Elite 4 (linear or not linear):
[1st] Electric
[2nd] Flying
[3rd] Fairy
[4th] Poison / Steel / Normal

>Champion:
Normal / Undefined

>Villain Team Boss / Support Characters / Post Game & Recurrent Characters:
- Undefined + Remaining Type + Used Gym/E4 types with undefined type featured Pokemon

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Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 19:09:44 No.23086166 Report

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Don't really care much for gyms since they're discussed to hell but I would love if they finally made an E4 with Fire, Water and Grass, maybe throw in Electric too. The idea that the starting types you pick from are all 'mastered' and are main parts of your final challenge before you fight the champion has always been pretty cool thought to me. I give mention to Electric because Pikachu was an option as a starter and it could round up a decent E4.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 19:26:40 No.23086270 Report

Quoted By: >>23089522

1st gym- Ghost (screw all those early game normal types)
2nd gym- Poison (I hope like getting nasty status effects. Pack along a lot of Antidotes. Also, goo place to dump early game poison/bug types that the gym guards can use)
3rd gym- Bug (Are you tired of getting poisoned yet?)
4th gym- Fire (now you get burned instead of poisoned all the time)
5th gym- Electric (now you get paralyzed all the time)
6th gym- Water (You get the scald TM here, so the leaders guys all know scald. You get burned all the time again)
7th gym- Normal (Most of them know Double Team or Minimize. Maybe one or two know Horn Drill or Swagger or some such BS.)
8th gym- Fairy (We're throwing you a bone since the last seven were so cheap)

Elite 4
1- Ice (Sheer cold spam)
2- Grass (All the status effects)
3- Rock (Stone Edge and Earthquake everywhere, bulky attackers galore)
4- Psychic (They won't freaking die! They all have Rest, Recover, or Slack off!)

Champion- Mixed with emphasis toward Fighting (We're throwing you another bone here, it's just fast guys that do a lot of damage and a pseudo legendary. No cheap stuff.)

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Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 19:30:36 No.23086288 Report

Quoted By: >>23086594 >>23086619

>>23085934
>>23085889
After some probably incredibly inefficient work i updated it for Gen 6 using a combo of paint and gimp

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Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 19:44:51 No.23086369 Report

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>>23085960
> espeon
> no eeveelutions

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 20:20:51 No.23086594 Report

Quoted By: >>23086653

>>23086288

>Alder
>Bug

His ace is a Bug type, and he happens to have a pair of Bug types which are too connected to simply have one of them. That's all. In the PWT his only Bug is Volcarona.

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Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 20:25:26 No.23086619 Report

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>>23086288
>7 water type users
>6 gens
jesus, its worse considering gen 2 was the only gen that didn't introduce one

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Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 20:30:10 No.23086653 Report

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>>23086594
>>23086594
better?

also just as a counterpoint there's
>>23085945
Which is why i made that change myself. I'd say it's argueable

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 21:12:28 No.23086886 Report

Quoted By: >>23086917

Wasn't fire head first champ of gen 5 mostly bug type? If Bruno is fully fighting despite having rocks, fire head should be considered fully bug

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Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 21:17:34 No.23086917 Report

Quoted By: >>23087180

>>23086886
3/5 bug types in 2 fights. then 1/5 in a third fight.

Bruno has 2/5 rock types.

I honestly don't know how you'd define it at this point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 21:49:44 No.23087180 Report

Quoted By: >>23087236

>>23086917

>Character claims to be a specialist
>Character traits
>Whether or not most if not all of the team shares a particular type
>Typing of character's ace (Only helps above points; not valid by itself)

Example: Steven

>Claims to be a Steelfag. +
>Wears metallic accessories and has metallic hair. +
>Enormous stonefag outside of battles. Seemingly doesn't care about collecting types of metal. -
>Half of his team is indeed composed of Steel types, but he always has just as many if not more Rock types. +/-
>Ace is a Steel type. +

4 in favor of Steel, 2 against. Steel wins.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 21:57:03 No.23087236 Report

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>>23087180
I just dont know where to put him anymore because at first i just posted the image version i found online and one guy complained that Alder was more of a bug guy than mixed. So i moved him to bug. Then another guy complains that despite having 3 bug types he shouldn't be counted as a bug specialist so i moved him back. I'll admit B&W and B&W2 are the gamest i've played the least and have the weakest memories off but i always equated him with a bug specialist. In the way he talks and how he hypes himself up and everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 22:13:59 No.23087355 Report

Quoted By: >>23087411

Gyms:
1 Dragon
2 Steel
3 Poison
4 Ice
5 Bug
6 Rock
7 Grass
8 Normal

E4
1 Ground
2 Water
3 Fire
4 Flying

Villainous Team
Ghost

Champion
Mixed

There is a theme to the gym leaders if you guys can figure it out.
The elite 4 should be obvious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 22:17:01 No.23087377 Report

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Fighting
Psychic
Dark
Fairy
Poison
Ground
Ice
Steel

Each gym is weak to the one after it (including steel being weak to the first gym)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 22:19:45 No.23087411 Report

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>>23087355
Actually I want to re writte this to remove the villianous team set type and change Champion to

Mixed with Ghost focus.
It will fit my theme better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 22:23:11 No.23087434 Report

Quoted By: >>23087471

I like the idea of having a Fairy type as the 1st gym of Gen 7. It's be a good way to introduce both new and old Players to the typing if they missed out on Gen 6 our zoned out/didn't really notice Fairy typing too much during Gen 6. Especially considering how many gen 1/2 pokemons have been retconned to normal/fairy. Jigglypuff, Clefairy, Mr. Mime, Togepi/Togetic, Marill, Snubbull etc. So many good fairy types to pick from that you'd normally associate with lower level pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 22:26:56 No.23087471 Report

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>>23087434
You could also have the gym leader of said Fairy gym appear for the first time during a small subplot where he fights off the games villains because they stole some dragon type pokemon (perhaps a new pokemon for gen 7 that's a dragon type which you'd meet early in the game or just some Dratinis) so drill the point home that Fairy type was made to beat out dragons. It might sound a bit hamfisted but i think you could work with it to make it good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 23:03:37 No.23087791 Report

Quoted By: >>23087817

1st gym- Steel
2nd- Fairy
3rd- Dark
4th- Ghost
5th- Psychic
6th- Poison
7th- Grass
8th- Ground

Each gym KILLS the one before it, so if you train what the gym guards or leaders have, you have a good idea what you're going into next battle.

Elite 4
1. Rock
2. Flying
3. Electric
4. Normal
Champion- Mixed, like it should be.

Gave all the types without an Elite 4 member an Elite 4 team. Also, added convenience of Rock beating the fire starter, Electric beating water, and Flying beating grass, so it's harder if you just trained your starter and didn't bother to make a decent team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Mar 2015 23:06:45 No.23087817 Report

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>>23087791
Wow, after looking at it, choosing Fire type starter would be easy mode. It's super effective on Steel and resists fairy.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2015 03:34:55 No.23089522 Report

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>>23086270
y u do dis?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2015 11:29:43 No.23091746 Report

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I did a slightly more indepth analysis once upon a time. I didn't count Champions for reasons. It doesn't have a nice graphic like OP but here's some lovely text:

Rock/Water/Electric/Grass/Poison/Psychic/Fire/Ground
Ice/Fighting/Ghost/Dragon

Flying/Bug/Normal/Ghost/Fighting/Steel/Ice/Dragon
Psychic/Poison/Fighting/Dark

Rock/Fighting/Electric/Fire/Normal/Flying/Psychic/(Water/Water)
Dark/Ghost/Ice/Dragon

Rock/Grass/Fighting/Water/Ghost/Steel/Ice/Electric
Bug/Ground/Fire/Psychic

(Fire/Grass/Water/Normal)/(Normal/Poison)/Bug/Electric/Ground/Flying/(Ice/Dragon)/(Dragon/Water)
Ghost/Dark/Psychic/Fighting

Bug/Rock/Fighting/Grass/Electric/Fairy/Psychic/Ice
Steel/Fire/Dragon/Water

Bug
4 - 3/1 (2, E1, 3, 1)

Dark
3 - 0/3 (E4, E1, E2)

Dragon
6 - 3/3 (E4, 8, E4, 8, 7, E3)

Electric
5 - 5/0 (3, 3, 8, 4, 5)

Fairy
1 - 1/0 (6)

Fighting
6 - 4/2 (E2, 5, 2, 3, E4, 3)

Fire
5 - 3/2 (7, 4, E3, 1, E2)

Flying
3 - 3/0 (1, 6, 6)

Ghost
5 - 2/3 (E3, 4, E2, 5, E1)

Grass
4 - 4/0 (4, 2, 1, 4)

Ground
3 - 2/1 (8, E2, 5)

Ice
6 - 4/2 (E1, 7, E3, 7, 7, 8)

Normal
4 - 4/0 (3, 5, 2, 1)

Poison
3 - 2/1 (5, E2, 2)

Psychic
6 - 3/3 (6, E1, 7, E4, E3, 7)

Rock
4 - 4/0 (1, 1, 1, 2)

Steel
3 - 2/1 (6, 6, E1)

Water
6 - 5/1 (2, 8, 8, 4, 1, E4)

Dark, Dragon, Fairy, Ground, Ice, Psychic, and Steel have never been an early gym.

Bug, Dark, Grass, and Rock have never been a late gym.

Electric has been a gym the most, followed by Grass, Ice, Normal, Rock, and Water.

Electric, Fairy, Flying, Grass, Normal and Rock have never been in the Elite Four.

Dark, Dragon, Fighting, Ghost, and Psychic have been in the Elite Four the most.

Dragon, Fighting, Ice and Psychic have been used the most.

Fairy has been used the least, followed by Dark, Flying, Ground, Poison and Steel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2015 11:42:51 No.23091783 Report

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And as a follow up, my idea of a lineup:

Psychic
>Mary Jane, Peace Badge, Calm Mind

Ghost
>Alastor, Spirit Badge, Will-O-Wisp

Steel
>Beryl, Alloy Badge, Gyro Ball

Dragon (double battle)
>Tia and Matt, Hydra Badge, Dragon Claw/Dragon Tail

Fighting
>Norris, Zen Badge, Focus Blast

Fire
>Heath, Mantle Badge, Incinerate

Dark
>Beth, Trouble Badge, Torment

Rock
>Georgina, Tectonic Badge, Stone Edge

Fairy
>Peter

Grass
>Florence

Electric
>Nicola

Poison
>Cid

Normal (with a new Normal/Ghost pseudo legend)
>Norma-Jean

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Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2015 13:15:08 No.23092047 Report

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>>23085889
1st:dragon
2nd:ice
3rd:ghost
4th:psychic
5th:fairy
6th:poison/bugs
7th:normal
8th:dark

elite 4:
first member: fire
second member: water
third member: grass
fourth: uses only 3 overleveled pokemons from type fire, water and grass

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