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Digimon vs Pokemon because why not.

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 07:13:17 No.23278847 View View Reply Original Report

Alright, guys. It's time.

Who would win in this legendary match-up? Assume they're real creatures or their anime versions, no game mechanics.

>Charmander vs Agumon
http://strawpoll.me/4165955

>Charmeleon vs Agumon
http://strawpoll.me/4165957

>Greymon vs Charizard
http://strawpoll.me/4165963

>MetalGreymon vs Charizard
http://strawpoll.me/4165969

>MetalGreymon vs Mega Charizard (X or Y)
http://strawpoll.me/4165971

>WarGreymon vs Mega Charizard (X or Y)
http://strawpoll.me/4165973

I say:
>Agumon
>could go either way
>could go either way
>MetalGreymon
>Mega Charizard
>WarGreymon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 07:26:11 No.23278881 Report

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come on, you opinionless fags

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 07:31:36 No.23278896 Report

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Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 07:37:15 No.23278906 Report

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>only 2 votes apiece for the last two polls, but 4 for the others
weird

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 07:40:31 No.23278912 Report

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No one feels like bumping with conversation?

No reasoning?

I'll start in next post.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 07:42:58 No.23278915 Report

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It's a shame there aren't really many feats as far as what either of creatures do in their own canon.

99% of anything that happens is fights vs another Mon, and never, say, destroying a mountain, lifting a building, etc, so it's somewhat hard to say.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 07:50:36 No.23278934 Report

Quoted By: >>23278954

It's a shame there aren't really many feats as far as what either of creatures do in their own canon.

99% of anything that happens are fights vs another Mon, and never, say, destroying a mountain, lifting a building, etc, so it's somewhat hard to say how actually strong they really are (not just against other Mon in their own canon).

I'll give each Mon a rating as to how I see their powers go (in the next post). Defense, (Physical) Strength , Speed and Special powers like projectiles/blasts, etc. on a scale from 1-10. 1-2 being about human level and 9-10 being able-to-destroy-a-whole-city level.

Feel free to call me retarded if you disagree. Just trying to generate discussion.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 07:57:24 No.23278948 Report

Quoted By: >>23278976 >>23279012

Pokemon first.

Charmander:
>Defense
2
>Strength
3
>Speed
3
>Special
3

Charmeleon:
>Defense
3
>Strength
4
>Speed
5
>Special
4

Charizard:
>Defense
4
>Strength
5
>Speed
8
>Special
6

M-Zard X:
>Defense
6
>Strength
7
>Speed
8
>Special
7

M-Zard Y:
>Defense
5
>Strength
6
>Speed
8
>Special
8

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 07:59:11 No.23278954 Report

Quoted By: >>23278962

>>23278934
For Charizard we can look at the Pokedex

Red/Blue

>Spits fire that is hot enough to melt boulders. Known to cause forest fires unintentionally.

Stadium

>Its fiery breath reaches incredible temperatures. It can quickly melt glaciers weighing 10,000 tons.

FireRed

>Its wings can carry this Pokémon close to an altitude of 4,600 feet. It blows out fire at very high temperatures.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 08:02:59 No.23278962 Report

Quoted By: >>23278978

>>23278954
I usually don't like to rely on Pokedex entries, because they're often inconsistent or don't make sense. Like Pidgeot "being able to fly at Mach-2" with less than 100 base speed, etc.

But it's safe to assume Charizard's fire is extremely hot and powerful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 08:10:08 No.23278976 Report

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>>23278948
>Digimon

Agumon:
>Defense
4
>Strength
4
>Speed
2
>Special
4

Greymon:
>Defense
6
>Strength
7
>Speed
3
>Special
7

MetalGreymon:
>Defense
7
>Strength
8
>Speed
5
>Special
8

WarGreymon:
>Defense
8
>Strength
9
>Speed
7
>Special
9

Alright, well it seems the Digimon are generally more powerful, but far slower. Do these make sense or am I way off?

I'm assuming Greymon is extremely physically powerful basically because he's 30 or 40 feet tall, or around that area. This will also allow him to take more hits, but he's incredibly slow and as his power goes up his speed doesn't increase, other than being able to take larger strides, making him a little faster than Agumon.

Being able to fly is a huge asset, so Greymon gets a considerable speed increase with the addition of wings, but even as WarGreymon wouldn't be able to match Charizard. However in WarGreymon form, he's way more powerful than either of Charizard's ultimate forms. I dunno guys.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 08:11:31 No.23278978 Report

Quoted By: >>23278982 >>23278993

>>23278962
>Pidgeot "being able to fly at Mach-2" with less than 100 base speed
It's top flight speed should be irrelevant to the battle speed, considering the small spaces battles usually encompass.
For example, with it's low base speed one could make an assumption that it cannot instantly go from 0 to 2400km/h.
It must have a slow acceleration.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 08:13:20 No.23278982 Report

Quoted By: >>23279019

>>23278978
This could be, but it's this sort of thing I wanted to avoid by disregarding in-game mechanics since they usually directly conflict with the lore.

Their anime versions are GENERALLY more consistent and a little more realistic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 08:21:52 No.23278993 Report

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>>23278978
If we're going by the show, I'd say Pidgeot is probably pretty fucking fast. Although they're just quoting the in-game Pokedex, the anime does touch on Pidgeot being able to fly that fast.

This is semi-related, but you also gotta think about if these Mon have "super" powers. For example, Greymon is about the size of a tyrannosaurus rex, so he's obviously extremely strong physically. A tyrannosaurus could probably lift about 5 tons or so in its jaws. Pretty strong. But Greymon on the other hand, despite already being strong from being that large, has "super" strength. Like during his fight with Shellmon who is probably twice Greymon's weight, Greymon flings it hundreds of feet offshore out to sea. So he's pretty fucking strong.

However, he does not have super speed. He can only move around about as fast as an actual creature that large could move.

That being said, Pidgeot has super speed. A bird that size would probably not fly faster than 60 mph or so, but Pidgeot can travel at what, 1000 mph?

So you can take that into account.

Getting a little more in-depth, as far as Charmander goes, it's about as frail as a normal creature made of flesh and blood. If you shot it in the face or beat it over the head with a golf club it would probably be extremely injured. But Charizard has super-natural durability, being able to get hit with energy blasts and slashing attacks that would disintegrate or slice-up any normal animal. Same with Greymon.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 08:26:16 No.23279008 Report

Quoted By: >>23280046

Here's my take.

WarGreymon > M-Zard X ≥ MetalGreymon ≥ M-Zard Y > Greymon ≥ Charizard > Charmeleon > Agumon > Charmander

Thoughts?

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Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 08:27:17 No.23279012 Report

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>>23278948 (You)
>Digimon

Agumon:
>Defense
4
>Strength
4
>Speed
2
>Special
4

Greymon:
>Defense
6
>Strength
7
>Speed
3
>Special
7

MetalGreymon:
>Defense
7
>Strength
8
>Speed
5
>Special
8

WarGreymon:
>Defense
8
>Strength
9
>Speed
7
>Special
9

Alright, well it seems the Digimon are generally more powerful, but far slower. Do these make sense or am I way off?

I'm assuming Greymon is extremely physically powerful basically because he's 30 or 40 feet tall, or around that area. This will also allow him to take more hits, but he's incredibly slow and as his power goes up his speed doesn't increase, other than being able to take larger strides, making him a little faster than Agumon.

Being able to fly is a huge asset, so Greymon gets a considerable speed increase with the addition of wings, but even as WarGreymon wouldn't be able to match Charizard. However in WarGreymon form, he's way more powerful than either of Charizard's ultimate forms. I dunno guys.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 08:31:17 No.23279019 Report

Quoted By: >>23279027

>>23278982
It would also mess up the Digimon side of things.
As their game mechanics change from platform to platform.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 08:34:13 No.23279027 Report

Quoted By: >>23279227 >>23279243

Is Pokemon Origin Mewtwo weaker than Mewtwo's Revenge Mewtwo?

Movie Mewtwo pretty casually whipped up a storm that was going to destroy the surface of the planet, so what could he do if he bulked out and summoned every ounce of his power? Could he have wiped out the ENTIRE planet?

In Pokemon Origins, Mega Charizard took a dump on Mewtwo, so if Mewtwo in Origins is capable of the kind of power that Mewtwo has in Pokemon the First Movie and still got defeated by Charizard, I'd say Charizard X would take a fierce shit on any Digimon.

>>23279019
this, plus you would have to compare Pokemon mechanics to Digimon mechanics for more clusterfuckery, so game mechanics should be irrelevant in regard to fights

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 08:36:53 No.23279033 Report

Quoted By: >>23280261 >>23280269

I'm surprised there are so many votes for Charizard against MetalGreymon. I kind of think MetalGreymon would smoke base form Charizard.

Even if Charizard used its speed to score multiple hits, one good hit from MetalGreymon would probably waste Charizard, and whose to say how much damage base form Charizard's most powerful attack would even do to MetalGreymon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 09:34:54 No.23279146 Report

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g-guys

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 09:36:44 No.23279148 Report

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What the flying fuck is up with these polls?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 09:54:21 No.23279227 Report

Quoted By: >>23279783

>>23279027
stupid fucking logic. those scenes were meant to sell you shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 09:56:59 No.23279243 Report

Quoted By: >>23279783

>>23279027
>Rain Dance is powerful
Okay then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 13:31:50 No.23279731 Report

Quoted By: >>23279786

In terms of the anime, Digimon is better, but if we're talking games, Pokemon is better.

Digimon games always change so that's cool, but usually they have a critical flaw that knocks down their rating. I'm talking about the "Digimon World" games.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 13:56:03 No.23279783 Report

Quoted By: >>23279793

>>23279227
>something happens
>stupid fucking logic
???????????
They're just 2 different canons, retard.

>>23279243
>rain dance
>wiping out all life on Earth
???????????????????

ITT: retards

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 13:57:41 No.23279786 Report

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>>23279731
>Digimon is a better anime
>Pokemon is a better game
ToTT is who would win in a battle, not which anime/game is better.

But at the risk of getting off-topic, you're right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 13:59:28 No.23279793 Report

Quoted By: >>23279816

>>23279783
You answered your own question, retard. It's two different canons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 14:04:38 No.23279809 Report

Quoted By: >>23279832

Obviously Digimon would win, realistically, because they're made of digital matter that could be reborn so they can fight going all out without serious repercussion.

Not to mention they can coordinate with their Destined by speaking their native tongue and even mind link or whatever that shit was.

Pokemon, if killed, are dead. They don't re-digize into an egg. So this debate is pointless. That doesn't mean the Pokemon won't go all out in attack but would have to be at times conservative of their weakest points or they could die, and perishing to a Pokemon might activate a flight or die type situation. They could seriously be killed and Pokemon are conscious enough to know that they don't want to perish.

So, in truth, in all aspects of the actual fighting; Digimon would conquer either by over powering the Pokemon, Suicide last-ditch attacking, or coordinate their Destined to snipe/bomb/stab/RPG/grenade/shoot the Pokemon (and or Trainer) if they were in serious danger of being destroyed.

Just dropping the realism.

TLDR-
Digimon
/thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 14:07:05 No.23279816 Report

Quoted By: >>23279834

>>23279793
But that doesn't necessarily mean they were't equally powerful. Which is what I was asking.
>??????

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 14:12:31 No.23279832 Report

Quoted By: >>23279852

>>23279809
Completely missing the point of the thread.

That's like saying since Goku can be wished back by DragonBalls he could never lose to Superman.

So anyway, who would win in a battle? Assuming that the Destined and Trainers won't murder each other with guns or whatever you were talking about?

If Mega Charizard could destroy WarGreymon and force it to re-digitize into an egg, I'd call that a win, wouldn't you say?

>tl;dr
Who would win in a battle between Charizard and Greymon?

also
>/threading your own post
disgusting

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 14:13:17 No.23279834 Report

Quoted By: >>23279844

>>23279816
Isn't it obvious tho? Mewtwo returns is more powerful because it's a concept of what Mewtwo could do. Origins Mewtwo is just game Mewtwo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 14:18:00 No.23279844 Report

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>>23279834
Makes sense. Just seeing what others thought.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 14:20:23 No.23279852 Report

Quoted By: >>23279873

>>23279832
Superman can destroy Piccolo in one shot, can blow up the Earth and breathe in space.

Goku might be able to go Godmode and swim in the universe too, but piccolo can't. Meaning the dragonballs become moot.

Superman wins.

Charizard couldn't overpower War Greymon because it has self preservation. Even going all out, it wouldn't want to die. Greymon gives 0 fucks about death so will do everything in its power, including eradicating Charizard with a suicide attack making it, by your standard of irrational thought, a ''tie'' but Greymon can return through digitlization.

That specific Charizard is dead, another can be bred and brought in, but that's a different Charizard with a different personality. Greymon on the other hand returns as himself.

So, one again..

Superman dominates Goku
Digimon conquers Pokemon

Hey, guess what.
/thread x2

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 14:27:25 No.23279866 Report

Quoted By: >>23279879

I have a better question for you /vp/

Which is cuter, Lillymon or Lilligant?
http://strawpoll.me/4167359

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 14:29:04 No.23279873 Report

Quoted By: >>23279884

>>23279852
You sound like you don't know shit about anything.

Stop posting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 14:30:05 No.23279879 Report

Quoted By: >>23279899

>>23279866
d-don't derail the thread m8

but Lilymon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 14:31:07 No.23279884 Report

Quoted By: >>23279890 >>23279903

>>23279873
Your text comes across as though you're covering up a (utter) complete & full defeat.

Staple your lips shut and boil your fingers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 14:32:07 No.23279890 Report

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>>23279884
/thread x3

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 14:33:24 No.23279893 Report

Quoted By: >>23279903

>tfw there is the SAME FUCKING THREAD in /a/
>>>/a/124286551

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 14:35:00 No.23279899 Report

Quoted By: >>23279905

>>23279879
>derail
but anon, it's still a digimon v pokemon poll, just not in a violent light like OP's

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 14:36:32 No.23279903 Report

Quoted By: >>23279944

>>23279884
No. For starters, Piccolo has nothing to do with DragonBalls but don't derail the thread with that shit.

And you may be right about Digimon being stronger in general, but that has nothing to do with who has more power between Greymon and Charizard, and nothing you said has anything to do with anything. Does it have to be a fight to the death? How about who would win the battle? WarGreymon suiciding to defeat Charizard would be defeated himself and it would be a draw, whether he re-digitized or not.

>>23279893
Wow. And it's way better than this shit thread. OP must have moved on.
>Where were you where /vp/ was more autistic and shitposted more than /a/ ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 14:37:32 No.23279905 Report

Quoted By: >>23280224

>>23279899

because it might attract digi-waifufags

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 14:41:29 No.23279922 Report

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Why the shit are the Diamond/Pearl legendaries so much fucking stronger than any other Pokemon? This isn't about the gameplay, canonically no Pokemon has any legitimate way to fight against the Gods of Time and Space, much less the Abrahamic God himself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 14:43:39 No.23279944 Report

Quoted By: >>23279978 >>23279979 >>23280014

>>23279903
>Piccolo has nothing to do with DragonBalls
Wat, like seriously, no wat? WAT. Do you watch the series at all? Read the manga at all? HOW DO YOU NOT KNOW THAT IF HE DIES THE DRAGONBALLS DIE WITH HIM?! HOW. DO. YOU. NOT. KNOW?

And the Other Namek argument? Once Superman finds out about that, he'd blow that shit up too. Goku might be able to come back a couple of times but Superman would eventually catch on and soon rid the whole Universe of any capable revival technique/holders of the Balls.

Secondly, a regular battle would also go to Digimon. Pokemon just don't compare nor have the capability to maintain any battle for the long haul. Digimon would outsmart, out power, and out maneuver the Pokemon.

Pokemon just don't stand a chance against the Digital Masters. Just doesn't and won't happen.

Now please, concede and know when you've been licked by a lesbian. And not in the fun way.

not fun for you, atleast ;^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 14:46:25 No.23279957 Report

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The likes of charizard and dragonite would struggle against a humble greymon. I doubt pokemon other than pokegods could handle digimon of levels stronger than champion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 14:48:26 No.23279978 Report

Quoted By: >>23280023

>>23279944
Hey, autist, quit sperging about DragonBalls. No one is arguing about them. I just used it as an analogy to illustrate that you're stupid. Also
>Dende
kill yourself and leave, you don't know anything about Dragonball and especially not about Superman

But if you insist on posting, how about citing references to the respective anime instead of shitposting about nothing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 14:48:31 No.23279979 Report

Quoted By: >>23279985 >>23280023

>>23279944
>IF HE DIES THE DRAGONBALLS DIE WITH HIM?!
Still don't get why they didn't disappear when King Piccolo died

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 14:49:26 No.23279985 Report

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>>23279979
>King Piccolo died
anon..

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 14:54:54 No.23280014 Report

Quoted By: >>23280059

>>23279944
you sound like an angry kid who doesn't know shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 14:56:44 No.23280023 Report

Quoted By: >>23280043 >>23280067

>>23279978
That backfired, heavily.

How does it feel to be wrong on every statement you tried to make: triple threat - Digimon, Pokemon, and Dragonball?

>>23279979
Seriously?...

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Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 15:02:20 No.23280043 Report

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>>23280023
>How does it feel to be wrong on every statement you tried to make
Stupidest person to ever post on this entire site. You sound like a woman trying to reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 15:02:42 No.23280046 Report

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>>23279008
Edgyzard fan detected.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 15:04:13 No.23280058 Report

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lol fuck these polls. delusional as fuck if you faggots think Charmander can beat Agumon, or Mega Char can beat Wargreymon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 15:04:13 No.23280059 Report

Quoted By: >>23280077 >>23280092

>>23280014
Funny, you're an idiot.
So that makes up for your lack of common sense. Now to figure out why your parents allowed you to be on during a School Day..

Did you pretend to have a nasty headache?..

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 15:05:51 No.23280067 Report

Quoted By: >>23280093

>>23280023
What do dragonballs have to do with a battle? If Goku was defeated by Superman, he'd be defeated, Superman would have won. Bringing him back with dragonballs wouldn't do anything, he'd just get killed again or just instigate a second battle. Post elsewhere.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 15:06:52 No.23280077 Report

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>>23280059
Stop posting like an angry 12 year old girl and only post if you actually know what you're talking about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 15:08:41 No.23280083 Report

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Saitama could defeat everybody with just one punch

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 15:10:26 No.23280092 Report

Quoted By: >>23280099

>>23280059
>So that makes up for your lack of common sense.
He said you were stupid and that's pretty solid logic anon considering the quality of your posts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 15:10:48 No.23280093 Report

Quoted By: >>23280126

>>23280067
I was explaining that no matter what Superman would win, stfu and read you retard.

The Dragonballs would be ultimately destroyed by Superman with the Earth being destroyed or Piccolo/Dende/and anyone else who has ties to the fucking balls. Hence why I said New Namek also. Anywhere else there is a way to revive Goku who'd come after Superman again, and again, and again until Superman destroyed those methods.

Meaning (for those of you who cannot comprehend English or have a difficulty in reading, or are just trolling): Superman would constantly defeat Goku. Until there's no way to bring Goku back, then beat him again and kill him off.

We're not talking about 'a good fight, teehee, giggle giggle' we're talking about who'd ultimately win. Who'd be the ultimate victor.

And those victors would be
Superman

and

Digimon

There's no reason to debate it further. The proof is in the concepts, pudding, and history of the characters both through anime, games, comics, and manga.

Now.

Kindly.

Boil your fingers, please.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 15:11:52 No.23280099 Report

Quoted By: >>23280199 >>23280202

>>23280092
i've read this entire thread and the only thing stupid or ignorant has come from those against that anons logic which means you kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 15:21:40 No.23280126 Report

Quoted By: >>23280142

>>23280093
No. You're retarded. You have no clue what you're talking about. Just a mad tumblrita I assume, either that or you're a gril or both.

Whether you're right about Superman winning or not, Dragonballs would have nothing to do with the fight. If you wanna go there, since Superman has no supernatural resistance to magic, any character could just ask Shenron to kill Superman and there'd be nothing he could do.

And Superman preventing Goku from being wished back would mean that Superman would have to actually defeat Goku. There are only 2 versions of Superman who could defeat Goku, Superman Prime and Silverage Superman. But since you're apparently a gril you would have no clue what those things are.

Dragonballs would have nothing to with the battle. If you're going to use outside sources to determine the winner of a 1v1 battle, then the entire battle becomes moot. Might as well have Superman ask Batman to clone another Goku that only Superman can control and then fuse with him so he'd rape Goku in his new fused form.

It would just be a huge clusterfuck and just like re-digitalizing, is irrelevant in who would win the battle.

You're just obscenely retarded and either a gril, underage, or an easily-triggered tumblrita, or all of the above.

PS:
>not knowing who Dende is
>I have no face

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 15:24:35 No.23280142 Report

Quoted By: >>23280160 >>23280166

>>23280126
Wait, how much ki does Superman has?
I mean, in theory, more or less to whom would be his power level be comparable?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 15:29:13 No.23280160 Report

Quoted By: >>23280173

>>23280142
Superman's power is determined by how much sun he can absorb, so he has to train to increase his cap (which is in theory unlimited). Post-crisis Superman can easily destroy planets, bench pressed the weight of an entire planet for 5 days straight, and survived the explosion of a star, and that's not necessarily his max so he's a fucking beast. Don't listen to the retard sperging about dragonballs and other nonsense, they don't know what they're talking about.

Superman Prime would defeat virtually any fictional character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 15:31:39 No.23280166 Report

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>>23280142
The strongest Superman has been post-crisis would be Buu Saga SS3 level, but Superman can increase his cap the more he trains (kind of like Goku with increasing his power) so technically neither character has limits regarding how strong they can become, besides growing old, I guess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 15:35:03 No.23280173 Report

Quoted By: >>23280188

>>23280160
Superman Prime lives in the core of a star? How?

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Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 15:35:48 No.23280178 Report

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Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 15:37:33 No.23280188 Report

Quoted By: >>23280196

>>23280173
I dunno, it's inconsistent regarding canon, since if Superman gets over-saturated with solar energy, he'll get star cancer and die, kind of like Godzilla in Godzilla vs Destroyah, but by some means Superman survived in the core of a star for thousands of years and ascended to a higher plane of existence, so although vague, he has the powers of God, and his will is reality, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 15:38:31 No.23280196 Report

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>>23280188
I know nothing of comic but your dubs are very consistent.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 15:39:13 No.23280199 Report

Quoted By: >>23280202

>>23280099
The irony.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 15:40:21 No.23280202 Report

Quoted By: >>23280207

>>23280199
>>23280099
Dubs responding to dubs, nice

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 15:41:01 No.23280207 Report

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>>23280202
>with Batman image
wew

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Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 15:45:40 No.23280224 Report

Quoted By: >>23280245

>>23279905
we've already attracted dragonball z fans for god whoever knows reasons and we already have poke waifus all over /vp/. I think that's the least of our problems

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Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 15:49:25 No.23280245 Report

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>>23280224
I doubt they were fans, they didn't know anything about the series and were just spouting nonsense, but I guess you're right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 15:54:10 No.23280261 Report

Quoted By: >>23280264

>>23279033
Charizard wouldn't even win from Greymon let alone Metal Greymon.

Metal Greymon is literally Groudon, with cannons and metal parts all over its body.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 15:55:08 No.23280264 Report

Quoted By: >>23280288

>>23280261
Greymon is slow as fuck though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 15:56:11 No.23280269 Report

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>>23279033

That reminds me that metalgreymon is so powerful than all the perfects other than vamdemon who got hit by his missiles were one shooted

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 16:00:15 No.23280286 Report

Quoted By: >>23280291

what is this
a 2010 thread again?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 16:00:21 No.23280288 Report

Quoted By: >>23280299

>>23280264
And the size of a house, while charizard is a manlet

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 16:01:32 No.23280291 Report

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>>23280286
>2010
>MegaEvolutions

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Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 16:03:08 No.23280299 Report

Quoted By: >>23280358

>>23280288
If Charizard could damage Greymon with ranged attacks, then I'd actually say without a doubt Charizard would win. Greymon would be a sitting duck.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 16:03:13 No.23280300 Report

Quoted By: >>23280305

This is ridiculous, we all know Charizard is the strongest
http://pastebin.com/9ZqkK3vh

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 16:04:20 No.23280305 Report

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>>23280300
>every time

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Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 16:19:11 No.23280358 Report

Quoted By: >>23280374 >>23280391

>>23280299

But Greymon has ranged attacks too.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 16:21:53 No.23280374 Report

Quoted By: >>23280391 >>23280394

>>23280358
But Charizard can easily dodge them in the air with fast flight, while Greymon has no supernatural speed ability and is clunky and slow on the ground.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 16:27:08 No.23280391 Report

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>>23280358
>>23280374
>>23280374
MetalGreymon is another story though.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 16:27:51 No.23280394 Report

Quoted By: >>23280409

>>23280374

Greymon's mega flame is actually fairly fast once it leaves his mouth. And I don't remember Charizard having supernatural flying speed, it seemed more like flying was a bonus for him rather than one of his selling points and would lose speed wise against dedicated fliers like bird pokemon. In any case, greymon can also rapidfire weaker but faster fireballs too in case charizard gets too fast for his usual attack and greymon while slow he is not that slow and can gain an acceptable amount of speed once he accelerates.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 16:31:18 No.23280409 Report

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>>23280394
>gain an acceptable amount of speed once he accelerates
this, but he's not agile in the least, not agile enough to dodge a Dragon Rage or Hyper Beam, or even Flamethrower

all this is moot however if none of these attacks could even damage Greymon

and Charizard is a handy as fuck flier, are you serial? Ever see Pokemon 3? Or Pokemon the 1st Movie? Or any Charizard screentime? Seismic Toss? Charizard is fast and agile as fuck in the air.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 18:07:34 No.23280857 Report

Quoted By: >>23280924 >>23280936

The fuck. I thought this was Digimon Vs Pokemon thread. Why did Dragonball get involved.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 18:23:18 No.23280924 Report

Quoted By: >>23280929 >>23280977

>>23280857
Because none of them stand a chance against Naruto

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Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 18:24:58 No.23280929 Report

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>>23280924

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Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 18:26:27 No.23280936 Report

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>>23280857
Because Digimon win out in any situation because they're fucking Digimon.
Across the games, anime and manga, every Digimon has a path that leads to godhood.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 18:30:54 No.23280961 Report

Quoted By: >>23280969

So how many pokemon could tactimon kill with his starbusting sword before being taken out by a top tier legend

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Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 18:32:41 No.23280969 Report

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>>23280961
All of them.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 18:34:37 No.23280977 Report

Quoted By: >>23282749

>>23280924

The flash could anal rape naruto

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Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 18:35:45 No.23280985 Report

Quoted By: >>23281000

>regular mindless animals with physics breaking powers
Vs
>intellectual aliens with reality busting powers

Geez I wonder who would win

Really only the top tier legends would be a match, even then it would be like a 35 vs 5 fight

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 18:38:32 No.23281000 Report

Quoted By: >>23281026

>>23280985
Just going by the mega specials already like, a lot of the megas have some really fucking strong powers.

And if this thread is specifically about Agumon to Wargreymon, that one in particular doesn't have all too many reality warping powers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 18:42:35 No.23281026 Report

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>>23281000

Yeah, too many megas have ridiculously overpowered abilities, and even the otherwise average wargreymon has one advantage on its dramon killers, they would make quick work of anything dragon-ish

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 18:58:08 No.23281090 Report

Quoted By: >>23281104 >>23281135

>people always bring in revival techniques into these battles as if a fight is always who is alive at the end
Why?

Specifically in the case of Pokemon or even Dragon Ball/Cape Comics. You see characters in-universe fight eachother with zero people dying all the time. Training arcs in Dragon Ball where Uub fights goku and hey, nobody dies. One person turns evil or whatever in DCU and it's up to some other person to stop him. I really doubt Batman is being killed off forever in the Batman vs Superman movie. In-canon Pokemon fight eachother all the time, there's always a clear victor, and nobody ever dies.

Hell we don't even know if Pokemon actually die unless undergoing very specific conditions (a total of one Pokemon in all of Pokemon canon so far has died of blunt force trauma outside of a battle and things like charmander haven't been shown to die except by extinguishing their tail)

Why not just have it be a fight, not a fight to the death?

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Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 19:00:33 No.23281104 Report

Quoted By: >>23281119 >>23281123

>>23281090
>a total of one Pokemon in all of Pokemon canon so far has died of blunt force trauma outside of a battle
Who's this

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Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 19:04:29 No.23281119 Report

Quoted By: >>23281414

>>23281104
I assume he's talking about Marowak specifically the one in Origins.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 19:04:39 No.23281123 Report

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>>23281104
RBY Marowak

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Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 19:08:10 No.23281135 Report

Quoted By: >>23281169

>>23281090
>Hell we don't even know if Pokemon actually die unless undergoing very specific conditions
You're forgetting about the several pokemon grave sites in the games.
Pokemon Tower
Mt.Pyre
That one tower in Sinnoh
Celestial Tower

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 19:16:04 No.23281169 Report

Quoted By: >>23281200

>>23281135
We don't ever know if those Pokemon only die of old age or undergoing those specific conditions though. Like in the real world example of a snail dying via salt or the few species of jellyfish who can live forever and can't actually die of aging.

There's no evidence for or against Pokemon only dying in specific instances or of severely old age and it seems for the entire region there's only one burial site for the few that do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 19:22:23 No.23281200 Report

Quoted By: >>23281225

>>23281169
>We don't ever know if those Pokemon only die of old age or undergoing those specific conditions though.
If you talk to the NPCs you would know that it's a mix of both.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 19:27:27 No.23281225 Report

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>>23281200
Most NPCs only say entirely irrelevant stuff though. Especially in english where they censor the word "die". Give me some NPCs that allude to a situation where a Charizard fighting a Greymon could be a situation where Charizard outright dies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Apr 2015 20:12:03 No.23281414 Report

Quoted By: >>23282937

>>23281119
>specifically the one in Origins.
as in Red, Blue, Yellow.

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Anonymous Tue 21 Apr 2015 01:15:51 No.23282749 Report

Quoted By: >>23282969

>>23280977

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Anonymous Tue 21 Apr 2015 02:02:20 No.23282937 Report

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>>23281414
Did they ever specify it was blunt force in the games though?
I know it was implied in Origins.

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Anonymous Tue 21 Apr 2015 02:10:41 No.23282969 Report

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Anonymous Tue 21 Apr 2015 19:44:13 No.23286867 Report

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>>23278847
I still can't believe there is no porn of this fags together.

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