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Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 05:38:03 No.23289946 View View Reply Original Report

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The type charts are now balanced. You're welcome.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 05:54:10 No.23290007 Report

Quoted By: >>23290037 >>23290041 >>23290061 >>23291337

>No reason for ice to resist ground or any of that hail stuff.
Have it resist bug, grass, and flying instead. Makes much more sense.

>Someone's hurt that fairy resists bug.

>Water being weak to poison actually makes sense.

>No reason for grass to resist rock.
When was the last time a rock hit a flower and the rock lost?

>Steel resisting ghost never made sense in the first place.

>No reason for psychics to do half to fairies or normal types. Confusion immunity, maybe.

>Rocks break rocks all the time. And no reason that grass should resist it. Immunity to flinch is bad.

>Sore about fairies resisting bug. But you're right that they should resist dark types.
The part about bugs getting a boost for every bug type on the field? That's just stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 05:58:00 No.23290018 Report

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>>23289946
And here I was expecting to disagree. As long as this comes with some stellar Rock-type STABs to make up for the new resists and minimal defensive buffs I'm all for it.
>sign captchas
Google why.

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Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 06:03:16 No.23290037 Report

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>>23290007
>Have it resist bug, grass, and flying instead. Makes much more sense.
Shitting on bug and grass EVEN MORE. Also not knowing what cryoseism is for why Ice Resists ground.

>Thinking bug should have an 8th resist for no reason.

>All fairy moves are based around the moon and emotional tricks (cuddles, frolic, kissing). Psychics would resist it because they are smarter enough to see through such fairy trickery.

For the grass thing I was just reaching, because honestly Grass needs something. I just went with what it was SE against.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 06:05:44 No.23290041 Report

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>>23290007
>Fairy should resist Bug

Fuck off. You have absolutely no argument for this complete bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 06:10:47 No.23290061 Report

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>>23290007
>>No reason for ice to resist ground or any of that hail stuff.
Frozen ground is harder to dig around in, and it's harder to break ice in colder environments. I would've just made Hail lower the priority of all moves from Pokemon that take Hail damage by one stage, since most things that aren't specially adapted to it become sluggish in cold weather

I still don't get why Fairy resists Bug, I would've expected Grass or Ground instead. If someone has a good argument for this I'd love to hear it.

Eh.

Technology dispelling old superstitions?

Psychic is gaining resistances here, likely due to being able to anticipate Normal assaults and being able to perceive beyond fae glamours.

A mountain will not crumble when struck by a boulder.

Pheromones. That and bugs are the purest form of strength in numbers.

Dammit Google what do you want from me?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 06:12:21 No.23290064 Report

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Steel now resists bug because bug bites a sheet of metal, it's not very effective

Steel now resists dark again because biting a metal rod hurts you more than the rod

Steel resists electric because metal conducts electricity

Steel resists fighting because punching metal = broken fist

Steel now resists fire because metals have very high melting points, you can't just melt it over a matchstick

Steel now resists ghost again because it makes sense, what CAN a ghost do against a solid metal structure?

Steel now resists ground because many metal structures can survive earthquakes

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Queen Faggot Quag (IGN: Dani) [1203 - 9953 - 6786] !Quag.o4OGc Wed 22 Apr 2015 06:39:14 No.23290119 Report

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>>23289946
>Ice
Okay.

>Fairy
Keep the type match-ups the way they are now, Infatuation immunity is okay.

>Water
Poisonfag pls go.

>Grass
It's still shit.

>Steel
Steelfag pls go.

>Psychic
I would make Steel weak to Psychic because psychics bend metal spoons with their minds. Resisting Fairy is silly. Normal should resist Psychic like in the TCG. Confusion immunity is okay.

>Rock
Not much of a buff but flinch immunity is at least interesting.

>Bug
Holy shit its obvious bug is your favorite type. Stop whining about Fairy resisting bug. The boost is a stupid idea and you should feel bad for pretending it's not. Bug should resist Dark and Psychic, and Bug moves should be normally effective against Fighting and Ghost types, at least.

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Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 06:40:52 No.23290125 Report

Quoted By: >>23291374 >>23291971

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 09:38:17 No.23290540 Report

Quoted By: >>23290681

>>23289946
>Buffing Steel even more
Are you insane ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 09:58:43 No.23290597 Report

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I still don't get why Ghost resists Bug?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 10:40:43 No.23290681 Report

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>>23290540
Steel isn't OP
The problem is every Fire Special Attacker is either Uber or has god awful stats. We need a Chandelure Mega to murder all these Ferro, Skarm, and Scizor. Fire also needs a priority move.

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Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 10:44:04 No.23290690 Report

Quoted By: >>23290759

>water weak to poison
op is a fag

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 11:10:21 No.23290747 Report

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>>23289946

>Ice
No Water resist??

>Fairy
sucking against Psychic is nice.
Add Grass to that
(why stop at ifnatuation, lets throw all mental effects in there, Taunt, Torment, Encore..)

>Water
yes pls

>Grass
can use all the help it can get, Rock and Fairy work.

>Steel
what the heck? Dark makes more sense given that it's mostly physical cheap sneaky bullshit.
Steel deserves an Electric weakness though.

>Psychic
Normal resist seems very out of place
confusion immunity, sure

>Rock
my #2 request for type chart changes is Rock self-resist, so fuck yeah.
Flinch immunity is awesome!

>Bug
Dark resist..haven't thought of that before. Works.
That's a weird side-buff though.... how about making them immune to sound-based moves? (Fuck you Hyper Voice)

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Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 11:15:05 No.23290759 Report

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>>23290690
>Rock resists Normal but Steel doesn't

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 11:16:53 No.23290766 Report

Quoted By: >>23290777

RIGHT LISTEN UP YOU PUSSY BITCHES! THESE ARE THE ONLY CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE MADE:

>Fairy no longer resists bug
>Normal type gets full neutrality, everything deals neutral damage to it(ghost included) and it deals neutral damage to everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 11:21:54 No.23290777 Report

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>>23290766
Ice and Psychic are still shit now bro.

Saiph-Charon

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Saiph-Charon Wed 22 Apr 2015 11:55:04 No.23290884 Report

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Only one I'm not confident about is Grass>Electric.

Electric should have at least a second weakness
Grass offense is rather shit
(personal bias: it fucks over Wash Rotom)
and it's extrapolated from Electric--((--Grass, so draw your logic out of that one LOL

Dragon offense sucks, but there is nothing simple to make weak to it (lol Fighting? brute dragon anger > legit martial art? nah, idk.)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 11:57:23 No.23290896 Report

Quoted By: >>23290900 >>23290920 >>23291001 >>23291722 >>23291922

>S Rank
Ghost
Fairy

>A+ Rank
Water
Steel

>A Rank
Fire
Fighting
Ground

>B Rank
the rest

>C Rank
Poison
Grass
Bug

>D Rank
Ice

Can we agree on this?

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Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 11:59:01 No.23290900 Report

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>>23290896
Also I'm retarded and forgot Dragon in A+

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 12:04:35 No.23290920 Report

Quoted By: >>23291311

>>23290896
Poison should be higher. Only two weaknesses, immunity to being poisoned, five resistances.
Unless we're talking offensively, but if so then Ice should be higher.

Saiph-Charon

Saiph-Charon Wed 22 Apr 2015 12:32:35 No.23291001 Report

Quoted By: >>23291922

>>23290896

defense is worth like 3 times as much as offense (as that only gives you STAB and doesn't necessarily limit coverage), so Poison is definitely higher.

>*****
Fairy
Ghost
>****
Steel
Water
Poison
Dragon
Electric
>***
Fire
Fighting
Ground
>**
Normal
Dark
Flying
>*
Rock
Bug
Psychic
Grass
>Shit
Ice

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 14:08:08 No.23291311 Report

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>>23290920
>>23290920
BUT MUH LACK OF SUPER EFFECTIVES IN MY DEFENSIVE TYPING.
EVEN THOUGH OTHER TYPES ALSO ONLY HAVE TWO SEs AND HAVE LESS RESISTS POISION NEEDS TO BE SE VS WATER EVEN THOUGH THAT DOESN'T MAKE LOGICAL SENSE

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 14:14:28 No.23291329 Report

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>nerfing Normal

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Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 14:17:11 No.23291337 Report

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>>23290007
Hahahaha let's just have everything resist bug right? Hahaha grass too

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 14:19:14 No.23291348 Report

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>>23289946

>Grass is still the worst type in the game

Thanks for nothing fagballs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 14:20:59 No.23291360 Report

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>>23289946
Apart from Fairy resisting Normal and Steel getting it's Ghost resistance back it's good

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 14:25:05 No.23291374 Report

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>>23290125
>Keep the type match-ups the way they are now, Infatuation immunity is okay.

This is b8

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 14:46:40 No.23291480 Report

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>>23289946
Make debuffs more effective when a poison & grass type uses them, buffs more effective when a grass type uses them.

Rock & Steel types get a 10%~20% increase in effectiveness of any move that increases their physical defense.

Ice types get 75% STAB bonus instead of 50%, making their glass cannon nature a little better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 15:29:17 No.23291656 Report

Quoted By: >>23291666

>fairy is not very effective against Fire
Serious question, what was the reasoning behind it again? Something about creatures of nature and fire? The funniest reason I heard was so that Charizard X and Blaziken don't get weakened by the new type.

I always thought fire should be SE on fairy while fairies do neutral damage to fire. Give the resistance to something else that needs it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 15:31:34 No.23291666 Report

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>>23291656
>The funniest reason I heard was so that Charizard X and Blaziken don't get weakened by the new type.
I literally can not think of another reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 15:45:52 No.23291722 Report

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>>23290896
>Rock
>not in C or D rank
It's easily the 2nd worst type after Ice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 15:53:52 No.23291752 Report

Quoted By: >>23293730

I still wonder why Normal even exists. It's a pointless type. It's weak to one type and doesn't work against anything. It only really works defensively, like Dragon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 16:31:01 No.23291922 Report

Quoted By: >>23291940 >>23292533 >>23293416

>>23290896
>>23291001
No, the worst OVERALL types are Bug and Psychic, which are awful both offensively and defensively, unlike Ice which is one of the top attacking types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 16:33:15 No.23291940 Report

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>>23291922
>psychic
>worst type
What the fuck are you talking about? Grass still exists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 16:40:12 No.23291971 Report

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>>23290125
>Stop whining about Fairy resisting bug.

You have to be a retard to defend Fairy resisting Bug.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 17:35:18 No.23292164 Report

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>>23289946
>nerfing Rock for no reason
Good one retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 19:08:01 No.23292533 Report

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>>23291922
...which makes pokemon who have access to Ice Beam even better.

Top-offensive type means jack shit for the Pokemon of said type. What matters is if they can switch in, ever, without falling over and dying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 22:18:18 No.23293416 Report

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>>23291922

Nah, Grass is worse than either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 23:19:07 No.23293730 Report

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>>23291752
Normal is a shitty defensive type, since it resists nothing except ghost.

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