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>>23292723
Yeah its pretty bad. It needs a Competitive boost to actually KO things. Doesn't even get Boomburst and Moonblast as STAB, and Audino eclipses it defensively. What a worthless piece of shit.

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Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 20:03:51 No.23292780 Report

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>>23292772
don't make me cry anon

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Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 20:10:41 No.23292811 Report

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>>23292682
My ass. I like Dustox.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 20:12:15 No.23292818 Report

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>>23292682
Dustox > Beautifly

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 20:12:24 No.23292819 Report

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>>23292694
Raichu is the Luigi of Pokemon and even he fucking got his glory.

When does this faggot get to finally shine?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 20:22:25 No.23292867 Report

Quoted By: >>23292886 >>23296506

>>23292682
At least Dustox doesn't have 70 base attack when it has almost nothing to make use of it
At least Dustox isn't half a glass cannon, with all the frailness of one, but with not enough offense OR speed to make it useful
At least 60/70/90 is actually pretty decent defenses (kinda shit for a 3rd-stage-evo but still not bad)

Literally the ONLY thing Beautifly has over Dustox is that it gets Quiver Dance...OH WAIT, Dustox gets that too
At least Dustox gets two fairly useful abilities instead of fucking Swarm and Rivalry

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 20:27:22 No.23292886 Report

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>>23292867
Shield Dust is a decent but situation ability. Compoundeyes is great but Dustox doesn't learn Sleep Powder so who cares?

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Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 20:28:00 No.23292891 Report

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>>23292682

>3rd stage evolution

IT'S SECOND STAGE YOU GIGANTIC FAGGOT

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 20:30:21 No.23292897 Report

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>>23292886
>tfw the only move Dustox can use Compoundeyes effectively with is Poison fucking Powder

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 20:33:16 No.23292909 Report

Quoted By: >>23292971 >>23293256 >>23293723

Design-wise? Magmortar and Rhyperior

Competitively? Nidoqueen

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 20:40:30 No.23292947 Report

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There are no 3rd stage evolutions OP.

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Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 20:44:39 No.23292967 Report

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>>23292723
I use it sometimes

Hyper voice, dazzling gleam and wish+protect. Ev's in both defenses. Works fine for me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 20:45:54 No.23292971 Report

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>>23292909
Nidoqueen is a decent mixed tank and it's mediocre power is somewhat mitigated by Sheer Force. There's worse to choose from.

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Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 20:57:28 No.23293032 Report

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>>23292967
I've tried using it in doubles with a Rage Powder/Follow Me partner, since people often run Intimidate and other hampering moves there.
I once had Lucario as the Follow Me user. That really fucked with people

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 21:06:44 No.23293078 Report

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Charizard.

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Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 21:46:59 No.23293256 Report

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>>23292909
Nidoqueen is better competitively than Nidoking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 21:50:17 No.23293265 Report

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>>23292682
Isn't it E Rank in FU?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 23:17:29 No.23293723 Report

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>>23292909
this confirms people who are terrible in competitive also have terrible, terrible taste

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2015 23:19:15 No.23293733 Report

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>>23292819
Gen IV remakes cause patterns
>Hgss: spiky eared pichu
>Oras: cosplay pikachu

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Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 01:40:35 No.23294491 Report

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I think Bellossom is the worst fully evolved third stage Grass mon. Its a specially defensive Grass type (outclassed by Roserade at that) with no ability(Chlorophyll and lolHealer). Yes, Chlorophyll is nice ability and has Swords Dance to boost, until you realize that its outclassed to death by so many other boosting Chlorophyll sweepers(Sawsbuck, Tangrowth, Shiftry, Leafeon, the list goes on) making that ability a waste. Even Maractus(a single staged shitmon) is a better Chlorophyll attacker due to it's acess to Growth for a mixed set, hits harder in both sides, and has priority with Sucker Punch. I know Gen 2 was home of the shitmons, but god damn did GF tried to make them as shitty as possible.

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Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 01:44:06 No.23294517 Report

Quoted By: >>23294565 >>23306406

>>23292772
Fuck, I've always loved Wigglytuff but I don't think there has ever been a legitimate reason to use it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 01:49:01 No.23294549 Report

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>>23294491
Its concept (Grass-type dancer) was also made into a much better Pokemon.

I love how cute it is though. Gen 2 Grass-types are shit statistically but amazing in design.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 01:50:14 No.23294560 Report

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>>23293723
>Rhyperior
>good
>ever

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 01:50:48 No.23294565 Report

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>>23294517
Intimidate users. Wigglytuff absolutely wrecks Salamence.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 02:01:18 No.23294627 Report

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>>23294560
You talkin about competitively right? Cause it sure as hell isn't garbage when it eats birdspam and Charizard X for lunch.
And design is subjective anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 02:02:38 No.23294638 Report

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>>23294627
We were talking about design. Rhyperior is completely ugly shit that feels completely unfitting.

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Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 02:04:35 No.23294660 Report

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>>23292682
Light screen and moonlight under sunny day is how I beat flannery on my mono bug challenge. Dustox is a bro.

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Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 02:14:05 No.23294737 Report

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>>23294660
>sunny day
>against flannery

You're a madman

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 02:24:48 No.23294804 Report

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>>23294737
Nah, she sets it up herself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 02:32:07 No.23294850 Report

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>>23294737
True madness was using harden six times with nincada and then chiseling away with fury swipes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 02:33:07 No.23294855 Report

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>>23294850
whoops
*against Roxanne

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 02:42:53 No.23294912 Report

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>>23294491
I hate Bellossom because it LOSES a type for no reason. Plus, now it can die of poison unlike its own pre-evos.

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Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 07:17:30 No.23296148 Report

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>>23294912
Not to mention it's smallest of it's whole line too, even smaller than Oddish. Bellossom seems so unessary and unusable to even exist in the first place. It probably exists as an experiment of new stone evolutions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 07:29:06 No.23296193 Report

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>>23292819
Tierno has one, could be what Ash loses to in the league. I realize its not much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 07:59:12 No.23296268 Report

Quoted By: >>23296996

>>23292723

There was a guy on here about a year ago who used a Competitive Wigglytuff in a regional tournament. He either won it or placed top three, iirc. He also shared some replays to confirm.

It was pretty neat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 08:16:41 No.23296296 Report

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>>23293265
yeah, but beautifly isn't even ranked

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 08:53:37 No.23296394 Report

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>>23292723
>I don't play VGC

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 09:01:13 No.23296417 Report

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>>23292682
Blissy, Dusknoir.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 09:17:31 No.23296453 Report

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>>23296417
But Blissey is more viable than Chansey outside of OU since she has usable special attack to not be a passive fuck and doesn't get trapped by Gengar

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 09:22:38 No.23296462 Report

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>>23294638
bruh rhypherior is a bamf and you know it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 09:46:22 No.23296506 Report

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>>23292867
jessie pls.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 09:50:15 No.23296513 Report

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>>23296394
>implying that wigglytuff is used in vgc
maybe in 2014 but now it's just a weak milotic/bisharp with a different type

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 09:59:57 No.23296539 Report

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>>23294638
>he doesn't like wrecking crew dinosaur

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 11:06:44 No.23296858 Report

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>>23292897
and Toxic, but its accuracy is good enough anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 11:13:37 No.23296890 Report

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>>23296513
>implying it doesn't

M8, we are talking about worst third evolution. Wigglytuff has a niche as a decent Competitive user, having both Hyper Voice and Dazzling Gleam and, also, a workable bulk.

For me, Beautifly, Dustox and Belossom are, pretty much, the worst of all times.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 11:36:47 No.23296996 Report

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>>23296268
I'll take Ray Rizzo three time world champion for $100 Alex.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 11:44:31 No.23297041 Report

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>>23296890
What about Kinklang? Its movepool is so barren to even take advantage of Shift Gear.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 14:56:10 No.23297732 Report

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>>23297041
Still kill stuff with Gear Grind, which is an awesome STAB

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 15:43:59 No.23297945 Report

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>>23292819
No, Pichu is Pokemon's Luigi. Raichu is Pokemon's Waluigi

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Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 23:55:15 No.23300253 Report

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Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 00:01:42 No.23300283 Report

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>>23300253
>third evolution
>third

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 00:03:58 No.23300292 Report

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>>23297945
Who is Pokemon's Wario?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 00:04:27 No.23300295 Report

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>>23300283
fuck, forgot

Furret can't even be that

!!TORtoOQMEfy

!!TORtoOQMEfy Fri 24 Apr 2015 00:11:00 No.23300339 Report

Quoted By: >>23300911 >>23305253

Beautifly's the most worthless competitively, for sure.
I think most worthless might be Blissey. It really didn't add anything to the Chansey line.

>>23296858
Toxic has 100% accuracy when used by a Poison-type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 02:01:55 No.23300911 Report

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>>23300339
>I think most worthless might be Blissey. It really didn't add anything to the Chansey line.
I guess you must've forgotten the SkarmBliss connection of Gen III

Or perhaps you weren't born till Gen IV

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 02:20:34 No.23301026 Report

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Jumpluff is pretty bad

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Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 12:33:40 No.23303177 Report

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>>23301026
Its a decent Subseeder who can actually put things to Sleep(unlike Whimsicott) or can actually outsped things(unlike Breloom). Statusing opponents under a sub an awesome niche too(Whimsicott can also do that but Prankster is superior to it's abilities in every way), SD Acrobatics is fun as well since it gets STAB unlike Sceptile(who is irrelevant since it's mega is a better version of it), it needs the Flying Gem to be released for that set to work though. Its miles better than Bellossom, who has absoultly zero niches and is outclassed at everything it does.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 12:35:36 No.23303183 Report

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>>23300292
Azumarill ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 17:44:21 No.23304494 Report

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>>23300292
Sandshrew/Sandslash

Electric is weak to Ground

They're both based on mice

They're right next to each other in the National Dex

They both have worthless final evolutions

Only real difference is that Sandshrew doesn't have a pre-evo, and its line doesn't have a signature move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 17:46:10 No.23304504 Report

Quoted By: >>23304535 >>23304636

>Pokemon useless?

What are you comparing them too? Any pokemon has a use. You just have to find a way to make it work on your team through trial and error.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 17:54:26 No.23304535 Report

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>>23304504
First gym Beautifly/Butterfree was pretty good against geodudes with absorb

Dustox against Brawly's Mukuhita? Forget about it!

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Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 18:20:47 No.23304636 Report

Quoted By: >>23304788 >>23306379

>>23304504
>Any pokemon has a use.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 18:51:34 No.23304776 Report

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>>23300292
Lucario

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 18:56:42 No.23304788 Report

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>>23304636

Unown is the physical embodiment of gimmick pokemon. It is completely useless in battle, it was only used for the ruins of Alph puzzles and that's it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 19:01:32 No.23304807 Report

Quoted By: >>23305115

>>23304788
>yfw Unown gets an evolution
>96/144/96/144/96/96 base stats
>access to all moves with "Power" in their name + Recover

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 19:59:54 No.23305115 Report

Quoted By: >>23305194

>>23304807

>hypothetical evolutions are supposed to make me see it as viable now

Try again next time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 20:02:16 No.23305137 Report

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tbh I caught a wurmple in ORAS and have been using it ever since...I even beat the elite four with the resulting dustox.

dustox is a qt :3

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 20:09:18 No.23305194 Report

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>>23305115
That wasn't really the point. Of course it's not viable and never will be viable, but wouldn't it be fun if Game Freak did something ridiculous with it?

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Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 20:15:46 No.23305253 Report

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>>23300339
never forget

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 20:17:25 No.23305268 Report

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>>23300911
he tried to evolve luvdisc into alomomola when he was a kid, he's 100% pure blooded oldfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 22:13:10 No.23305882 Report

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>>23292682
No, screw you man
My first shiny ever was a wurmple back in ruby that turned into dustox
I took that fucker to the e4
I still have that fucker in my current game.
I run a defensive tox-staller and it works decent enough.
Bug/poison is a nice typing

I named it Autumn

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 23:41:50 No.23306379 Report

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>>23304636
>is psychic type meaning it walls psychic,fighting type attacks
>Access to hidden power, unpredictable as fuck while at the same time predictable since you know it can fuck shit up. So good it doesnt need another move.
>Levitate so ground type moves and spike hazards can eat a dick

Get good

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 23:46:49 No.23306406 Report

Quoted By: >>23307570

>>23294517
There was a thread a couple months back about shitmon counters to OU Pokemon. Wigglytuff was on there. It was a great thread, despite a couple mistakes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2015 03:49:45 No.23307570 Report

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>>23306406
Wigglytuff has unique typing and potential but its defenses and mediocre offenses really let it down. I wish it could trade abilities with mega audino

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