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Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 18:55:54 No.23298675 View View Reply Original Report

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ITT: Hardest pokemonbattles in the series

People always talk about Whitney and her Miltank in Gen 2, but I always had more trouble with this bitch and her stupid Kingdra, it only being weak to dragon and having decent defenses sucked, along with the fact that you're horribly underleveled when you get to Blackthorn

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Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 18:58:32 No.23298688 Report

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Does the non-battling other games like MysteryDungeon or Ranger count? Because then I can nominate Primal Dialga (high IQ, good typing, hits hard), Darkrai (group battle, also Cresselia has stupid AI) and Salamence from Rnager (annoying as hell - hits hard and fast, takes shitton of loops to capture, while at the same time being hard to loop).

If not, then I am not sure. Maybe Ghetsis, or some of the Orre battles.

!!TORtoOQMEfy

!!TORtoOQMEfy Thu 23 Apr 2015 19:04:32 No.23298711 Report

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>>23298688
I only remember Steelix, Salamence, and Entei from Ranger. Probably the hardest guys.

There wasn't anything in Mystery Dungeon that I remember was particularly hard besides the superdungeons at the end.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 19:11:00 No.23298735 Report

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>>23298675
>this

She's the one of the reasons reason I always run Haunter in Silver/SS replays. Curse, Hypnosis, Dream Eater.

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Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 20:52:29 No.23299212 Report

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some of the team galactic bosses are pr tough, always lose 1 or 2 mons in a nuzlocke

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Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 20:55:24 No.23299232 Report

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>>23298711
>steelix in ranger

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Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 20:57:30 No.23299242 Report

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Kill

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Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 20:57:35 No.23299243 Report

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>>23299232
I thought I forgotten how much of a cunt Steelix was.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 20:59:44 No.23299256 Report

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>>23298711
I remember Steelix and Charizard out of Ranger 1.

Fucking fire columns.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 21:01:36 No.23299266 Report

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>>23299243
Also raikou, suicune and entei were really difficult because in the original ranger capturing was hardcore, there wasn't a bar that would deplete if no loop was preformed for too long, fuck up once and all your shit goes down the shitter.

Those doges required like 100 spins and they kept shooting glowy bullshit all over the screen every 5 seconds. I beat them by withdrawing the styler to the lower right of the screen and kept drawing tiny loops in the air until they got tired.

It didn't help that it was a boss rush where you fought all 3 of them in a row.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 21:07:59 No.23299299 Report

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>>23298675
God, that fucking picture.

Anyway, the hardest in-game battles for me were:

>Lorelei in FRLG
>Clair in GS (Whitney was actually pretty easy for me in this games. She was more challenging in HG)
>Chuck in HG, only a little bit
>Norman and Tate&Liza in Emerald (Claydol and Solrock, god damn)
>Cynthia in Pearl
>Ghetsis in White (Seismitoad saved me from that god damn Hydreigon, as well as single-handedly sweep his entire team)

I know I'll be called a casual faggot for some of these.
Nobody in Gen 6 was a challenge, even without the exp share.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 21:09:12 No.23299307 Report

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>>23298688
God, I remember when those games first came out. Everyone was saying how hard Dialga was. I beat it on my first try (Charmander) with a Totodile partner.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 21:10:26 No.23299319 Report

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>>23298688
Salamence was awful. The same goes to Entei.

And fuck that game. Fucked my DS screen, even with the thing that protects it. And it was just my first game for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 21:11:59 No.23299329 Report

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Evice is a real bastard, so is Greevil if you're going to catch all of his Shadow Pokemon in one go

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 21:12:15 No.23299330 Report

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>>23298675
I had trouble with Tate and Lisa in Gen III. The same goes to Glacia. Of course that was because my team was shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 21:16:28 No.23299355 Report

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Any time I don't just solo with Swampert, Tate and Liza usually give me trouble in Emerald.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 21:21:45 No.23299398 Report

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The fucking boss rush at the end of Pokemon ranger was so much bullshit god damn. I have no idea how I ever got past that as a child, if I attempted it again I'm pretty sure I couldn't.

Just glad I got my manaphy

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 21:22:44 No.23299408 Report

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>>23299330
I would agree on Hoenn Elite 4 that is literally a RNG based League, Ancient Power spam from Steven Stone, Swagger and Double Team from Sidney, Curse + Confuse Ray + Toxic from Phoebe, Attract and Sheer Cold from Glacia, Dragon Breath and Sand Attack spam from Drake. The Elite 4 alone had team of shitmons until Steve Stone but the RNG tricks sure helped them to compense their teams.

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Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 21:24:35 No.23299420 Report

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>>23298711
Never forget

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Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 21:28:24 No.23299441 Report

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>>23299408
The elite 4 was the easiest part for me. By the time I get out of the cave, I'm usually strong enough to beat everything in 1 or 2 shots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 21:28:43 No.23299444 Report

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>>23298675
Gen2 (or the remakes) in general werent kind to the me
from not understanding how to counter Bugsy's furycutting Scyther as a kid
to constantly getting outsped by half the gymleaders in HG (especially Gengar, fuck that ghost and his Shadowball)

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Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 21:40:08 No.23299494 Report

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>>23299242
That God Damn Hydreigon Literally wiped out my entire team, forcing me to grind my party, till I finally won by spamming fusionflare. It all was too unexpected cuz the elite four was just disappointingly easy.

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Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 21:46:15 No.23299528 Report

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>>23298675
>that camel toe

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 21:50:36 No.23299541 Report

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Unfortunately after I grew and understood better the mechanics, there weren't really any *hard* battle, but I remember dropping Pokémon Blue in the last fight, against the rival, thanks to his Exeggutor, because my team consisted only of an overleveled Buttefree and 5 useless underleveled Pokémon, and my moveset was Psychic / Psybeam / Solarbeam / Sleep Powder. No way I could damage that thing. When I discovered MissingNo this changed though.

I also dropped Pokémon Crystal for a time because I couldn't beat the Elite Four. I think I also had a problem against Red after.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 21:53:21 No.23299554 Report

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>>23298675

Someone, bring in more Claire. This isn't enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 22:26:17 No.23299735 Report

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>>23299299

I'm replaying HG and Chuck actually gave me quite a bit of trouble. Hypnosis/Focus Punch and Body Slam was a bitch.

Pre-Gen 6 trainers utilize actual (and easily beatable if you know what you're doing, but still) strategies and annoying gimmicks more than post-Gen 6 ones, I think.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 22:50:30 No.23299897 Report

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>>23299494
Do you not know type match ups? It's pretty obvious once you see the first "It's not very effective" message.

>>23298688
Primal Dialga is useless if you throw a Hunger Seed at it right at the beginning of the fight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2015 23:07:34 No.23299982 Report

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Elesa and Clay in BW1 were pretty difficult if you fucked yourself over and didn't have a good team at those points.

Fuck Volt Switch Emolga and Clay's Excadrill sweeping machine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 01:21:09 No.23300714 Report

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>>23299735
it's more like pre-gen 5 because as soon as you got to use TMs as much as you like, any challenge Pokemon had went right out the window

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 01:31:31 No.23300762 Report

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Evice
Veteran Shaun

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Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 01:38:36 No.23300791 Report

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>>23298688
>primal dialga
>not the Grand Master

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 01:54:35 No.23300873 Report

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Red definitely comes to mind
doesn't help he'll most likely outlevel you by a fair margin

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 01:58:06 No.23300886 Report

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Lance can be a bitch in GSC since leveling is a bit fucked in that game on account of wild pokes and his mons are illegal as fuck and spams Full Restores

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Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 03:46:28 No.23301502 Report

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Evice
you play colluseum and you get to evice and hes about 10 levels hugher than you

Snattle in gale of darkness
i dont know what it was but he was just annoying

Chuck can be annoying If your on his level

Cynthia platinum

Pmd articuno
pmd sky dialga has his moments but darkrai squad is annoying

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 03:59:24 No.23301561 Report

Quoted By: >>23301622

Most of the Cipher Admins from both Colosseum and Gale of Darkness

Fucking Dakim and his EQ/Protect spam
Fucking Lovrina and status

Ardos/Eldes/Greevil were tough as fuck if you were trying to catch all of their shadow mons, since they were all super fucking strong and hit any non-shadow super effectively no matter what while you're trying to throw balls and simultaneously heal your mons.

Norman in RSE, mainly because I almost never have a fighting type on my team
Agatha is a forever will be a cunt
Same with Phoebe because of all that Pressure stall when she's the second goddamn E4
Lucian kicked my sorry ass around back when I first played DP, as did Cynthia
Literally no fight in gen 5 was hard
Winona and Wallace were, for whatever reason, hard as fuck in ORAS, as was Steven and Wally

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Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 04:01:46 No.23301573 Report

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>>23299528
fuck the cameltoe

those armpits look more delicious to me

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 04:07:53 No.23301622 Report

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>>23301561

>Wally

You better be talking about his Smogon team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 04:09:31 No.23301633 Report

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>>23299330

I had a fuckton of trouble with Tate and Lisa in Gen III when I was a kid. In more recent years, when I play Emerald or OR, they're easy as fuck, possibly the easiest gym leaders in the game. I can only assume this means that I sucked at Pokemon when I was 10 and didn't understand double battles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 04:11:33 No.23301643 Report

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>5th grader playing GSC
>get stuck Claire well Kingdra really since my main nigga was Typhosion
>fuck it get Lapras luckily since it was a friday
>intend to use Perish Song on it
>fucking crush her with it despite it still being only level 25

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 04:21:32 No.23301682 Report

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>>23301622
To be fair, he's right at the end of Victory Road, which is supposed to be the toughest pre-E4 dungeon, and you aren't really given any kind of warning that he shows up, considering the last time you saw him was Mauville City. Plus, him having a mega makes it a fairly challenging fight if you aren't prepared.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 05:29:36 No.23302048 Report

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I used to have difficulties with Winona's Dragon dancing Altaria a lot I remember.

Of course that fight required actual preparation and not being retarded, so naturally Dragon Dance was removed in the remake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 05:54:58 No.23302166 Report

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Misty in Gen 1. If you had Squirtle or Charmander she could be quite tough. I mean you are maybe in your mid or late teens level wise and she comes at you with a level 22 or 24 Starmie as I recall. That thing is nasty when you are first playing the game.

Sure, she's easy for anybody later or if you are experienced, but in the context that most players first ran into her? Not so much.

Lorelei was pretty hard too the first time I battled her. She is an ice trainer, but of-course her Pokemon are also part water for the most part.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 05:57:40 No.23302176 Report

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>>23301573
I wanna tongue her belly button

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Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 13:02:05 No.23303268 Report

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>>23301682
>Not healing before the battle in ORAS
It's your fault. Now if we talk about RSE Wally I can see your point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 13:08:44 No.23303288 Report

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>>23300714

Also ORAS removed some moves and Pokemon from trainers' original teams, also some were de-leveled

XY had the virtue of being completely new, but Diantha was a complete joke

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Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 13:37:58 No.23303376 Report

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>>23298675
The main games never were difficult at all even when most people say otherwise. I don't really mind it though but if they can make it more challenging without "grind to win" I'd be okay with this.

Both Pokémon Stadiums with rentals only is fun. I was proud as fuck when I was able to beat Round 1 back in the days. Some months ago I saw people beating the entire game with rentals which was really impressive for me.
Sure, after finding the best strats, which is a skill on its own, it heavily relies on luck but it's a good challenge if you try to come up with that without help.

Also the only "challenge" I enjoy are no EXP runs even though you need emulators for that. You get to use many different Pokémon and grinding won't help you here. Try beating Pokémon Platinum like that and with some more restrictions for example, it's really hard.

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Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 13:47:47 No.23303434 Report

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>>23298675
Platinum's early game was actually pretty tough if you weren't prepared. Roark's Cranidos hit hard as hell and every gym after him already had full evolved signature mons. Gardenia had Roserade, Fantina had a Mismagius that could spam Shadow Ball, and Maylene had Lucario. Cynthia also still has one of the best put together teams of any champion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 13:53:01 No.23303457 Report

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>>23298675
Clair was a very hard battle for me, if you know what I mean

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Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 13:59:04 No.23303476 Report

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>>23299299
>Lorelei in FRLG
I thought I was the only one that had so much trouble with this bitch

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 14:21:40 No.23303551 Report

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>>23303434

I did a Steel monotype run and started with Aron. Gardenia's Grass Knot screwed me over repeatedly. I think I had some problem with Roark too, but it wasn't that bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 14:33:03 No.23303613 Report

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>>23298675
Didn't know this guy did anything outside Guro.

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