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Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 17:32:10 No.23304432 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>23304460 >>23304492 >>23304516 >>23304658 >>23308979 >>23309002 >>23309109

Typings from best to worst. Types at the top almost always make a Pokemon better, types at the bottom almost always make them worse.

Fairy
Steel
Dark
Ground
Dragon
Poison
Water
Fighting
Ghost
Fire
Electric
Normal
Flying
Grass
Rock
Ice
Psychic
Bug

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 17:34:13 No.23304445 Report

Quoted By: >>23304451

>Bug at bottom
>not Ice

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 17:35:00 No.23304451 Report

Quoted By: >>23304465 >>23305169

>>23304445

At least Ice is offensively a good type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 17:37:23 No.23304458 Report

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Do you mean offensively or defensively in that list?

You are off you're rocker old man!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 17:37:47 No.23304460 Report

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>>23304432
>Dark
>Bug at the bottom

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 17:39:40 No.23304465 Report

Quoted By: >>23304483 >>23304493

>>23304451
Yes, but that's not OP's logic.
Ice typed moves are good.
Being part ice type is awful 99% of the time, and what OP specified was indeed this part.

Also flying is damn good this gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 17:41:45 No.23304483 Report

Quoted By: >>23304582

>>23304465

Flying types have no good attacking moves besides Brave Bird, and defensively the 3 weaknesses are more trouble than they're worth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 17:44:05 No.23304492 Report

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>>23304432
>Dark at #3
Toppest of kekleons. Dark-type moves are really good, usually because of their unique features (see: Pursuit, Foul Play, Knock Off) but it's not a very good typing to have. Very few Pokemon appreciate being weaker to Close Combat, momentum spam, and Fairy overlords.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 17:44:10 No.23304493 Report

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>>23304465
Still, Ice is good offensively but shit defensively.
Whereas Bug is shit offensively AND defensively.

Ice wins.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 17:49:39 No.23304516 Report

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>>23304432
>poison higher than fighting

most poison-type pokemon are shitmons and varely used as offensive/coverage move, also by no means, better than water and fire.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 17:50:01 No.23304518 Report

Quoted By: >>23304541

>dark at 3
>mentum at bottom
>poison at 6

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 17:51:37 No.23304526 Report

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>water not in top three

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 17:56:40 No.23304541 Report

Quoted By: >>23304557 >>23308982

>>23304518

Poison is incredible when it's on a Pokemon that can that can do damage or recover hits.

>Venusaur
>Drapion
>Skuntank
>Tentacruel
>Draglege
>Qwilfish
>Amoongus
>Toxicroak
>Golbat
>Crobat

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Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 18:00:43 No.23304557 Report

Quoted By: >>23304588 >>23306488

>>23304541
Venusaur, Tentacruel and Amoonguss are the only Pokemon in that list that are relevant in standard metagame. What's your point?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 18:05:50 No.23304582 Report

Quoted By: >>23308928

>>23304483
Aren't the only good Flying types Talonflame, Gliscor, Skarmory, Charizard-Y, and the genies?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 18:07:10 No.23304588 Report

Quoted By: >>23304597

>>23304557
You mean smogon metagame or actual real life meta

Becuase if you dont think Dragalage, Drapion, and Qwilfish are good then you dont know shit about anything other than

>muh smogon ou

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 18:09:16 No.23304597 Report

Quoted By: >>23304623 >>23306608

>>23304588
I used "standard metagame" because I'm talking about, you know, the standard metagame, as in Battle Spot rated battles, not Smogon OU. You go have a couple of VGC or 3v3 Singles matches and tell me how many Drapion and fucking Qwilfish you encounter. I can already tell you the answer tho, it's zero.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 18:16:44 No.23304623 Report

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>>23304597
>Minimize
>Acupressure
>Everywhere!

Get real anon

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Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 18:26:44 No.23304658 Report

Quoted By: >>23306465

>>23304432
>Steel at number two

ABSOLUTELY NOT. Pokemon is a very offense oriented game and steel is an entirely defensive type. That's not to say it's bad but it's certainly shouldn't be at number 2, especially if you want to rate Ground and Knock Off type so high.

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Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 20:06:13 No.23305169 Report

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>>23304451
>Ice typing pros
- Immune to freeze
- Stab for a great offensive time

>Ice typing cons
-Stealth rock
-only resists itself and has horrible weaknesses
-Adds nothing but weaknesses to dual typings
-Weather effect for it is useless and doesn't help
-Most ice abilities are pointless
-bullet punch, mach punch, vacuum wave
- Every water type can do an ice types job better.
-can't inversely learn water moves like the prior can to hit their rock and fire weaknesses.

Ice is suffering.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2015 23:56:51 No.23306465 Report

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>>23304658
Steel is one of the best answers to fairies though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2015 00:00:03 No.23306488 Report

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>>23304557
> forgetting Crobat

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Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2015 00:08:34 No.23306535 Report

Quoted By: >>23306587

Water not in the top 3? Time for another buff!
>water now hits steel and ice types super effectively
>Water type quiver dance
>Scald now has a 50% chance to burn and its BP is raised from 80 to 95

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2015 00:17:34 No.23306587 Report

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>>23306535
>>water hits SE v steel and ice
As it should have this whole time because of rust/hydrocutting on steel and that moving water is more detrimental to ice than heat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2015 00:21:42 No.23306608 Report

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>>23304597
I run Drapion and Weezing on battle spot quite often.

Also, the only thing Muk needs to being decent is Drain Punch, his curse set is pretty good otherwise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2015 12:32:21 No.23308928 Report

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>>23304582
It's weird how the gen6 equivalent of Pidgeot is better than the legendary Moltres.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2015 12:45:00 No.23308979 Report

Quoted By: >>23308989

>>23304432
>Ghost that low
>Dark that high
>Ground above Dragon
>fucking Poison above Water

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Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2015 12:46:01 No.23308982 Report

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>>23304541
>a Pokemon that can that can do damage or recover hits
>>Qwilfish

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2015 12:46:47 No.23308989 Report

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>>23308979
Poison is a very good defensive typing. But yeah, it shouldn't be higher than Water.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2015 12:49:43 No.23309002 Report

Quoted By: >>23309022

>>23304432
>Klefki is objectively the best pokemon

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Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2015 12:54:13 No.23309022 Report

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>>23309002
http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/anything-goes-viability-ranking.3535064/
Correct

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2015 12:59:08 No.23309039 Report

Quoted By: >>23309050

We all agree that Dark should be much lower, and Rock is already pretty low on the chart.

In that case it still amazes me how T-tar has been OU ever since its inception (without being broken or OP enough to downright dominate the meta).
Best (competitive) bro.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2015 13:03:43 No.23309050 Report

Quoted By: >>23309069

>>23309039
Typing is important, but not as important as things like movepools, stats, and abilities

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2015 13:11:41 No.23309069 Report

Quoted By: >>23309091

>>23309050
I know, I am just saying that one of the stable OU mons has one of the worst typing combinations and that is pretty impressive. And shows how great Tar's movepool and ability is, and its stats are also decent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2015 13:20:55 No.23309091 Report

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>>23309069
Well, it always had some slight buffs that ballanced out some slight debuffs: sandstream in gen 3, and when that was not unique to him anymore he got physical dark types in gen 4, then there were weather wars in gen 5, and when that was taken away in gen 6 he smoothly slipped into its roll as a dedicated Smogonbird counter.

Also, he has great synergy with a lot of mons, like lati@s.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2015 13:26:10 No.23309109 Report

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>>23304432
Fairy > Ghost > Water > Steel > Dragon > Fighting > Fire > Ground > Poison > Electric > Normal > Dark > Flying > Psychic > Grass > Rock > Bug > Ice

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