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Anonymous Sat 02 May 2015 01:54:33 No.23351145 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>23351181 >>23352881 >>23352885 >>23352896 >>23352897 >>23352899 >>23352925 >>23353421

OU when?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2015 02:01:58 No.23351181 Report

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>>23351145

Never.

Kyurem-B is OU because of its shit movepool; Kyurem-W doesn't have that problem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2015 02:02:26 No.23351184 Report

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never in a million years

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2015 10:40:37 No.23352881 Report

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>>23351145
Never. This thing is a complete monster even in ubers where basically the whole tier is 2HKO'd at worst by its STABs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2015 10:44:13 No.23352885 Report

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>>23351145
After Aegislash, Lugia, Giratina, Reshiram, Deoxys-N/S/D, Blaziken, Greninja, Mega Mawile, several Arceus formes and a bunch of other broken shit are unbanned. In other words: not anytime soon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2015 10:46:14 No.23352887 Report

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Never. Its a better version of Kyurem-B

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2015 10:50:45 No.23352896 Report

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>>23351145
When Smogon starts making sense
AKA never

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2015 10:51:19 No.23352897 Report

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>>23351145
Chansey is the only thing that can even attempt to wall this monster. Mind you, a pokemon that is only viable on stall, the team archetype the Kyurem formes are notorious for destroying. So Kyurem-W destroys 5/6 mons commonly found on stall (shit like Heatran, Gliscor, Skarmory, Lando-T and so on) while its other 5 team mates would deal with Chansey.
Absolutely nothing on balance and HO can safely switch into it. Even a -2 Draco Meteor is extremely dangerous when you factor STAB, 170 SpA and possibly a boosting item.
Kyurem-W has no business in OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2015 10:53:57 No.23352899 Report

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>>23351145
Kyurem-W was found roken in monotype ice, where the best support it would get was dual screen Rotom-F and Rapid Spin Avalugg. Now imagine what happens when you give it REAL support like team mates that resist its weaknesses. To give you an idea of how disgustingly broken this thing is: http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/oumonotype-160081395

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2015 10:59:31 No.23352916 Report

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>>23352896
and there it is, people, proof that /vp/ literally will hold Smogon accountable for anything, even if it's the fact that Kyurem White is in Ubers.

You people are so fucking dumb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2015 11:03:13 No.23352925 Report

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>>23351145
252+ SpA Choice Specs Turboblaze Kyurem-W Draco Meteor vs. 4 HP / 252 SpD Eviolite Chansey: 219-258 (34.1 - 40.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

252 SpA Mega Charizard Y Fire Blast vs. 4 HP / 252 SpD Eviolite Chansey in Sun: 160-190 (24.9 - 29.5%) -- 100% chance to 4HKO

That's how fucking strong this thing is. It outdamages Charizard Y without taking up a Mega Slot, having better bulk, better coverage, Turboblaze, amazing STAB, and so on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2015 11:04:53 No.23352927 Report

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>>23352897
>252+ SpA Choice Specs Turboblaze Kyurem-W Focus Blast vs. 4 HP / 252 SpD Eviolite Chansey: 270-318 (42 - 49.5%) -- 87.5% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock

ayyyyy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2015 11:08:31 No.23352928 Report

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>>23352897
Agreed with all you said except AV Azumarill would be Kyu-W's best counter, not Chansey as the calcs above have shown. But either way, AV Azumarill gets worn down very easily and it's easy to deal with something like Ferrothorn or Mega Venusaur.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2015 11:21:32 No.23352946 Report

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>>23352928
252+ SpA Choice Specs Turboblaze Kyurem-W Earth Power vs. 240 HP / 16 SpD Assault Vest Azumarill: 156-184 (38.9 - 45.8%) -- 19.9% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2015 13:58:25 No.23353421 Report

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>>23351145
I'd rather have Mega Kanga back in OU than this thing. The ability to hold items and not taking up a mega slot make it way too strong for OU. LO/Specs destroy stall, Scarf destroy HO and Sub+Lefties destroy balance. No playstyle is safe from it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 May 2015 14:08:03 No.23353463 Report

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>>23352899
I appreciate the kills on mawile and ferrothorn but that was a mono steel team so momentum was easy to build with dat fusion flare

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