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Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 02:16:41 No.23407565 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>23407571 >>23407573 >>23407650 >>23408104 >>23434505 >>23450980

verlisifurry is a good player and is ego in disguise edition

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ToTT: something something aegislash

old: >>23371879

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 02:17:59 No.23407571 Report

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>>23407565
Remove aegislash

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 02:18:26 No.23407573 Report

Quoted By: >>23407580

>>23407565
good idea

let's make this more circlejerky than before

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 02:20:10 No.23407580 Report

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>>23407573
what are you on about

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 02:21:26 No.23407588 Report

Quoted By: >>23407611 >>23407654

Just bought Alpha Sapphire

What are the most annoying Pokemon to face online this time around?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 02:24:47 No.23407611 Report

Quoted By: >>23407654

>>23407588
slowbro @leppa berry
-slackoff
-heal pulse
-recycle
-block

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 02:30:18 No.23407644 Report

Quoted By: >>23409806 >>23412499

Can someone help me construct a hyper offence team? My idea was to have a TauntBU talonflame as my wincon and use mega metagross with grass knot as a wallbreaker that could remove Ttar, Heatran, Unaware Clefable and quagsire. Rotom can be removed by excadrill who I need for hazard control, but I'm worried instead I should be preventing hazards solely with offensive pressure and I should be using different pokemon to deal with talonflame's counters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 02:32:45 No.23407650 Report

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>>23407565
wud u rather yiff ego or verlis?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 02:34:15 No.23407654 Report

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>>23407611
he's playing on cart, so timers are a thing
>>23407588
really depends on the format, but minimize shit that would never ever happen with actual competitive players is irritating

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 02:42:03 No.23407693 Report

Quoted By: >>23407729

I thought these threads where the decent ones among the board.Can we go back to being boring? Those were great times.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 02:44:52 No.23407708 Report

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mods are asleep post /cpg/irls

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Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 02:50:45 No.23407729 Report

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>>23407693
/cpg/ ended up trying to post more often to remedy how slow we are, but all that happened was we increased shitposting and decreased earnest discussion. It doesn't help that the thread keeps getting sidetracked by showdown mod/smogon bans/tourney drama and there's been a steep drecrease in interest since ORAS. I think ORAS has been one of the worst competitive metas so far.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 04:07:22 No.23408104 Report

Quoted By: >>23409253

>>23407565
honestly, I thought he was kinda bareable in the begging because he actually had some good stuff like bulky mawile and support talonflame, but now its bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 06:08:23 No.23408619 Report

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So who's been banned from OU this time? I haven't kept up with competitive Pokemon in months

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 06:22:47 No.23408689 Report

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What is the preferred manner for running lapras?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 09:00:48 No.23409229 Report

Quoted By: >>23418143

If Aegislash doesn't get unbanned the next suspect will be Landorus. What's your opinion on that and why is that not tott?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 09:06:47 No.23409253 Report

Quoted By: >>23413739

>>23408104
When Verlisify made all those videos about how every pokemon can be viable when you pass a shitton of evasion boosts to it and how he claimed to be unbeatable if all the bad smogon shills wouldn't just let the timer run out he basically lost all his credibility. He is even considered an idiot by the vgc community, that's why I'm always wondering how his following is so big. Casuals are a big group I guess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 12:12:27 No.23409806 Report

Quoted By: >>23412499

>>23407644
Megagross can't remove rotom-W, who's also one of Talonflame's key counters. It would also mean the only pokemon you have that can switch into WoW is Talonflame who Rotom wrecks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 21:05:44 No.23412436 Report

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woah we almost DIED AGAIN

fuck, is too hard to type !!t and post something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 21:18:36 No.23412499 Report

Quoted By: >>23412560

>>23409806
It 2hkos rotom with zen headbutt.
>>23407644
Add a chomp lure, something like hp ice tornt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 21:28:17 No.23412560 Report

Quoted By: >>23416275

>>23412499
That sounds really strong. So something like HP ice tornT+Megagross+BU Talon?

Can't I just run Ice punch on Megagross instead of HP ice torn? Or wait I probably need EQ. Maybe I can ditch grass knot if Z headbutt 2HKOs but I doubt it does plus I risk a scald burn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 00:07:33 No.23413739 Report

Quoted By: >>23416180

>>23409253
Your probably right about the casual part. Still a bit suprised ogloza collabed with him. Then again alex is cool enough to do ghat type of shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 01:30:00 No.23414253 Report

Quoted By: >>23414270 >>23415549

Why does Espeon's Shadow Ball ohko Mismagius but not it's Psychic? Is STAB a lie?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 01:32:14 No.23414270 Report

Quoted By:

>>23414253
80*2 = 160
90*1.5 = 135

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 05:06:31 No.23415549 Report

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>>23414253
simbly ebon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 05:08:04 No.23415558 Report

Quoted By: >>23416193

>people finally stopped using fucking fletchinder in RU
about time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 08:16:07 No.23416180 Report

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>>23413739
Ogloza caters towards a normalfag audience pretty hard, so it doesn't really surprise me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 08:22:41 No.23416193 Report

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>>23415558
Isn't ru imbalanced as fuck with like Reuniclus running about

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 08:43:42 No.23416275 Report

Quoted By: >>23416348

>>23412560
gk doesn't do shit to washer, it's light as fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 08:50:59 No.23416294 Report

Quoted By: >>23416938

How should I utilize Mega Luke?

I mean, this motherfucker looks cool for cart, and guess who has a cart?

Yeah, he's Lightning and Ebony Dark'ness Dementia Raven Way, please don't.

I was thinking of using Thundurus as the lead of TWaving shit, or Mamoswine for lead-Rocks. Those two are destined to fight, set traps, and die with a bang. I was thinking of Galvantula Webbing because Thunder is cool, but he'll die to a fart without so much as denting the opposition easily.

For Defogging purposes, I was thinking of Scizor or whomever else gets it naturally (In KALSO)

MegaLuke is intended to be the mid-game murderer with a Physical attacks. Mixed and Special ideas are also welcomed.

Any suggestions on what I should change or do?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 09:11:36 No.23416348 Report

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>>23416275
I know that, that's why I'm running Zen headbutt. GK is for quagsire.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 12:39:30 No.23416890 Report

Quoted By: >>23416942

Why is UU even worse than OU?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 12:57:21 No.23416938 Report

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>>23416294
heatran good partner talonflame counter
Mandibuzz aint to bad good synergy (also gets defog)
mammo and thundurus aint bad team options either but if you wanna use defog setting up sticky webs might be a waste use a spinner if you wanna keep your hazards up

mega lucario can run mix and be an amazing wall breaker

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 12:58:35 No.23416942 Report

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hows gatrs usage in UU going atm

>>23416890
ehhh there about on par
RU and NU aint to bad right now

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 15:13:43 No.23417418 Report

Quoted By: >>23417506

Does it annoy anyone else when somebody argues a pokemon is good/bad just because of its rank in the [tier] viability ranking thread?
People need to realize that those rankings are a guideline, not a fucking bible

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 15:34:07 No.23417506 Report

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>>23417418
It doesn't make any sense to say "a pokemon has this rank so it's this viable". In the viability ranking thread itself it has you present arguments for its viability that determines its rank.

It's meaningless to shitpost about rankings in the face of tangible arguments for a mon's inclusion on a team.
>"I chose this since it checks these this and this which my team otherwise struggles with and provides Great type synergy as well"
>PFFT it's fucking C rank fag

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 17:34:38 No.23418143 Report

Quoted By: >>23418282

>>23409229

Because I usually play offense I tend to have have a few checks to it because of its relatively low speed but the more I face it the more I realize that fucker really has a very limited amount of switchins. RP and CM sets can be hell for teams that lack strong priority, I'm almost indifferent right now but I'd be interested to see how the meta looks if they remove the ability to use genie on the suspect ladder.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 18:01:24 No.23418282 Report

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>>23418143
Landorus with an RP set is super hard to stop for offence unless you have significant priority, however the CM set can be exploited because all 3 of Landorus' attacks have an immunity and while 101 is fast it's not THAT fast. At least it's not as bad as RP genesect when it was allowed, especially since everyone who used it ran EB to bluff scarf.

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 21:50:05 No.23419560 Report

Quoted By: >>23421073

How are my fellow /cpg/ memesters today?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2015 02:07:58 No.23421073 Report

Quoted By: >>23423681

>>23419560
>you will never pass 1500 ELO

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2015 15:00:50 No.23423681 Report

Quoted By: >>23424986

>>23421073
>1500
>good
>hard to pass

anon pls

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2015 20:08:31 No.23424986 Report

Quoted By: >>23428127

>>23423681
I lied anon, I can't pass 1400.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2015 06:42:25 No.23428127 Report

Quoted By: >>23430854

>>23424986
just run some kids rmt and you should be fine like lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2015 18:39:41 No.23430662 Report

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Can we not die please?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2015 19:14:33 No.23430854 Report

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>>23428127
What do you think I've been doing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2015 22:18:45 No.23431822 Report

Quoted By: >>23431900

Is froslass at all viable on hyper offence? It outspeeds and OHKOs both lando and chomp as a hazard lead as well as outspeeding, taunting and 2hkoing almost every defogger. It self spinblocks and does decent damage to excadrill, and as far as I can tell the only significant leads it fails against are Azelf and hazard lead Ttar. the only defogger it doesn't beat is mega scizor who is set up bait for BU talonflame. Would it be viable as a lead on a hyper offensive team with no spinner?

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Anonymous Thu 14 May 2015 22:28:49 No.23431881 Report

Quoted By: >>23431905 >>23435714 >>23439170

help me out with my squad guys, I need better hazard options. skarmory or starmie would fit well here I think, but i'm at a loss for how to fit them in. mega lop is too annoying without bro and I need mew to check annoying shit like mixed thundurus and bisharp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2015 22:31:48 No.23431900 Report

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>>23431822
The answer is always to try it and see if like the results

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2015 22:32:04 No.23431905 Report

Quoted By: >>23431942

>>23431881
You need to think more critically about what Altaria is countered by. Weavile isn't doing any work for you here, aside from revenge killing Garchomp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2015 22:33:31 No.23431916 Report

Quoted By: >>23431925

http://strawpoll.me/4360959
http://strawpoll.me/4360959
http://strawpoll.me/4360959
http://strawpoll.me/4360959

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2015 22:34:48 No.23431925 Report

Quoted By: >>23431937

>>23431916
>muh speed
>muh coverage
>muh healing wish
Just run a scarfer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2015 22:36:08 No.23431937 Report

Quoted By:

>>23431925
>all relevant scarf trappers don't outspeed
>all relevant scarfers like Keldeo are extremely easy to take advantage of

???

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2015 22:38:12 No.23431942 Report

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>>23431905
it revenge kills a lot of shit i'd otherwise have a really hard time dealing with. mega gardevoir, kyurem-b, thundurus, tornadus-t, gengar, lando-i and lati@s all get wasted by it where the rest of my team struggles to kill them fast enough. also lures heatran and ferrothorn for altaria, knocks the shed shells off of ferro and skarm if that comes into play as well.

no, weavile is way too important here. unless you have a better alternative most of offense just digs at me too hard if I drop it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2015 23:29:38 No.23432237 Report

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Friendly reminder that /cpg/ memelords are actually snaking their way up to the rebuilt OST final.

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Anonymous Fri 15 May 2015 00:36:50 No.23432644 Report

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>mfw the donphan guy is #1 in OU now

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Anonymous Fri 15 May 2015 07:57:32 No.23434505 Report

Quoted By: >>23434532 >>23450743

>>23407565
Rate for UU?

It's kinda shit and there's a few key things I'm already aware of. As in Crobat being absolutely fucked against Steels, Poisons & Magic Bouncers, but it's still a thorn in a lot of walls' sides. Slurpuff only outpacing Scarfbase95s because fuck Jolly, and yeah,
>Hyper Beam
>competitive
well what the fuck else is M-Mane gonna do to Rotom-H? Plus even though Scrafty looks like dead weight it actually puts in a lot of work with killing all sorts of momentum.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 May 2015 08:12:21 No.23434532 Report

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>>23434505
M-Manectric is banned from UU.

You should run max speed on it anyway.

Scrafty is literally useless in UU.

Crobat set is ass.

You have too many EVs on a bunch of shit, like Slurpuff which has a 252/252/20/4 spread for some reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 May 2015 11:00:45 No.23434860 Report

Quoted By: >>23434862 >>23435094

need help with my team

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/battlespotdoublesvgc2015-232845857

here's a replay of them in battle

Arcanine (M) @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 148 Def / 44 SpA / 4 SpD / 60 Spe
Modest Nature
- Will-O-Wisp
- Morning Sun
- Heat Wave
- Close Combat

Clefairy @ Eviolite
Ability: Friend Guard
EVs: 236 HP / 212 Def / 60 SpD
Bold Nature
- Follow Me
- Cosmic Power
- Moonblast
- Moonlight

Mamoswine @ Leftovers
Ability: Thick Fat
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Icicle Crash
- Ice Shard
- Rock Slide
- Earthquake

Milotic @ Assault Vest
Ability: Competitive
EVs: 252 HP / 212 Def / 36 SpA / 8 Spe
Calm Nature
- Ice Beam
- Icy Wind
- Scald
- Hidden Power [Fire]

Hawlucha @ Red Card
Ability: Unburden
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Stone Edge
- Acrobatics
- Encore
- High Jump Kick

Klefki @ Mental Herb
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 252 HP / 100 Def / 56 SpA / 100 SpD
Calm Nature
- Magnet Rise
- Foul Play
- Swagger
- Thunder Wave

any advice/criticism would be greatly appreciated

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 May 2015 11:01:58 No.23434862 Report

Quoted By:

>>23434860
VGC general is >>23410436

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 May 2015 11:02:40 No.23434864 Report

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sorry

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 May 2015 11:05:56 No.23434874 Report

Quoted By: >>23434885

Why are there no VGC players on /vp/?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 May 2015 11:08:19 No.23434885 Report

Quoted By: >>23435104

>>23434874
they all keep to their own general

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 May 2015 12:44:50 No.23435094 Report

Quoted By: >>23435117

>>23434860
It's like really shitty if you ask me. You are lacking offensive pressure alot, relying too much on like, idk really.
Your Hawlucha set is pretty bad, it doesn't hit hard enough, no spread move lets it barely abuse its enormous speed, etc. Cosmic power on clefable is pretty useless, i also don't feel like redirection as a whole really goes well with your stally kind of team, you don't really make use of clefable it seems, especially since like all of your team is bulky already i don't see a big use for either friend guard or redirection. Klefki is pretty shitty, use thundurus instead since it actually accomplishes stuff. I don't like assvest on milotic since it has access to recover, use that. Ice beam and icy wind is kinda overkill and hp fire hits like nothing ever. Why leftovers on mamoswine? It's like your only source of offense, don't waste its iten slot like that. What on earth does the arcanine spread do and what does close combat even hit? Ttar isn't very common anymore and gets crippled by willo/intimidate anyways.
Opposing thundurus with taunt just completely fucks you since you only got mamoswine for it, which isn't the hardest thing to shut down. You have no mega, what the fuck?! The klefki spread is a mess, why do you even have special attack?

I'd advise starting over tbh, make a team that actually has a focus in winning games and isn't just 4 support mons and 2 sub-par offensive threats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 May 2015 12:48:05 No.23435104 Report

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>>23434885
More like they all keep on nugget bridge because /vp/ is not the most competitive place in the world. Vgc general is a mess

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 May 2015 12:53:47 No.23435117 Report

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>>23435094
Oh some additions: not a single protect, seriously the move is good in vgc, use it on pretty much everything, you scout, you take momentum back, it's more useful than your coverage moves on almost everything. Fake out in general fucks you over, letting your mons get targeted down really quickly, despite having assvest milotic you are incredibly weak to both rain and sun. Nothing on your team takes status well, i can see a breloom/thundurus running over you any day. Most speed control teams just run you over. Idk man, it's really really shitty.

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Anonymous Fri 15 May 2015 13:07:25 No.23435142 Report

Quoted By: >>23435760

>tfw skarmory will never drop to UU
Goddamnit this thing is gonna be standard forever huh? I just wanna use it in UU.

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Anonymous Fri 15 May 2015 13:30:09 No.23435202 Report

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>run mamoswine without life orb
>opponent posts in chat "band mamo is a bad set" after I kill salamence with ice shard
>tfw I kill Swampert with freeze dry
>tfw expert belt

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 May 2015 16:08:59 No.23435692 Report

Quoted By:

R8 H8 masturb8

Mamoswine @ Life Orb
Ability: Thick Fat
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- Earthquake
- Freeze-Dry
- Ice Shard
- Icicle Crash

Crustle @ Custap Berry
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Rock Blast
- X-Scissor
- Stealth Rock
- Spikes

Haxorus @ Choice Band
Ability: Mold Breaker
EVs: 252 Atk / 36 Def / 220 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Dragon Claw
- Poison Jab
- Earthquake
- Outrage

Whimsicott @ Choice Band
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Tailwind
- Leech Seed
- Switcheroo
- U-turn

Lucario @ Life Orb
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Extreme Speed
- Close Combat
- Crunch
- Swords Dance

Rotom-Heat @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
- Overheat
- Volt Switch
- Will-O-Wisp
- Pain Split

>inb4 bandmence memebuild
I am thinking of changing rotom from wisp to Twave.

Maybe switching whimsi for healing wish shaymin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 May 2015 16:14:07 No.23435714 Report

Quoted By: >>23435801

>>23431881

Just gonna give you a possible team rebuilding because I have 3/6th of your team on my own. Keep M-Altaria, Weave, and Zone. Add Balloon Mold Breaker Excadrill with STABs Spin and Rocks, Band Talon with STABs UTurn and Tailwind or Roost, and you can keep Slowbro I guess or go with my choice of Crocune, except it's speed crept. 252 HP, 196 Def Bold. The rest in speed. This spread allows you to outspeed defensive 8 Spd Lando-T, 44 Spd Rotom-W, and vanilla Diancie before mega evolving if it doesn't run protect. They calc it and see that even max speed vanilla Diancie outspeeds normal Crocune so there's an element of suprise. Just my two cents, take it or leave it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 May 2015 16:23:55 No.23435760 Report

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>>23435142
It's shown no signs of dropping the last 4 gens, why do you think it's going to drop now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 May 2015 16:25:47 No.23435766 Report

Quoted By: >>23435770

lopunny ban when

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 May 2015 16:26:49 No.23435770 Report

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>>23435766
Never.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 May 2015 16:31:59 No.23435801 Report

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>>23435714
This is just the type of advice I was looking for, thank you. I like the idea of two bulky wincons that aren't both stopped cold by unaware clefable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 May 2015 18:37:47 No.23436261 Report

Quoted By: >>23446804

>people want Lando-I banned
>Lando-I only became prominent with the reintroduction of aegis who is staying banned
Pffft.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 May 2015 05:02:27 No.23439103 Report

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>whimsicott finally moved up to UU
>can't run SubSD haxorus anymore

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Anonymous Sat 16 May 2015 05:24:03 No.23439170 Report

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>>23431881
>Return

You might want to change that, just in case.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 May 2015 14:40:27 No.23440498 Report

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http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/uu-233158736

I think I played this battle pretty poorly, mamoswine is a huge problem especially since I forgot to add a minus in teambuilder so Haxorus had defaulted to a neutral nature (why I missed the EQ on rotom).

I'm pretty bad at teambuilding but I'm looking to make a hyper offensive team, hence specs Lucario in order to revenge kill cloyster and Mega Sharpedo who are normally giant problems for offence.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 May 2015 23:19:47 No.23442955 Report

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D E A D

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 May 2015 12:37:55 No.23446145 Report

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bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 May 2015 12:44:14 No.23446161 Report

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Can somone give me the most cancerous stall team the the OU metagame has to offer

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 May 2015 16:05:09 No.23446804 Report

Quoted By: >>23446822

>>23436261
>lando became only prominent with aegis
It's like you haven't played ou in over a year

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 May 2015 16:10:06 No.23446822 Report

Quoted By:

>>23446804
Lando-I has always been pretty prominent, but it's true he experienced a massive increase in usage (and strength) when Aegis came back down since the two formed an almost unstoppable offensive core, which is also why the sudden push for suspect has happened.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 May 2015 16:18:16 No.23446856 Report

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???

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 May 2015 19:48:17 No.23447951 Report

Quoted By: >>23448378

so what's a good team for suspect?!?!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 May 2015 20:47:43 No.23448312 Report

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>get banned from room for saying that I like the nostalgia critic

okay y4

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 May 2015 20:57:14 No.23448378 Report

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>>23447951
Abuse the suspect, have a secondary team high on the ladder to counterteam the suspect.

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Anonymous Mon 18 May 2015 01:06:43 No.23449738 Report

Quoted By: >>23449771

what works with shuckle in uu
i would like to use it for sticky web and stealth rock

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 May 2015 01:11:17 No.23449771 Report

Quoted By: >>23449784

>>23449738
You know how Scarfmence is a pretty strong cleaner in UU?

Now use bandmence instead of scarfmence

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 May 2015 01:14:47 No.23449784 Report

Quoted By: >>23449805

>>23449771
i have never played uu
i am used to ou
what are the biggest threats in uu i know mamoswine is one

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 May 2015 01:19:23 No.23449805 Report

Quoted By: >>23449850 >>23449858

>>23449784
Mence, Darm, hydreigon, mienshao, and mamoswine are big offensive threats. Mega Aerodactyl and Sharpedo are probably THE biggest threats to hyper offence, and Maero is actually S rank and pretty good against all teams. Suicune is the only significant bulky offence/defensive threat

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shuckle Mon 18 May 2015 01:29:44 No.23449850 Report

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>>23449805
thank you so much
how does this look so far
what am i weak to

shuckle doesnt have the best hp so should i am not sure what evs are best for it
porygon2 can take a jolly darmanitan life orb superpower and the next one will be -1 and cant knock it out
i put substitute over protect because of sticky web and because protect seems obvious so the opponent might switch to a priority user and the sub could give an advantage but protect might be better i do not know

i have a fighting weakness so i think a good ghost type like mismagius could be a nice addition

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 May 2015 01:31:25 No.23449858 Report

Quoted By: >>23449868 >>23449916

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 18 May 2015 01:32:27 No.23449868 Report

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>>23449858
i forgot to post an image and i also forgot that mismagius is nu i really havent been in uu for a while

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 May 2015 01:40:15 No.23449916 Report

Quoted By: >>23449937 >>23450040

>>23449858
Chesnaught really fucks you up so far. Taunt variants totally shut down shuckle while also laying spikes which you so far have no immunities to, he's one of the few defensive walls Sharpedo has trouble getting around (ice fang will kill with enough prior damage though), and drain punch + leech seed can deal with porygon2 despite it having ice beam if you don't get the right download boost or run trace. Porygon2 also really likes trace since it let's you switch into chandelure reliably. Chandelure is also someone you should consider for your team. She has almost perfect type synergy with sharpedo and energy ball can deal with mega swampert while fire blast takes care of chesnaught. Scarf variants of chandelure can handle lucario if it can get in safely, which is important because when sharpedo gets going only priority and super sturdy walls can really stop it and it resists both ice shard and bullet punch. Lucario has vacuum wave and Espeed so you'll want him gone.

Suicune is a big problem for your team because Sharpedo has trouble breaking him and is open to burns, consider a strong boosting pokemon like haxorus to muscle past him. Haxorus is excellent against bulky teams but struggles against offence because of all the faster dragons.

Spikes are more prominent in UU than OU, so pokemon immune to ground are very important. Defensive Rotom-H is one of the best pivots in the tier but you don't want to run 2 fire type.

Try building a team of 6 and I'll comment then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 May 2015 01:45:32 No.23449937 Report

Quoted By: >>23450040

>>23449916
Oh FUCK forgot to mention feraligatr. Gatr is a huge threat in the tier after getting its HA, not even chesnaught can tank ice fang at +2. Luckily its speed tier isn't outstanding and it's vulnerable to all hazards, so a strong scarfer can totally cockblock him as long as you don't let him do something dumb like get 2 DDs. SD variants sometimes have aqua jet so try and pick a scarfer resistant to water.

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Anonymous Mon 18 May 2015 02:02:06 No.23450040 Report

Quoted By: >>23450068 >>23450125

>>23449916
>>23449937
i have a mental herb on shuckle to prevent taunt and shuckle can toxic chesnaught to wear it down

porygon2 can tank a +1 waterfall from feraligatr, paralyze it, and then use its trace boosted tri attack to 2hko it though i could replace ice beam with thunderbolt but tri attack and thunderbolt are both a 2hko with sheer force as long as stealth rock is up

>+1 252 Atk Feraligatr Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Porygon2: 87-103 (23.2 - 27.5%) -- 72.5% chance to 4HKO
>0 SpA Sheer Force Porygon2 Thunderbolt vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Feraligatr: 204-242 (65.5 - 77.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock

i am very afraid of suicune though is reckless life orb mienshao a good way to handle it, high jump kick 2hkos and i could come in while they are asleep and have only a 1/3 chance to roll scald

i threw three more pokemon onto the team but i dont think the two ghosts are doing anything for me
http://pastebin.com/Q6rQZwaY

thank you again for all of your help

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 May 2015 02:06:58 No.23450068 Report

Quoted By: >>23450098

>>23450040
Nice lack of life orb on gatr

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 May 2015 02:10:28 No.23450098 Report

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>>23450068
i am very sorry the calc was a bit outdated
>+1 252 Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Feraligatr Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Porygon2: 148-175 (39.5 - 46.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
porygon2 can still tank it and since waterfall cant flinch with sheer force it will always be able to get a thunder wave or thunderbolt off and then mienshao can finish it off with fake out if it needs to
the only concern is if it gets to +2 because that is a clean 2hko stealth rock or not so i will have to be extremely careful about that

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 May 2015 02:14:29 No.23450125 Report

Quoted By: >>23450178

>>23450040
2 ghosts, especially 1 carrying eviolite +porygon2 make you total knock off bait. Your only resists are sharpedo, who is 1 frail and 2 your wincon who can't constantly be switching in and out, and mienshao who's also frail and is vulnerable to a ton of other moves knock off users carry like Krookodile's EQ. You have no spikes immunity and only 1 toxic spikes immunity with no way to remove them or to prevent them being set up, and both your ghosts have extremely similar typings that will get you killed by EQs which you have no resist let alone immunity for. You have no real speed on your team, I'd say chandy needs to be scarfed if you keep her, and if either eviolite user loses their eviolite you die to dragons in 2 seconds. That's without going into specific threats you may be vulnerable to like SD Haxorus if sticky web isn't down (speaking of you have not hing to stop defoggers)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 May 2015 02:19:17 No.23450178 Report

Quoted By: >>23450224

>>23450125
thank you so much for the analysis uu is a confusing and scary tier i will try to adjust
i dont think uu has anything to stop defoggers like ou has bisharp and tyranitar what would you suggest
i feel like the two ghosts should be replaced with ground immunities so i think levitate bronzong would work well with gyro ball but since shuckle already has stealth rock i dont know what else would run on it and haxorus has mold breaker anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 May 2015 02:25:57 No.23450224 Report

Quoted By: >>23450482

>>23450178
Haxorus isn't actually that prominent, I only used him as an example since not even Pory can stop him and your team severely lacks speed if sticky web isn't down. Taunt users or just pokemon that can straight KO defoggers are great, I believe life orb nidoking straight up KOs all of them (would have to calc).

You want pokemon that can take advantage of sticky web, so you need pokemon that hit very hard but are a little slow. Are you absolutely set on keeping sharpedo? He's very speedy and more an anti-offence pokemon but isn't all about the raw power sticky web frees you to use.

Also you need checks for offensive threats that are unaffected by sticky web, including aero, mence, and hydra.

I'm struggling a little with what exactly you might want to run. I'd use a powerful wallbreaker who's offensive checks are primarily 1) faster than it (not priority users) and 2) grounded, in order to make the most of sticky web.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 May 2015 03:07:46 No.23450482 Report

Quoted By: >>23450522

>>23450224
thank you you are right i really have no priority or speedy pokemon besides mienshao
i am not dead set on keeping anything except shuckle

>You want pokemon that can take advantage of sticky web, so you need pokemon that hit very hard but are a little slow. Are you absolutely set on keeping sharpedo? He's very speedy and more an anti-offence pokemon but isn't all about the raw power sticky web frees you to use.
what about mega blastoise would that work well under sticky web or is it just too slow

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 May 2015 03:14:25 No.23450522 Report

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>>23450482
Blastoise would be good against offensive teams. Just enough bulk to handle stuff like Aerodactyl's double edge, resistant to most priority, excellent coverage, good power, the only thing is that most scarfers are faster than blastoise without the scarf, so they'll outspeed it even with sticky web up. Stuff like scarf Mienshao's HJK KOs with a bit of prior damage.

Things like banded moxie users, who typically employ scarves to clean up late game but can forego them with web up, provide an excellent amount of power. I know Heracross, Krookodile and Salamence are all big forces in UU. Nidoking with a life orb outspeeds and OHKOs most defoggers while also being a giant problem to play around for the other team if web is up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 May 2015 04:02:16 No.23450743 Report

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>>23434505
Why are you even here? You need to get some experience on the ladder before you come play with the big bad memelords we have here.

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Anonymous Mon 18 May 2015 04:40:53 No.23450977 Report

Quoted By: >>23451021

How does OU ELO hell abode for you gents?

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/oususpecttest-233578286

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 May 2015 04:41:43 No.23450980 Report

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>>23407565
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Anonymous Mon 18 May 2015 04:47:47 No.23451021 Report

Quoted By: >>23451076

>>23450977
>both teams using all OU mons
>few questionable plays
>teams sort of solid aside from the opponent not having a spinner for talonflame's sake
See suspect ladders don't really have ELO hell because you could potentially be playing the normal ladder's top players who are just starting for their reqs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 May 2015 04:58:50 No.23451076 Report

Quoted By:

>>23451021
ya know, i was high when i tried to make that post a thread, and I'm even higher now, forgetting that I wrote "how is this 1000 elo" before.

dont do drugs guys. my brain feels like mush

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 May 2015 15:51:14 No.23452966 Report

Quoted By: >>23453133

Would any of you fine gentlemen like to link me a pastebin for this suspect?
Kyurem-B balance preferred.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 May 2015 16:28:14 No.23453129 Report

Quoted By: >>23453133 >>23454421

its still a wip but watch out for jolly dd eq altaria and cm mega gardevoir

http://hastebin.com/iqilahihov.md

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 May 2015 16:29:14 No.23453133 Report

Quoted By:

>>23453129
for >>23452966

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 May 2015 20:41:27 No.23454421 Report

Quoted By:

>>23453129
>running into specially defensive Togekisses as if they're fucking Lando-T's
what a fun ladder

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 May 2015 00:34:53 No.23455731 Report

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dave said

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 May 2015 02:05:35 No.23456239 Report

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rip benja

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 May 2015 05:16:25 No.23457126 Report

Quoted By: >>23457245

Why the fuck does togekiss get nasty plot?

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Anonymous Tue 19 May 2015 05:49:40 No.23457245 Report

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>>23457126
Manga

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 May 2015 14:11:32 No.23458801 Report

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Froslass (F) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Cursed Body
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Destiny Bond
- Ice Beam
- Spikes
- Taunt

Sharpedo @ Sharpedonite
Ability: Speed Boost
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Crunch
- Ice Fang
- Waterfall
- Substitute

Rotom-Heat @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 212 Def / 44 SpD
Bold Nature
- Volt Switch
- Will-O-Wisp
- Thunder Wave
- Overheat

Lucario @ Life Orb
Ability: Steadfast
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Vacuum Wave
- Aura Sphere
- Flash Cannon
- Nasty Plot

Shaymin @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Tailwind
- Healing Wish
- Seed Flare
- Dazzling Gleam

Krookodile @ Life Orb
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Knock Off
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock
- Superpower

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 May 2015 14:45:15 No.23458924 Report

Quoted By: >>23458936

How good is Electroweb on a Galvantula (Doubles)?

Outside the usual Thunder, Bug Buzz, coverage move (Energy Ball), I'm wondering what a good 4th move is for it?

The double speed drop is pretty nice at first glance and I'm wondering if I missed other options?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 May 2015 14:49:26 No.23458936 Report

Quoted By: >>23458939

>>23458924
no entry hazards are good in doubles and galvantula isn't even good in doubles either

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 May 2015 14:51:00 No.23458939 Report

Quoted By: >>23458942

>>23458936
>no entry hazards are good in doubles
But Electroweb isn't an entry hazard?

>galvantula isn't even good in doubles either
not what I was asking

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 May 2015 14:51:58 No.23458942 Report

Quoted By:

>>23458939
got it mixed with Sticky Web.

idk, just experiment with it and don't click it when Bisharps are still alive

Henry

Henry Wed 20 May 2015 00:53:22 No.23462262 Report

Quoted By: >>23473335

RATE COMMENT SUBSCRIBE
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-OXSEcJmb35LbtExHX__1A

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 13:24:30 No.23465186 Report

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bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 18:50:41 No.23466696 Report

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my dad

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 22:40:14 No.23468002 Report

Quoted By: >>23468282 >>23473539

>only burb counter is rotom with bulky band azu as a check

>see Staraptor+Talonflame offensive core on other team
GG no re and all that

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 23:17:51 No.23468282 Report

Quoted By:

>>23468002
what

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 21 May 2015 04:31:09 No.23470323 Report

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I dunno if this is the right place to put this but there used to be an injection general I can't find anymore. A few months back there was a way to scan QR codes to inject a pokemon into the box 1. Just wondering if this has been fixed through the latest 3DS system updates.

I want to play smash bros and some other games with my friends but if updating my 3DS means I can no longer do this injection I don't want to do it. Haven't been up to date with this stuff for several months so can anyone keep up updated on what the situation is like now? Thanks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2015 14:48:39 No.23473335 Report

Quoted By: >>23473345

>>23462262
what the hell is that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2015 14:49:56 No.23473345 Report

Quoted By:

>>23473335
cpg memes

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2015 15:25:57 No.23473539 Report

Quoted By:

>>23468002
You kinda need to prepare better yo

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 21 May 2015 20:06:25 No.23475475 Report

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is there an answer to this AIDSfest of a core that isn't named mega gardevoir or crocune? assuming clef is unaware+calm mind.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 21 May 2015 20:10:29 No.23475516 Report

Quoted By: >>23475536 >>23475611 >>23480504 >>23495837

Is there any answer to this AIDSfest of a core not named mega gardevoir? assuming clef is unaware+cm.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2015 20:13:31 No.23475536 Report

Quoted By: >>23475634 >>23495837

>>23475516
SubSD haxorus with only dragon claw and poison jab.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2015 20:23:39 No.23475611 Report

Quoted By: >>23495837

>>23475516
kyurem b with iron head is pretty epic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2015 20:26:32 No.23475634 Report

Quoted By: >>23475651

>>23475536
Unless they have Skarmory

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2015 20:28:19 No.23475651 Report

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>>23475634
I was going to say Magnezone, but basically every stall team opts for shed shell.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2015 20:30:30 No.23475670 Report

Quoted By: >>23480504

At what point on 'anything goes' do I stop playing quitters and shitters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2015 21:27:44 No.23476070 Report

Quoted By: >>23476088

Fuck Stone Miss.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2015 21:29:54 No.23476088 Report

Quoted By:

>>23476070
>gen VII
>gamefreak buffs smackdown to 60 bp and introduces a rock type with technician who doesn't get smack down but does get ancient power despite having like 45 Spatk

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 May 2015 14:02:02 No.23480504 Report

Quoted By: >>23480624 >>23495837

>4 suspect tests
get that tc badge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>23475670
literally never, theres like 5 good players near the top but thats it

>>23475516
Mega Gyarados

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 May 2015 14:36:56 No.23480624 Report

Quoted By: >>23480803

>>23480504
>that feelerino when 4 votes but not enough posts for tc
Help, i need quick posts in np threads. What is there to say about landorus?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 May 2015 15:24:51 No.23480803 Report

Quoted By: >>23480833

>>23480624
just a little goy and bandwagon posts according to what you're voting

if you're voting ban just say shit like restricts teambuilding, shits on everything, too good, impossible to switch into

just take its good qualities and exaggerate them :DDDD

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 May 2015 15:30:53 No.23480833 Report

Quoted By:

>>23480803
Don't think i will even vote for lando, i just need like 6 more posts in the thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 May 2015 18:48:28 No.23481747 Report

Quoted By:

Six Klefki is degenerate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 May 2015 19:05:29 No.23481824 Report

Quoted By: >>23486857

Can we try to not start a shitfest here, but how many youtubers are actually good at battling? I know many feel pokeaim, blunder, and that group are good but what about the likes of ShadyPenguinn, Nappy, Haydunn, etc? They all seem to win a fair amount but is that just because they play shit people?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 22 May 2015 20:17:14 No.23482252 Report

Quoted By: >>23482296 >>23482308 >>23486903

how would this uu team fare

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 May 2015 20:23:01 No.23482296 Report

Quoted By:

>>23482252
Put more EVs into SpD for Porygon. Shuckle isn't enough in UU to absorb all of the special attacks, but it will get a lot of them. I'd also switch out Chesnuts for a mixed sweeper. Azelf has pretty good coverage and could support your team pretty well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 May 2015 20:24:21 No.23482308 Report

Quoted By:

>>23482252
Move Nidoking's 4 Atk EVs into HP

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 May 2015 22:27:21 No.23483304 Report

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I've been EV training a tank milotic With
rest
sleep talk
scald
dragon tail
relaxed nature

I gimped my speed in IVs and nature since it's go shit anyway but I'm worried it's gonna leave it vulnerable to grass/electric moves since it wouldn't have priority with dragon tail.

Is my build alright? Or should I just scrap it ans start over

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 May 2015 09:58:51 No.23486857 Report

Quoted By:

>>23481824
>They all seem to win a fair amount but is that just because they play shit people?
That's also due to the fact that they upload mostly their wins. But yeah alot of the battles say Haydunn has aren't highly competitive. There's quite alot good smogonite youtubers that are good (pdc, blunder, boudouche, etc) and also some good vgctubers (cybertron, ogloza, baz anderson come to mind). Generally i'd take poketubers with a grain of salt though since they seek to entertain people more than actually be competitive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 May 2015 10:13:30 No.23486903 Report

Quoted By:

>>23482252
>Nidoking
>Blastoise
My nigga

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 May 2015 14:53:20 No.23487680 Report

Quoted By: >>23492097

get them reqs and vote do not ban (´・ω・`)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 May 2015 15:00:16 No.23487690 Report

Quoted By: >>23487695

I haven't played this since early X/Y, and I didn't care to pick it up for a while since Smogon keeps banning my favourites.
What's the current meta like?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 May 2015 15:02:29 No.23487695 Report

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>>23487690
It's actually settling quite a bit right now, it's almost pretty balanced aside from cancer like Lopunny.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 23 May 2015 16:29:03 No.23487987 Report

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i have this OU team I've been working on for a while. It does decently in low ladder but something's missing. Anyone mind giving it a look-see?

http://pastebin.com/zuV1N8mt

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 May 2015 01:19:06 No.23491058 Report

Quoted By:

(´・ω・`)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 May 2015 04:39:51 No.23492097 Report

Quoted By: >>23492114 >>23493734

>>23487680
gimme a super-gay balance team I can abuse for reqs and sure

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 May 2015 04:47:44 No.23492114 Report

Quoted By: >>23492993

>>23492097
>balance
>not abusing HO featuring taunt M-gyara
Anon pls

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 May 2015 05:25:20 No.23492234 Report

Quoted By:

>breloom
>relevant
kek have fun in BL faget

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 May 2015 10:55:39 No.23492993 Report

Quoted By: >>23493009 >>23493741

>>23492114
>taunt
>not Substitute

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 May 2015 11:07:35 No.23493009 Report

Quoted By: >>23493734

>>23492993
>not liking locking an opponent into setting up and using that opportunity to begin setting up yourself
Anon pls

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 May 2015 15:28:24 No.23493734 Report

Quoted By:

>>23493009
>Locking an opponent into setting up
what the fuck are you on?

>>23492097
>balance
have fun taking 6 gorillion years to get reqs

Just use my offense team (´・ω・`) http://hastebin.com/ifiyofobiv.md

watch out for breloom, gardevoir and scarf victini

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 May 2015 15:30:35 No.23493741 Report

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>>23492993
Sub and taunt are both good but taunt prevents phasing from gay as fuck skarmory and prevents stall team perish song faggotry

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 May 2015 21:53:30 No.23495675 Report

Quoted By: >>23495837

Good partners for Mega Sableye on BS? How good are Slowbro, Clefableor Porygon2?

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Anonymous Sun 24 May 2015 22:09:21 No.23495837 Report

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>>23495675
see
>>23475516

and pack something that deals with the threats mentioned in
>>23475536
>>23475611
>>23480504

ferrothorn or something, I dunno.

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