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Useless

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 20:40:18 No.23412275 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>23412286 >>23412303 >>23412315 >>23412694 >>23413531 >>23413611 >>23416204 >>23417513 >>23419248

Pokémon you love but are absolutely useless in competitive battling. I'll start. Why does such a beautiful Pokémon have to be such a piece of shit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 20:41:45 No.23412286 Report

Quoted By: >>23412294 >>23412349

>>23412275
Articuno has a useful niche in anything goes, because of its mind reader+sheer cold gimmick

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 20:43:26 No.23412294 Report

Quoted By: >>23412312 >>23412330 >>23412349 >>23412491

>>23412286

Yeah but as soon as you see it use Mind Reader, you just switch out. And besides 90% of battlers frown upon OHKO moves, even non-smogonfags.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 20:45:02 No.23412303 Report

Quoted By: >>23415917

>>23412275
Just because you don't know how to use it doesn't mean it's shit. It's great at beating Rain teams in Battle Spot/VGC. I partner it with Hitmontop in VGC as leads and it's pretty great. You wouldn't use it in OU because of the abundance of Stealth Rock.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 20:46:16 No.23412312 Report

Quoted By: >>23412321

>>23412294
I'm sort of a hypocrite when it comes to OHKO moves. I find it hilarious when someone gets nailed by one, but I get salty af when one lands on me. I once had a scarf Haxorus get three in a row on me at the battle spot. Fuckin japs.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 20:46:20 No.23412313 Report

Quoted By: >>23412319 >>23412333

so fluffy :3

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 20:46:33 No.23412315 Report

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>>23412275
Just wait for the inevitable Mega. We all know they're coming for trios anyways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 20:47:54 No.23412319 Report

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>>23412313
Jumpluff's movepool and lack of Attack breaks my heart.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 20:48:24 No.23412321 Report

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>>23412312
Whenever I see a jap in Battle Spot, I just timestall for a couple of turns and then disconnect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 20:50:04 No.23412330 Report

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>>23412294

>caring what anyone thinks

also forcing a switch has its own advantages. you can also predict the switch with another mind reader. mind games.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 20:50:21 No.23412333 Report

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>>23412313
Same boat.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 20:50:39 No.23412335 Report

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>>23412319
At least it can SD + Acrobatics
Infiltrator Sleep Powder off of 110 base speed is cool too

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 20:50:59 No.23412338 Report

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>>23412321
lel

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 20:52:08 No.23412347 Report

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>>23412333
At least GF actually gave it a new fucking attack in response to fans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 20:52:13 No.23412348 Report

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>>23412321
I don't. I don't go to the battle spot often because I know it's an RNG shitfest. If I do go, I made up my mind that I was to accept any bullshit that happens. And for clearing up what I said, I never use OHKO moves but love seeing things like DICKS the Kyogre getting KOs in a row with Sheer Cold

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 20:52:23 No.23412349 Report

Quoted By: >>23412369 >>23416197

>>23412294
>>23412286
Is there a reason Espeon doesn't have Mind Reader when its pokedex entries explicitly state it can predict its opponents' moves?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 20:54:34 No.23412369 Report

Quoted By: >>23412390

>>23412349

Is there a reason why Mind Reader and Foresight are Normal-type instead of Psychic-type, or why Razor Wind is STILL not Flying-type? GF cannot into logic.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 20:56:02 No.23412379 Report

Quoted By: >>23412393 >>23412419 >>23413106 >>23416281

Regigigas is pretty fun with Confuse Ray/Thunder Wave/Substitute/4th slot but its ability seriously limits its viability.

Meganium is pretty good tank and is not useless however it needed good buff. And it got Leaf Guard. Fuck.

Bibarel. Oh boy. Amazing abilities, not a bad typing, absolutely horrible stats.

Raichu is poor as well. Lack of bulk. Lack of a good movepool. Lack of power without Nasty Plot. Lack of good ability in singles.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 20:56:41 No.23412390 Report

Quoted By: >>23412404

>>23412369
Apparently.

Also Espeon can't learn Power Gem

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 20:57:09 No.23412393 Report

Quoted By: >>23412409 >>23412419

>>23412379
>Amazing abilities, not a bad typing, absolutely horrible stats
Who needs base stats when you have Moody?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 20:58:33 No.23412404 Report

Quoted By: >>23416284

>>23412390
Espeon doesn't learn Power Gem? Fuck, I assumed it did because of the gem on its forehead. Funny how they distribute rock moves to nearly everything on "flavor" except to the rock types that would benefit from them

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 20:59:31 No.23412409 Report

Quoted By: >>23412419

>>23412393
Dive/Protect/Substitute is fun with Moody but it ain't showderp, you will get fucked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 21:01:52 No.23412419 Report

Quoted By: >>23412475

>>23412379
>>23412393
>>23412409
It's related somewhat, but have you guys ever seen this? I found it pretty fucking funny

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3uROelepGY

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 21:14:24 No.23412475 Report

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>>23412419
Amazing, I sometimes love watching shit like that. It's like showderp.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 21:17:38 No.23412491 Report

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>>23412294
>Opponent switch out
>Sheer cold hits

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 21:18:28 No.23412496 Report

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>2000 + 15
>pic related STILL can't learn Earth Power
this is nearly on the same level as Flareon not being able to learn Flare Blitz until Gen VI

lenora hax guy

lenora hax guy Mon 11 May 2015 21:20:07 No.23412504 Report

Quoted By: >>23412565 >>23412663

leavanny.

oh dear game freak, why it has so many weaknesses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 21:28:49 No.23412565 Report

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>>23412504
My bro Parasect is with you on that. Funny how it used to be the only thing with spore, so you had to suck up the weaknesses. Now there's no reason to use it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 21:44:20 No.23412663 Report

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>>23412504
Grass/Bug is the gods laughing at you as you fall into despair.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 21:49:41 No.23412694 Report

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>>23412275
>85 speed
>5
>s
>p
>e
>e
>d

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 21:51:33 No.23412711 Report

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God, how embarrassing. Even Moltres is better.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 21:57:03 No.23412764 Report

Quoted By: >>23412774 >>23415848 >>23416227 >>23416287 >>23417185

It's outclassed by at least two other bug/steels

Trick room isn't that great of a strategy either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 21:58:15 No.23412774 Report

Quoted By: >>23413731

>>23412764
Serves the faggot right for what he did to Shelmet.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 21:59:31 No.23412784 Report

Quoted By: >>23412834

For being a physical glass cannon, Luxray is just too slow.

I mean come on GF, you even gave them Sanic spikes!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 22:03:46 No.23412820 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 22:06:36 No.23412834 Report

Quoted By: >>23419381

>>23412784
I made top cut at a VGPC using a Luxray just the other day, and it was the Pokémon that pulled the most weight in my team, shutting down rain teams and getting good kills. I was knocked out of T8, only making 7th, but still.

Luxray @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Intimidate
Level: 50
EVs: 156 HP / 8 Def / 252 SpA / 88 SpD / 4 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 30 Def
- Thunderbolt
- Snarl
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Protect

She had both Tailwind and Trick Room support.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 22:06:40 No.23412835 Report

Quoted By: >>23412928 >>23416838

I hate being the only person who genuinely loves dunsparce

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 22:21:33 No.23412928 Report

Quoted By: >>23412941

>>23412835
You're not alone, man. Dunsparce always destroys in my in-game runs, I just wish it had more of a niche in competitive play. Still doesn't stop me from loving it, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 22:23:58 No.23412941 Report

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>>23412928
it also has that chibi angel thing going on, am I right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 22:45:30 No.23413106 Report

Quoted By: >>23416278

>>23412379
When I was a kid, beavers were one of my favorite animals. I still have my old stuffed beaver that I used to sleep with as a kid.

That being said: Why is it water/normal instead of water/grass? Beavers build dams from pieces of wood, so the grass typing would make perfect sense.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 23:41:22 No.23413531 Report

Quoted By: >>23413766 >>23413825 >>23416278

>>23412275
>tfw you can't even use your bro effectively in-game

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 May 2015 23:51:47 No.23413611 Report

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>>23412275
Look at the pokemon that were able to surpass their 4x Rock weakness, and look at how far they had to go to do that. That's what Articuno needs. At the very least, there is a strong base to build off of given that its a legendary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 00:06:26 No.23413731 Report

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>>23412774
He turned Shelmet into a badass bug-ninja. I don't think there are any hard feelings there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 00:10:03 No.23413766 Report

Quoted By: >>23413825

>>23413531
You can use literally anything in-game

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 00:17:58 No.23413825 Report

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>>23413531
this >>23413766
i use joltik and ivysaur all the time in-game, and they do great
as long as you don't go into battle spot and expect to win, they're just fine for any npc content
when i was young and didnt know about base stats i swore that magmar was worse than magby, and used magby to great effect in the cafeteria

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 06:22:07 No.23415848 Report

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>>23412764
>Trick room isn't that great of a strategy either
No you're just bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 06:42:49 No.23415917 Report

Quoted By: >>23415968 >>23416040

>>23412303

How in the fuck is an Articuno good at checking rain? It's main STABs are all neutral or resisted by four of the main Rain sweepers, while being weak to both of the Swift Swim Water/Rock sweepers. It doesn't resist Water and it's also weak to both of the 4x Fire weak pokemon commonly run on Rain teams: Ferrothorn with Gyro Ball and (M)-Scizor with Bullet Punch.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 06:46:16 No.23415933 Report

Quoted By: >>23416838

Every thread. Honorary mentions go to my niggas Plusle and Minun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 06:58:55 No.23415968 Report

Quoted By: >>23416040

>>23415917
I'm not defending Articuno, as IMO Lapras is better but anon
>freeze-dry

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 07:06:00 No.23415977 Report

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every butterfly-pokemon :3

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 07:28:56 No.23416040 Report

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>>23415917
>>23415968
Yes, Freeze-Dry is the nail on the head. Articuno has the bulk to take Rain-boosted Water attacks and OHKO common Rain mons like Ludicolo and Kingdra and Swampert. Can technically also OHKO Kabutops but that'd have to be played around.

Lapras is good too, but Articuno values its Speed. If HP Fighting were legal on it in VGC, it could even dispatch Bisharp without a problem.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 07:43:01 No.23416080 Report

Quoted By: >>23416611 >>23416838

My bro since gen 2, but fight with my others bros, Ledian and Sunflora for the worst-Poke-ever.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 08:10:33 No.23416161 Report

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>pure ice
>slow
>bad abilities that only work in the most useless weather
>bad movepool

great

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 08:24:05 No.23416197 Report

Quoted By: >>23416321

>>23412349
Pokedex is full of shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 08:27:28 No.23416204 Report

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>>23412275
Remember Gen 1 when it's 125 special defense stat gave it 125 special attack as well?

Good times man, good times.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 08:32:11 No.23416227 Report

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>>23412764
this nigga is a staple on my TR team.
Having access to knock off before move tutors and being a powerhouse with a choice band on its STAB moves makes it a crazy monster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 08:44:25 No.23416278 Report

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>>23413106
would make much more sense if it had sap sipper

>>23413531
farfetch'd is so ridiculously bad, even if it was allowed in little cup it would still be shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 08:45:44 No.23416281 Report

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>>23412379
hidden ability: inner focus
play rough
aqua jet
vaccum wave

there i fixed it guys

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 08:46:44 No.23416284 Report

Quoted By: >>23416591

>>23412404
honestly they just need to make ancientpower good, it's such a stupid move as it is right now

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 08:47:44 No.23416287 Report

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>>23412764
it's actually pretty good but hey whatever

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 08:59:42 No.23416321 Report

Quoted By: >>23416392

>>23416197
Prove it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 09:26:16 No.23416392 Report

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>>23416321
indian elephants man

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 10:36:38 No.23416591 Report

Quoted By: >>23416602

>>23416284
Buff the chance of stat raising by another 10%. Used a specs Tyranitar with that move and it got two boosts off. Swept 5/6 of the opponent's team. +10% would buff it considerably.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 10:42:08 No.23416602 Report

Quoted By: >>23416608

>>23416591
i was thinking more in terms of giving it 75 base power or something like that

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 10:43:28 No.23416608 Report

Quoted By: >>23416610

>>23416602
That works too. I guess a 20% chance to raise all stats would be a tad too much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 10:44:44 No.23416610 Report

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>>23416608
considering the distribution, it would be a ridiculous shitfest. good fun, no doubt, but a bit exaggerated maybe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 10:44:51 No.23416611 Report

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>>23416080
ledian and sunflora are pretty bad. i'd say magcargo is at least usable though. while it has two double weakness...to common attacking types...it does also have 7 resists. and it gets recover. and it has two very useful stab attacking types.

JUS SAIYAN

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 11:33:35 No.23416717 Report

Quoted By: >>23416736 >>23416737 >>23416748 >>23416839 >>23417002

On the left.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 11:40:33 No.23416736 Report

Quoted By: >>23416787

>>23416717
Huge fucking stretch to call a solid UU mon useless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 11:41:02 No.23416737 Report

Quoted By: >>23416787 >>23416836 >>23417002 >>23417149

>>23416717
>Milotic
>useless

You're joking, right?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 11:45:31 No.23416748 Report

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>>23416717
holy fucking autism

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 12:05:32 No.23416787 Report

Quoted By: >>23416798 >>23416839 >>23417002

>>23416736
>>23416737
>solid UU
it's shit in UU. completely outclassed by pretty much every single other UU water mon. currently sits in C rank along with cloyster, espeon and a bunch of RU and NU mons. it could drop to RU and it wouldn't even be that good there.

it's called power creep.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 12:09:34 No.23416798 Report

Quoted By: >>23416803

>>23416787
>what is doubles
>what is the competitive ability in a game full of intimispam

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 12:14:27 No.23416803 Report

Quoted By: >>23416807 >>23416839

>>23416798
milotic is absolute shit with competitive. so it takes a boost from defog/intimidate, who cares? people just send out their blissey or whatever their special wall is and milotic is stuck doing shit. if it switches out it loses the boosts, and next time opponent already knows what ability it has, so he'll be more cautious using defog/intimidate. it's a one time gimmick and never pays off completely.
bisharp is only good in OU because it destroys the lati@s (and formerly aegi).
don't play much doubles tho, but i think even there it isn't that good with the amount of overall better water mons available.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 12:17:10 No.23416807 Report

Quoted By: >>23416816

>>23416803
>blissey
>in doubles

Fucking
What

This is a thread about useless pokemon. Milotic is far from useless and is pretty common in VGC due to Competitive. I didn't say anything about tiers for god's sake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 12:21:44 No.23416816 Report

Quoted By: >>23416836

>>23416807
>"I didn't say anything about tiers"
>replies to post about singles tiers
>expects a non singles tiers' reply
i was obviously talking about singles and its tiers, man, no need to be so fruity and dense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 12:27:25 No.23416834 Report

Quoted By: >>23417479

>she had to disable comments because of butthurt Charizard fanboys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20T-vt1rmdk&t=12m38s
Damn, I really should have saved them, some of those comments were gold

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 12:28:15 No.23416836 Report

Quoted By: >>23416878 >>23417149

>>23416816
You replied to me first. I posted >>23416737 which your dumbass replied to, not knowing anything about doubles. Singles isn't the only battle format you dumbshit.

>but i think even there it isn't that good with the amount of overall better water mons available.

Talking out of your ass when you have no idea what you're saying. Classic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 12:28:43 No.23416838 Report

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>>23412835
>the only person
Nigga, Dunsparce has been my favorite since I first laid eyes on it in Gold.
>>23415933
>>23416080
You're cool.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 12:28:51 No.23416839 Report

Quoted By: >>23416874 >>23416878 >>23417002 >>23417149

>>23416717
>>23416787
>>23416803
> "I have a Milotic in my team and it dies too easily because I'm a fucking retard and don't know how to play. I probably think people who make predicts are cheating somehow and maybe at one point thought that hold items were for wimps. But anyway, yeah. Milotic is shit because I can't make one work because I don't know how to play properly. But I watch Pimpnite, Verlisify (PLISNOTICEMESENPAI) and ShadyPenguinn so I think I know what I'm talking about"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 12:34:14 No.23416874 Report

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>>23416839
Another point in Milotic's favor is that it was a pretty damn solid OU mon in its debut generation. It's a bit of a stretch to call any Pokémon that has ever been viable completely useless even if later generations haven't treated it kindly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 12:35:11 No.23416878 Report

Quoted By: >>23416887 >>23416888 >>23416893

>>23416836
>doesn't specify, doesn't mention a thing
>still expects his autistic ass to have the correct reply
btw just checked the doubles viability rankings, it's shit there too, c+ rank, at the same level as blastoise and ampharos. guess i had a point afterall.

>>23416839
lolwut
i'm talking smogon here brah
milotic is completely outclassed by other water mons. sure it's usable, but why struggle with a shitmon when you can just use a better water mon like suicune and alomomola?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 12:38:57 No.23416887 Report

Quoted By: >>23417002 >>23417108 >>23417149

>>23416878
Rite, rite. Smergern.
Why use Milotic when you can use Alomomola? Why use Alomomola when you can use Suicune? Why make your own team when you can copypasta something you found on the forums cus you're too much of a fucking retarded fag to build your own team.

I bore witness to a Milotic winning an OU tourney with a $100 cash prize a few days ago.
It beat a Mega Crobro with Mirror Coat.
You find me a Suicune or Alomomomomomomomommola that can do that, faggot.

Oh wait, you can't. Because you're too busy copypasting shit you found on google.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 12:39:11 No.23416888 Report

Quoted By: >>23416891 >>23416983 >>23417108 >>23417149

>>23416878
>Alomomola
>better than Milotic

Holy shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 12:40:10 No.23416891 Report

Quoted By: >>23417108 >>23417149

>>23416888
He's using a fucking old rod. Misty's weird ass lures are better bait than this kid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 12:41:17 No.23416893 Report

Quoted By: >>23416993 >>23417108 >>23417120 >>23417149

>>23416878
>talking about shit he doesn't know about
>expects to be right

Look you dense faggot, Milotic is one of the most dangerous VGC mons out there because of it shutting down intimidate users, speed control, and burning shit with scald. Smogon's doubles and VGC's doubles are two completely different things. It's like comparing 6v6 on cart to 6v6 OU. DOESN'T WORK.

Just shut the fuck up. You're embarrassing yourself. So what, Milotic is bad on a simulator. There's tons of different formats out there and it has varying use with them. Quit being a colossal faggot.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 12:41:47 No.23416896 Report

Quoted By: >>23416902 >>23416904 >>23417002 >>23417149

Mitotic is a pretty solid mon tbh
i use this set in OU, and aside from being occasionally toxic stalled, it's relatively successful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 12:43:44 No.23416902 Report

Quoted By: >>23416907 >>23416908

>>23416896
>Dragon Pulse

...for what purpose? Isn't ice beam more useful?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 12:44:53 No.23416904 Report

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>>23416896
scald would actually be a better choice over surf but it's the same move set i use in game.
also i find that dragon pulse doesn't really offer as much coverage as i expected, so ice beam could potentially work better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 12:46:01 No.23416907 Report

Quoted By: >>23417149

>>23416902
A little more coverage. Give's it a way to hit water types for neutral rather than being forced out of forced to fish for burns.
I'd run Ice Beam in OU cus of Lando and Chomp, but I think Dpulse makes more sense for UU, assuming you got ice coverage elsewhere in the team.
UU has the most bulky watertypes I think.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 12:46:33 No.23416908 Report

Quoted By: >>23416911

>>23416902
yeah overall i guess it would be, but i has helped me take out a couple of kingdras in the past

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 12:48:45 No.23416911 Report

Quoted By: >>23416919

>>23416908
Hasn't Critdra dropped to RU? How's that tier doing anyway? I expected it to be raped because that nigger is mean as fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 12:51:54 No.23416919 Report

Quoted By: >>23416926 >>23417490

>>23416911
Crtidra got booted to BL2 almost immediately.

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 12:54:10 No.23416926 Report

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>>23416919
Hot damn

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 13:01:17 No.23416951 Report

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It hurts every time

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 13:10:01 No.23416983 Report

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>>23416888
Maybe not design-wise, but it is better competitively.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 13:15:29 No.23416993 Report

Quoted By: >>23417005

>>23416893
Holy shit could you be any more mad over a kids game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 13:18:11 No.23416999 Report

Quoted By:

why mightyena,, just why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 13:18:37 No.23417002 Report

Quoted By:

>>23416717
>>23416737
>>23416787
>>23416839
>>23416887
>>23416896
Milotic is fucking shit in OU and anybody that uses it is literally free wins right at team preview.

>B-but muh MIRROR COAT gimmick
Anybody competent will use Milotic as setup bait and laugh when it reveals Mirror Coat too early and gets OHKOd by +2 something the next turn

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 13:18:49 No.23417005 Report

Quoted By: >>23417108 >>23417149

>>23416993
Surprisingly yes.
I have once gotten angry enough (or rather an autistic fit of rage) that I was unable to type and was having a seizure in my chair

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 13:26:36 No.23417039 Report

Quoted By: >>23417050 >>23417053 >>23417060 >>23417117

I used my milotic with burn orb just to trigger the scale ability after first turn

I am that bad?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 13:29:30 No.23417050 Report

Quoted By:

>>23417039
>not using wallace's pwt set

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 13:29:57 No.23417053 Report

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>>23417039
You don't want that. The extra 50% defense might seem nice, but it's not worth 1/8 of your health every turn. If you really want the MS boost, you can use the Comafag approved RestTalk set

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 13:33:42 No.23417060 Report

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>>23417039
It's absolutely terrible. Rest/Scald/Sleep Talk/Filler is the one set you should be using if you like Marvel Scale that much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 13:48:22 No.23417108 Report

Quoted By:

back from lunch guise

>>23416888
it's 1000x better competitively speaking, yes. nice trips btw

>>23416887
>>23416893
>>23416891
>>23417005
lol u mad
ur bro is shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 13:50:11 No.23417117 Report

Quoted By:

>>23417039

Burn is bad on Milotic

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 13:50:57 No.23417120 Report

Quoted By:

>>23416893
But he is right. Milotic is shit, competitively speaking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 13:58:46 No.23417149 Report

Quoted By: >>23417218

>>23416737
>>23416836
>>23416839
>>23416887
>>23416888
>>23416891
>>23416893
>>23416896
>>23417005
Holy mother of autism.

>>23416907
>"UU has the most bulky water types"
>tries to use an outclassed water type anyway
>uses fucking DPulse for coverage against foe water types
This is pure gold.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 14:08:29 No.23417185 Report

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>>23412764
>best bug in doubles, only second to Scizor
>one of the best status moves in doubles "isn't that great
Why are you talking about things you know nothing about?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 14:15:32 No.23417218 Report

Quoted By: >>23417336

>>23417149
>how do we fix Milotic guies???

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 14:47:55 No.23417336 Report

Quoted By:

>>23417218
Water/fairy mega

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 15:04:18 No.23417386 Report

Quoted By: >>23417389 >>23417491

Sometimes i still use ti in battle spot, just because I like it so much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 15:05:44 No.23417389 Report

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>>23417386
Just so you know, it was banned from PU, so it's officially not a lost cause.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 15:25:33 No.23417479 Report

Quoted By: >>23417492

>>23416834
>Tamishi Hiroka
Eh, I can't watch her vids for some reason. I think it's the voice, and her tone maybe.
What's this about Charizard? Did she say it ain't the best thing since sliced bread?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 15:29:23 No.23417490 Report

Quoted By: >>23417496

>>23416919
BL2?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 15:30:09 No.23417491 Report

Quoted By:

>>23417386
>Not using the dream waifu set
It takes so many OU teams by surprise

Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy

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Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy Tue 12 May 2015 15:30:36 No.23417492 Report

Quoted By: >>23417502

>>23417479
She put it as #1 on her Top 10 most overrated pokemon list. Some of her reasons are shaky, but it is quite overhyped.
And well, you know YouTube...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 15:32:08 No.23417496 Report

Quoted By:

>>23417490
banlist of RU
meaning it can only be used from UU up

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 15:33:15 No.23417502 Report

Quoted By: >>23417519

>>23417492
What were the reasons? Double weakness to rock/genwunners being little shits about it?
And it's pretty understandable to put it rather high. I like it, but some people love it a little too much

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 15:35:59 No.23417513 Report

Quoted By: >>23417526 >>23417889 >>23417922

>>23412275
Because it gets brutally stripped of its actually DAMN GOOD NICHE and then people wonder why it sucks. How about not allowing Ho-oh to use Sacred Fire and Regenerator? I tell you it wouldn't even cut UU if that was the case.

And yes, Mind Reader+Sheer Cold is GOOD. Either a 100% OHKO or anything without Sturdy or a guaranteed phaze with 30% chance of OHKO on top of that (and 30% isn't low at all considering Scald's burn rate).
Let Articuno be played to its full potential and then come back saying it sucks. I dare you.

Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy

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Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy Tue 12 May 2015 15:38:01 No.23417519 Report

Quoted By: >>23417600

>>23417502
It's short.
Its card in the base set isn't particularly rare or powerful.
Meh stats.
Surreptitious Stalagmite.
She also said 'stop sucking so hard', ha

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 15:38:37 No.23417526 Report

Quoted By:

>>23417513
eh. i can just switch out as many times as i want

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 15:56:28 No.23417600 Report

Quoted By: >>23417922

>>23417519
>short
Really? Most of these make sense, but really? Why do people get upset/angry over its height? I mean, isn't it listed in the dex entry?
Stealth Rock does destroy that shit though

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 16:42:26 No.23417889 Report

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>>23417513
Don't fool yourself, it would suck ass even with Sheer Cold.

Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy

Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy Tue 12 May 2015 16:46:17 No.23417922 Report

Quoted By:

>>23417600
It's more that we envisioned it to be so much bigger and stronger than it really is (anime sizes are pretty good), but the same can be said about a lot of pokemon heights, so I don't think she was making an amazing point there.

>>23417513
I think it has better things to do than spam Sheer Cold, anon.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 19:38:39 No.23418813 Report

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I still use them though.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 20:00:36 No.23418942 Report

Quoted By: >>23419064

>All of these Pokemon that are banned from PU
>People complaining that they're worthless
>Your bro has a crappy niche and isn't even viable in FU because of Gogoat

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 20:25:28 No.23419064 Report

Quoted By: >>23419132

>>23418942
relicanth is so cool man
rock head smash fucking rules
aqua jet fucking when man???

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 20:33:39 No.23419132 Report

Quoted By: >>23419189

>>23419064
>rock head smash fucking rules
Tyrantrum can do it better
Aggron can do it better

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 20:44:28 No.23419189 Report

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>>23419132
yo
why you gotta be such a dick man?
based fish is real cool

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 20:58:21 No.23419248 Report

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>>23412275

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 21:19:01 No.23419381 Report

Quoted By: >>23419398

>>23412834
And I won one with HP Bug Blaziken. Doesn't mean it should be used ever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2015 21:22:39 No.23419398 Report

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>>23419381
what

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