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Anonymous Wed 13 May 2015 11:42:27 No.23423021 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>23423079 >>23423125 >>23423239 >>23424211 >>23426204

>most popular pokemon in higher level OU play
>most popular pokemon in higher level VGC play, even beating out fucking mega kangaskhan
What went wrong?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2015 11:44:14 No.23423024 Report

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It's strong and people want to win, despite it being an ugly piece of shit that should be removed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2015 11:45:25 No.23423029 Report

Quoted By: >>23423034

GameFreak made too many strong physical attackers that need checking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2015 11:45:58 No.23423031 Report

Quoted By: >>23423042

Gen 5 a shit.......A SHIT!!!!!!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2015 11:46:57 No.23423034 Report

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>>23423029
Privilege pokemon as some call them

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2015 11:50:17 No.23423042 Report

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>>23423031
Nice meme.

Seriously though, it's just an OP piece of shit that fits in well in the current meta.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2015 11:51:48 No.23423045 Report

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inb4 what is ice beam/ice shard

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2015 11:58:39 No.23423079 Report

Quoted By: >>23423116 >>23425987 >>23426030

>>23423021
god damnit it just makes you want to grab it by the tail and anger fuck the shit out of it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2015 12:08:41 No.23423116 Report

Quoted By: >>23425987 >>23426030

>>23423079
Yeah, facing it so much has made me really want to fuck it for some reason.
Too bad there is no good porn of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2015 12:12:19 No.23423125 Report

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>>23423021
What I want the most is for this this to get an OP move just to be banned, really.

Such an awful design, and even the incarnated form is incredibly ugly. Dammit, GF. You can make cute and cool stuff good too. See Scizor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2015 12:14:59 No.23423134 Report

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>Huge attack stat
>Huge movepool
>Good typing
>Decent bulk
>Intimidate for even better bulk and give it one of the best abilities in doubles
The only thing that can really switch in on Lando is another Lando

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2015 12:15:05 No.23423135 Report

Quoted By: >>23423147

Reminderthat there is no reason why Deoxys should be banned in VGC anymore with their banning policies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2015 12:20:44 No.23423147 Report

Quoted By: >>23423187

>>23423135
Couldn't you say the same thing for normal Kyurem?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2015 12:35:38 No.23423187 Report

Quoted By: >>23423205

>>23423147
Kyurem has BST way above 600, which is where the line seems to be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2015 12:42:07 No.23423205 Report

Quoted By: >>23423213

>>23423187
eh they still allow various megas well above that range though

you can use Salamencite in VGC

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2015 12:43:17 No.23423212 Report

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>bulky
>intimidate+U-Turn+Scarf
>only 4x weakness is Ice

It's like chansey for Special Attackers, at least Ice Punch has some distribuition.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2015 12:43:52 No.23423213 Report

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>>23423205
megas are different since they can't run an item.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2015 12:45:40 No.23423216 Report

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am I the only one who thinks this mon looks so Naruto

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2015 12:51:09 No.23423239 Report

Quoted By: >>23423258 >>23423265 >>23423278

>>23423021
The fact that there's no fast special attacking ice types is what keeps it up.
The only check i know for it is ScarfStarmie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2015 12:56:48 No.23423258 Report

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>>23423239
>only check is scarf starmie

what the fuck am I reading?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2015 12:59:10 No.23423265 Report

Quoted By: >>23426240

>>23423239
That's not really true. Scarf Kyurem-B, Scarf Keldeo, and Scarf Lati@s are a thing as well, but a Lando player typically scouts during the game. It's more about having something that can take any hit from a Lando rather than having something that one-shots it. In that regard, bulky mons and Fighting mons usually bode well against it. I run Sub Offensive Chesnaught to exploit it, as it breaks Lando-Heatran-Ferro cores exceptionally well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2015 13:03:05 No.23423278 Report

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>>23423239
>tfw your special snowflake set is not special anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2015 13:20:54 No.23423330 Report

Quoted By: >>23426244

Decent defenses buffed by intimidate or a ground immunity, strong attack. Only weakness it fears is ice, which is generally a shit typing for any mon to have and is very rarely run off STAB bar the occasional weavile, kyurem (which uses its weaker special attack) or obama.

In OU play - easy switch into ground attacks if running levitate; cheap choice scarf U-turn damage or a kill on a weakened opponent and attack drop with intimidate.

In VGC - outside sand rush excadrill, it has the fastest rockslide of any viable mons in the game, a move that lies pretty high on the OP move list in doubles given its decent coverage and (the main reason) its flinch chance (IMO flinch chance should be removed when used as a spread move; same with burns from spread heatwave and maybe secondary effects on spread moves in general but that's a discussion for another day). The power it gets from rockslide ain't half bad either.

If they're going to ban stuff like mew and meloetta, VGC should ban all mons that you can't catch more than once in a game (and breed, i.e. snorlax is allowed by lando/heatran etc aren't) as it would stop shit like the genies running riot and might let people use stuff they actually like.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2015 16:58:35 No.23424211 Report

Quoted By: >>23426061 >>23426166

>>23423021
It's because GF is shit at game design.

>le we didn't expect people to use aegislash's high special attack face

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2015 22:58:48 No.23425987 Report

Quoted By: >>23426030

>>23423079
>>23423116
>tfw fapped 4 times to the idea of violently raping landorus last night and had the best orgasms I've had in a while
help

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 13 May 2015 23:07:29 No.23426030 Report

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>>23423079
>>23423116
>>23425987
>Iit doesn't change expression and keeps looking at you as if you're doing less damage than a Wurmple's tackle

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2015 23:12:55 No.23426061 Report

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>>23424211

who are you quoting?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2015 23:25:13 No.23426166 Report

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>>23424211
>they gave it a big physical movepool and a tiny special movepool
It's a pretty reasonable expectation for it to mostly be physicial or at least mixed.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 13 May 2015 23:31:01 No.23426204 Report

Quoted By: >>23426248

>>23423021
>most popular pokemon in higher level OU play

Move bitch, get out the way

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2015 23:31:07 No.23426205 Report

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>kyogre used sheer cold
>landorus-T fainted!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2015 23:31:24 No.23426210 Report

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>being this new

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2015 23:35:11 No.23426240 Report

Quoted By: >>23430970

>>23423265
What the fuck does Chesnaught do to Lando?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 13 May 2015 23:37:02 No.23426244 Report

Quoted By: >>23426255

>>23423330
>as it would stop shit like the genies running riot and might let people use stuff they actually like.

>M-Kanga the meta
>but now with the best defense against M-Kanga gone

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2015 23:37:47 No.23426248 Report

Quoted By: >>23426281 >>23426283 >>23428071

>>23426204
http://www.smogon.com/stats/2015-04/ou-1695.txt

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2015 23:38:49 No.23426255 Report

Quoted By: >>23426295 >>23427990

>>23426244
>implying mega mom was a problem in VGC 2014
there weren't even any in the top 8 of worlds, and there are more counters now

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2015 23:42:16 No.23426281 Report

Quoted By: >>23428002 >>23428010

>>23426248
>using 1695 scrubs

http://www.smogon.com/stats/2015-04/ou-1825.txt

Garchomp and Bisharp are more popular at the top of the ladder now. Lando-T doesn't even break 20% anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2015 23:42:28 No.23426283 Report

Quoted By: >>23428002 >>23428010

>>23426248
>posting a lower ranking because you know you're wrong

Okay.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2015 23:44:15 No.23426295 Report

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>>23426255
Because everyone dedicated like 2 slots to countering it. If you think Mega Mom isn't a problem then you clearly have no clue about how to play VGC.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2015 05:57:38 No.23427990 Report

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>>23426255
Dude, mega mom was a huge ass mistake in the game. It didnt get top cut at worlds because everyone, literally everyone brought at least one or two very hard checks on their teams, like lucario, alot of intimidate, aegislash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2015 06:00:00 No.23428002 Report

Quoted By: >>23428010

>>23426281
>>23426283
>not using the usage stats that determine tier shifts
Okay.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2015 06:02:07 No.23428010 Report

Quoted By: >>23428046 >>23428071

>>23426281
>>23426283
>>23428002
Few people are above 1825 on the ladder anyways so it's not all that representative.
Smogon doubles has huge problems with that, their usage stats are fucked because not many people play the ladder.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2015 06:12:19 No.23428046 Report

Quoted By: >>23428071

>>23428010
There's only one statistic where Lando is the most used, though, it's an outlier no matter how you look at it without reaching heavily. It's always high in usage but it's only top at a specific level, and that level isn't even the highest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2015 06:19:43 No.23428071 Report

Quoted By: >>23428073

>>23428010
>>23428046
1695 are the standard tier stats. Everything else is just to see who's using what at the very top and elo hell.
this >>23426248 anon is correct in pointing out that Lando-t is the most used. 1825 is also a small paddle of players anyway so there is less diversity among pokemon and movepools.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2015 06:20:44 No.23428073 Report

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>>23428071
>paddle
*puddle

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2015 07:39:31 No.23428236 Report

Quoted By: >>23430960 >>23431225

Uber when?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2015 19:38:32 No.23430960 Report

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>>23428236
it's just very good, it isn't broken or "unhealthy" for the metagame

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2015 19:40:02 No.23430970 Report

Quoted By: >>23431029

>>23426240
Wall it and set Spikes in its face you idiot

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2015 19:53:17 No.23431029 Report

Quoted By: >>23431041

>>23430970

>Seriously implying Spikes is good anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2015 19:55:58 No.23431041 Report

Quoted By: >>23431214 >>23431282 >>23431637

>>23431029
you're retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2015 20:31:29 No.23431214 Report

Quoted By: >>23431268

>>23431041
>Hazards in dubs
>He's retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2015 20:33:19 No.23431225 Report

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>>23428236
It's not even S-Rank. It is just popular.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2015 20:46:23 No.23431268 Report

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>>23431214
Nobody's talking about dubs, m8

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2015 20:49:59 No.23431282 Report

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>>23431041

No, really, who uses them aside from idiots who don't know how to Stealth Rock? They get rid of fixed health, yes, but 12.5% isn't enough. Setting up all 3 layers is fucking annoying, considering you're already dead.

Sticky Web is better as a hazard due to practicality, but scarce distribution. Combining SR/SW would make for perfection, but that's also impractical.

This is why SR is considered better. All you need is one layer.

(No one good uses Toxic Spikes).

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2015 21:46:38 No.23431637 Report

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>>23431041

ok

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2015 22:29:39 No.23431885 Report

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>people seriously implying spikes are bad
>being inferior to rocks is the same as being flat out bad
Just run both.

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