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Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 05:49:37 No.23463843 View View Reply Original Report

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Some people would call it dumbed down

Some people would call it casualized.

But I fucking loved how X/Y made the overworld so much less tedious. There are practically no cave sections, no huge long water sections (ending the hoenn/sinnoh debate) there is very little need for HMs, victory road wasn't a tedious end game grind.

Can we all agree gen 6 is the best for that alone?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 05:50:09 No.23463845 Report

Quoted By: >>23463859

>>23463843
Fuck off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 05:51:00 No.23463847 Report

Quoted By: >>23465379 >>23465968

gen6 is the obvious winner if the sole category is playability. it's story/difficulty/pokemon where it was very lacking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 05:51:32 No.23463851 Report

Quoted By: >>23463865 >>23463894

The only "casualization" I don't like is how your team ends up being retardedly over leveled. But I didn't mind the region itself.

I just wish the entire game were like the gap between the 1st and 2nd gym. It actually felt like an adventure for that segment for the game but then you can just rush through every other gym

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 05:51:54 No.23463852 Report

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>>23463843
Kalos is definitely the best region.
But everything else about XY is lacking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 05:52:50 No.23463859 Report

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>>23463845

You're so fucking cute, I love it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 05:53:07 No.23463863 Report

Quoted By: >>23465076

>>23463843
I would only make victory road longer. It was a joke.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 05:53:18 No.23463864 Report

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Honestly, It's a long overdue Improvement.
It made me like pokemon all over again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 05:53:53 No.23463865 Report

Quoted By: >>23464144

>>23463851
>I don't like is how your team ends up being retardedly over leveled
turn off exp share, you will be 20 levels underleveled for the E4. it's glorious

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 05:55:21 No.23463871 Report

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sadly, those are the only things it's good for

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 05:59:09 No.23463889 Report

Quoted By: >>23465982

Wow, I thought /vp/ hated XY's overworld.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 06:01:34 No.23463894 Report

Quoted By: >>23463902

>>23463851
>the gap between the 1st and 2nd gym

Oh man i was so excited, it took me like 4 hours(more or less) just to get to the second gym and i thought the rest of the game would be equally as big

It's like GF planned to make the game that long but they had to rush it at the end to make it to the deadline

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 06:03:51 No.23463902 Report

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>>23463894
I wonder if they'll try again for XY2, since they'll have much more time.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 06:39:03 No.23464015 Report

Quoted By: >>23464382 >>23466010

Okay, hold the fuck up.

X/Y added the absolute most tedious fucking overworld sections ever.

Riding Rhyhorn and Mamoswine should be cool as fuck, but instead it's slowed down to an absolute crawl. You can't use your own and they only let you use these 2 all game. They have almost no build up or interest to them and feel lazily tacked on.

Absolutely the WORST addition to the overworld ever. It's also one of the only additions to the overworld, so I can't really think of it as the best.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 06:43:33 No.23464041 Report

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>>23463843
I genuinely loved the 'tedious' parts in the game. It made the games feel like an adventure, and XY didn't feel like an adventure at all. I liked Sinnoh's mountainous areas a lot because of it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 07:01:08 No.23464113 Report

Quoted By: >>23465031

I didn't like gen 6 because everything felt like it was made for the main story. Almost all locations hold nothing special after going through them once. I'm not complaining about the lack of post game but there was nothing significant about any of the locations that made me feel like coming back to it.

Along with all the handholding, linearity, and the shit story, XY fails for me.

Though the pokemon selection and graphics were really nice.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 07:09:06 No.23464133 Report

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this thread is bait, right? nobody can actually be this casual

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 07:16:57 No.23464144 Report

Quoted By: >>23464156

>>23463865
I played a nuzlocke without exp share on my first try. No dead until badge 8 and I was still 5 level higher than Diantha when I reached the E4. Didn't do any extra leveling either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 07:22:44 No.23464153 Report

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>>23463843
I 100% agree with you, OP.

GF royally fucked it up with ORAS afterwards

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 07:24:03 No.23464156 Report

Quoted By: >>23464170

>>23464144
I strongly doubt that you got to level 73 without any grinding.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 07:25:13 No.23464157 Report

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>There are practically no cave sections, no huge long water sections (ending the hoenn/sinnoh debate) there is very little need for HMs, victory road wasn't a tedious end game grind.
So like BW, except more HM use actually.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 07:31:08 No.23464170 Report

Quoted By: >>23464175

>>23464156
I only kept 5 pokemons, and my best one (Greninja) was level 70 when I arrived at the elite 4. The only "griding" i did was never run away from a fight and facing all the trainers on my way. Which is litterally nothing compared to what gen 1 and 2 and even 3 asked you to do.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 07:34:44 No.23464175 Report

Quoted By: >>23464189 >>23464202 >>23466708

>>23464170
I did the same thing. My highest level pokemon, an Aegislash, was only level 55 when I reached Diantha.
You are lying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 07:40:42 No.23464189 Report

Quoted By: >>23464206 >>23464210

>>23464175

Must have missed some trainers or met less fight than me then.

This being said, my greninja was almost the only pokemon I played toward the end tho. Must've helped.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 07:42:33 No.23464202 Report

Quoted By: >>23464210 >>23464212

>>23464175
Bet you didn't play with it in Amie and get that 20% EXP increase nigga.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 07:43:57 No.23464206 Report

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>>23464189
>This being said, my greninja was almost the only pokemon I played toward the end tho.
That's probably it. If you focus on using one pokemon for a while that pokemon will usually end up over-leveled.
What was the rest of your team's levels like?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 07:44:29 No.23464209 Report

Quoted By: >>23464245

>>23463843
My issue with X/Y and OR/AS is that making the character sprite larger has made the environments (to me) feel smaller. Everything feels cozier, but the camera is closer and the angle less severe maybe and it all just feels less.....grand. Old Sapphire always gave me this sense of secrecy and forbidden exploration that AS never gave me. still fun though.

Main problem with X/Y was that retarded story. Please oh please go back to the Legendaries not mattering to the "story". R/B/G/S were awesome because of that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 07:44:35 No.23464210 Report

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>>23464189
>>23464202

Oh yeah, I did that too. at the time I didn't know it gave such a big XP ammount. I wouldn't have done so if I did. which might explain the ridiculous level I got towards the end.

maybe I'll retry it without using it someday.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 07:44:48 No.23464211 Report

Quoted By: >>23464267

>>23463843
>no cave sections, no water sections, little need for HMs
>good
Is this a bait?

Kalos is by far the worst region in terms of exploration. What I mean is what is the fucking purpose to you design all those nice waterfalls and ponds along the routes only to make them unavaible?
Mfw completing all the HM and going back to the earlier routes only to find out that there are no secret places anywhere.

literally Nothing To Explore the Game

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 07:44:58 No.23464212 Report

Quoted By: >>23464215

>>23464202
no, but if you do that you might as well use the exp share.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 07:46:05 No.23464215 Report

Quoted By: >>23464227 >>23464228

>>23464212
>20% increase in EXP
>Comparable to x600% EXP spread to your party
fucking what

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 07:48:41 No.23464227 Report

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>>23464215
you're activating easy mode either way

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 07:48:45 No.23464228 Report

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>>23464215

to be fair, the Ami stuff adds tons of other stuff that makes exp share ridiculous.

> can survive with 1 hp
> can get rid of ailments
> can land crits more easily

I love the poke ami stuff, but those rewards are ridiculous... almost as ridiculous as giving a lat@s in the middle of the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 07:55:10 No.23464245 Report

Quoted By: >>23464247

>>23464209
Are you dumb? The legendaries are barely a thing in XY's plot. It's all "muh energy" and "muh power", no one actually gives a shit about the legendaries. Oh and by the way nothing is worse than GS's story.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 07:56:19 No.23464247 Report

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>>23464245
Pretty much, the legendaries are irrelevant beyond being used as a power source.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 08:01:45 No.23464267 Report

Quoted By: >>23465037

>>23464211

Kalos could have used more optional/secret areas, but they don't need HMs to do it. That's just a result of the game being lazy and barren.

If they keep the streamlined overworld design philosophy and manage to get off their lazy asses to make some secret areas for Z/gen 7, it will be my perfect game

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 08:54:31 No.23464382 Report

Quoted By:

>>23464015
And don't forget those annoying encounters you need to use repel for whilst riding.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 09:09:33 No.23464401 Report

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>>23463843
I didn't like it.
I like to explore in my games, and there honestly wasn't much to explore.

I don't want the region to be a literal walk in the park.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 12:34:23 No.23465031 Report

Quoted By: >>23465100

>>23464113
That's because you're growing up thoigh.
Back in the day it was fun to talk around towns imagining you had shit to do therr, but these days places like Aquacorde have no value because they don't have a day care or a move tutor. Most cities are like that throughout the games.
>Laverre
>Snowbelle
>Aquacorde
>Anistar
Are cool places that stand out but are useless once you've passed through. Come on now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 12:38:18 No.23465037 Report

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>>23464267
It would be cool if you could chose between mountain Kalos and coastal Kalos. Plus it's doable since it just means 2 different sets of code for trainers, wild pokemon and some plot text.

Couriway has NPCs and signs giving the most basic advice so that's one area thaf wouldn't need to be changed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 12:44:23 No.23465052 Report

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>>23463843
XY is only good for that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 12:50:07 No.23465076 Report

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>>23463863
Yeah, I mean I'm not sure if I'm okay with easy access after completing a level in that small of a dungeon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 12:59:24 No.23465100 Report

Quoted By: >>23465108 >>23465126 >>23466029

>>23465031

>That's because you're growing up thoigh.

I really hate when people say this, because it's not true.

Gen 1 had the power plant, Seafoam Islands, the extra part of Victory Road where you get Moltres, tons of shops and buildings to explore in the fourth gym down.

Gen 2 had Whirlpool Islands, various caves that weren't part of the story, and Mt. Silver.

Gen 3 had the desert, the abandoned ship, New Mauville, Shoal Cave, and several routes that weren't part of the story.

Gen 4 I'm not quite sure exactly what there was but I know the world was huge and varied and beautiful and but X/Y to shame.

Gen 5...well, honestly I don't like gen 5 much, so I don't know.

Gen 6 just has...almost nothing, once you've beaten the story.

And all that stuff, that's just off the top of my head.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 13:01:34 No.23465108 Report

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>>23465100
>Gen 4 I'm not quite sure exactly what there was

Did gen 4 even happen? Did anyone actually play any gen 4 games?

I have faint memories of getting it, playing it for a bit and nothing else.

Did Nintendo wipe our memories of the game, what the fuck happened?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 13:02:44 No.23465114 Report

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>>23463843
I agree. Most of the routes provide optional areas for items, trainers etc, and people mistake it for routes being too short and easy.
Kalos as a region is pretty, has a great pokemon distribution, and despite people moaning about the riding thing, XY is a tester for the next game so stfu. OP pic was a unique occurrence in XY but ORAS used different angles more and it paid off. They'll do the same in Z or whatever. Have faith my brothers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 13:05:53 No.23465126 Report

Quoted By: >>23465366

>>23465100
>Gen 4 beautiful and varied

Please tell me you're talking about HGSS
>Neon green Grass
>Forgettable and basic rehash-tier cities
>Basic caves that didn't compare to Hoenn's
>Empty snowy areas
>Annoying swamp
>Everything is brown or grey
Sinnoh was absolutely disgusting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 13:06:13 No.23465130 Report

Quoted By: >>23465133 >>23465259

>>23463843
I hate Gen 6 Stupid Kallos Region.
Hoenn is better '-'

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 13:06:55 No.23465133 Report

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>>23465130
>'-'

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 13:50:45 No.23465259 Report

Quoted By:

>>23465130
>'-'

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 14:12:56 No.23465358 Report

Quoted By:

>>23463843
I agree.
ORAS was shit tho.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 14:13:44 No.23465366 Report

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>>23463843
>There are practically no cave sections

Caves can be fun, but it depends on the layout and design.

>no huge long water sections (ending the hoenn/sinnoh debate)

The problem with the water routes was that there was little pokémon variety and nothing of interest (mostly just rocks and some beaches) on them. While I'm okay with having few water routes if it fits the region, I don't think they should necessarily be dropped, but rather improved.

>there is very little need for HMs

I don't like the concept of HMs, so that's at least one thing.

>Can we all agree

No

>gen 6 is the best for that alone?

Certainly not. Gen 6 has many other flaws that seriously detracts it. Kalos is ok enough (the sections where you ride were fucking tedious as pointed out earlier in the thread), but I liked Sinnoh better.

>>23465126
The only cave worth anything in Hoenn is Meteor Falls, which I'll admit is pretty nice. Everything else is forgettable. I wouldn't say Mt. Coronet is forgettable. Hoenn isn't so bad on land, but the many interchangeable water routes absolutely kill it. Funny how you mention empty snow areas when the same can be said for Hoenn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 14:14:39 No.23465375 Report

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>people said it would be dumbed down and casualized, but I for one like that it was dumbed down and casualized

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 14:15:45 No.23465379 Report

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>>23463847
The pokemon were awesome Greninja, Slurpuff, Gogoat, Heliolisk, Hawlucha, Clauncher, Trevenant, and the list goes on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 14:26:18 No.23465427 Report

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4chan. A website of constant disagreeance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 16:35:52 No.23465968 Report

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>>23463847
To be fair, the story was still better than the usual trash we get for Pokemon, barring Black and White.
Not by much but it was still better and had more of a moral in it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 16:39:02 No.23465982 Report

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>>23463889
This isn't /vp/ anymore. Almost every post you see now belongs to some underage casual.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 16:43:38 No.23466010 Report

Quoted By: >>23466608

>>23464015
>X/Y added the absolute most tedious fucking overworld sections ever.
That would be Diamond, Pearl and Platinum.
Riding Rhyhorn and Mamoswine will never be more tedious than the swamps and snow mainly because they only slowed you to just above walking speed while the swamps and snow dropped you considerably below it taking several seconds to cross a tile in some areas.

I'm beginning to think that you people have never played pokemon in your life and are just trying to fit into /vp/'s "culture".

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 16:45:47 No.23466029 Report

Quoted By: >>23466129

>>23465100
>because it's not true.
And how many times did you return once you finished up with your business there?
It's the same with every game but you've lost that childhood whimsy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 17:06:35 No.23466129 Report

Quoted By: >>23468717

>>23466029

I have played through the first four gens hundreds of times. LITERALLY hundreds of times. I still play through them pretty regularly.

I haven't been able to muster the enthusiasm to play through gen 5 or gen 6 more than twice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 18:33:35 No.23466608 Report

Quoted By: >>23466688

>>23466010
Snow and swamps are at least interesting to traverse. Snowy environments also lend themselves to the game. I'd take walking through snow over Mamoswine, you tinfoil wearing jackass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 18:48:47 No.23466688 Report

Quoted By: >>23467039

>>23466608
>Snow and swamps are at least interesting to traverse.
The snow was a complete hindrance to the player, no wild encounters happened unless there was grass in which case the gimmick of the snow wouldn't be there.
The marsh was just grass that slowed you down and you would occasionally get stuck in it forcing you to rapidly rotate the D-pad to get out.

> Snowy environments also lend themselves to the game.
I agree but Generation 4's take on it was the worst way to do it.

It was by far the worst overworld gimmick to date in pokemon games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 18:52:58 No.23466708 Report

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>>23464175
Platinum confirmed for best pacing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 May 2015 19:52:47 No.23467039 Report

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>>23466688

>no wild encounters happened unless there was grass

Would you really want wild encounters every 3-5 steps in the snow routes?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2015 00:15:33 No.23468717 Report

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>>23466129
This.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2015 02:07:34 No.23469478 Report

Quoted By: >>23470569

>>23463843
I love the XY overworld. I have claustrophobia, so I was greatly relieved that there weren't many caves. I especially appreciated coming into daylight every now and then on Victory Road.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2015 05:21:38 No.23470569 Report

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>>23469478
>getting triggered by games that're very enclosed and dark and designed to be spooky
fine
>getting triggered by fucking pokemon with bright brown caves with happy music and rainbow colored creatures dancing around in them
shit nigger what are you doing

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2015 16:18:18 No.23473896 Report

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People like OP are what Gen 6 is made for

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2015 18:20:53 No.23474694 Report

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>>23463843
Yeah I too like how there is practically no game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2015 18:23:13 No.23474706 Report

Quoted By: >>23474717

>B/W came out
It's shit!
>B2/W2 came out
It's shit! I love B/W, they were better!
>X/Y came out
It's shit! I love B2/W2!
>OR/AS came out
It's shit! I love X/Y!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 May 2015 18:25:41 No.23474717 Report

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>>23474706
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