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Anonymous Tue 02 Jun 2015 13:21:57 No.23551195 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>23551225 >>23551395 >>23551581

What checks or counters Mega Manectric in XY? Preferrably mons that fit on an offensive team. (no ORAS mons, please.)

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Anonymous Tue 02 Jun 2015 13:35:01 No.23551225 Report

Quoted By: >>23551251

>>23551195
http://www.smogon.com/dex/xy/pokemon/manectric/battlespotsingles/
>Ground-types
>Special Walls
>Mega Charizard X
>Tyranitar
>Porygon2

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Anonymous Tue 02 Jun 2015 13:43:42 No.23551251 Report

Quoted By: >>23551260 >>23551305

>>23551225
OU, not battle spot. It has HP ice and can generally volt out of everything else and rack up hazards damage. Best I thought of was Swampert but it's way too passive for my team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Jun 2015 13:47:15 No.23551260 Report

Quoted By: >>23551274

>>23551251
>Smogon rules
>XY
They don't even have a ladder on showdown for it and XY battling on cart is basically dead outside of BS

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Anonymous Tue 02 Jun 2015 13:52:02 No.23551274 Report

Quoted By: >>23551396

>>23551260
It's for a tourney.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Jun 2015 13:58:35 No.23551300 Report

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Lanturn completely walls the regular sets but it's not exactly an offensive mon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Jun 2015 13:59:48 No.23551305 Report

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>>23551251
Hippowdon can easily take two hits from M-Manectric and is immune to irritating Volt Switch.
Tyranitar and M-Charizard X completely wall M-Manectric and can setup in front of it. You would have to predict Volt Switch though.

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Anonymous Tue 02 Jun 2015 14:14:08 No.23551371 Report

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Rotom Heat is pretty fun to go against it actually
>resists everything Manectric can run
>bulky offense, can run choice scarf if you
>wonderful typing for most other things too
>can run volt turn against the voltturner
Overheat is also a pretty cool guy

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Anonymous Tue 02 Jun 2015 14:16:21 No.23551386 Report

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Heatran, Hippowdon, Tyranitar, Latias, Conkeldurr, Kyurem-B and ZardX

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Anonymous Tue 02 Jun 2015 14:17:08 No.23551395 Report

Quoted By: >>23551413

>>23551195

Camerupt, immune to volt switching, resists overheat/flamethrowers, doesn't care about intimidates, neutral to hp ice

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Anonymous Tue 02 Jun 2015 14:17:19 No.23551396 Report

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>>23551274
Give us more info about the tourney? Are you expecting to see Meganectric? Why no ORAS? What else do you have in your team?

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Anonymous Tue 02 Jun 2015 14:20:09 No.23551413 Report

Quoted By: >>23551442

>>23551395
You could use any Water/Ground type for that then and have better bulk while having an overall more useful Pokemon with actual recovery.

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Anonymous Tue 02 Jun 2015 14:25:27 No.23551442 Report

Quoted By: >>23551465

>>23551413

Quagsire is a bro, but he's not exactly offensive, which was a requirement and he doesn't like intimidates very much, Swampert was mentioned already, and yeah dragon dance Whiscash could be counted as offensive, but it's got 30 less on it's attacks than Camerupt and doesn't particularly like intimidates and needs a turn to set up

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Anonymous Tue 02 Jun 2015 14:31:44 No.23551465 Report

Quoted By: >>23551482

>>23551442
Quagsire can curse+unaware tank pretty hard. It's not like Camerupt is really sweeping anything, especially without trick room support.

Hell, Camerupt likes running mixed if you're running the trick room offensive set anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Jun 2015 14:39:39 No.23551482 Report

Quoted By: >>23551550

>>23551465

Yeah, curse unaware *tank* He wants an offensive mon not a defensive tank, Generally an offensive mon is either immediate damage or one turn and sweep potential. Camerupt, especially mega has immediate damage on two good types

There is a reason it's not OU, it's rather niche and has very exploitable weaknesses, but it does technically fit the conditions

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Anonymous Tue 02 Jun 2015 14:56:00 No.23551550 Report

Quoted By: >>23551613

>>23551482
Tanks are literally walls with an offensive capability. It doesn't have to be hyper offense to be offensive.

The whole thing about Bulky Offense in early XY being a bunch of tanks is that it's still offense.

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Anonymous Tue 02 Jun 2015 15:04:02 No.23551581 Report

Quoted By: >>23551601

>>23551195
Sash Dugtrio checks it, but only nets a guaranteed kill if not intimidated. Specs Sylveon is offensive and counters it. Specs Hyper Voice is an OHKO, Specs Moonblast min roll is 97.1% (in case you can't use ORAS-accessible moves). Electivire can come in on a predict with Motor Drive, and try to kill with EQ.

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Anonymous Tue 02 Jun 2015 15:11:02 No.23551601 Report

Quoted By: >>23551730

>>23551581
>using Electivire
>ever

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Jun 2015 15:14:13 No.23551613 Report

Quoted By: >>23551638

>>23551550

It still needs more than one boost to be considered offensive unless you are saccing bulk

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Anonymous Tue 02 Jun 2015 15:20:57 No.23551638 Report

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>>23551613

I take that back, quagsire is bulkier than I ever remembered, you can forgo some bulk for some attack and be fine with it

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Anonymous Tue 02 Jun 2015 15:46:07 No.23551730 Report

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>>23551601
Yes, when it gets the job done.

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