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/heg/ - Hacking & Essentials General - No Handholding Edition

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 20:08:26 No.23580062 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>23580255 >>23581922 >>23582205 >>23586718 >>23603730

List of notable ROM Hacks: http://pastebin.com/ua7u6gZz
Getting started on your own hack: http://pastebin.com/fjGZfMzP

Essentials:
Essentials Wiki: http://pokemonessentials.wikia.com/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Essentials_Wiki
RMXP Tilesets: http://www.mediafire.com/download/sd99pug37y4v4se/Ziddy%27s+DS+Style+Tilesets+RMXP+.rar

Sites for sharing games:
http://www.pokecommunity.com/
http://reliccastle.com/forums/

IRC channel: #/vp/romhack @ irc.synirc.net
Webclient: http://webirc.synirc.net/?channels=/vp/romhack

Topic of the Thread: What's your opinion on people who beg for everything?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 20:10:57 No.23580075 Report

Quoted By: >>23580115

Just so you know, if you ask for help and I'm on I'll help you.

Fuck assholes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 20:11:30 No.23580082 Report

Quoted By: >>23580092 >>23580093 >>23580100 >>23580144

Beggars can't be choosers.

In a sort of Funny coincidence, Does anyone have a DL for Blaze Black and Volt White laying around somewhere?

Ruby

Ruby Sat 06 Jun 2015 20:12:46 No.23580092 Report

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>>23580082
There should be a link to it somewhere, but they're usually on pretty shady sites. If you get the patch from somewhere like PokeCommunity, it comes with the tools necessary in order to patch it onto Black/White.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 20:12:49 No.23580093 Report

Quoted By: >>23580113

>Topic of the Thread: What's your opinion on people who beg for everything?

They are a burden. There's people who can't do shit and will ask for people to basically make the game for them. Asking for certain things is one (i.e. that anon who needed/probably still needs help setting up a new encounter type) but making 20 posts just posting your progress and how you fuck up your map cause you opened it in Paint is different.

>>23580082
Yes I believe there is one in the Nuzlocke general, I got it from there. If cant find itll upload mine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 20:13:48 No.23580100 Report

Quoted By: >>23580144

>>23580082
http://a.uguu.se/vpepqn.zip

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 20:15:12 No.23580113 Report

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>>23580093
I still have that anon's fix. I'm pretty sure he just missed a step.

I still await his offered HGSS tileset.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 20:15:42 No.23580115 Report

Quoted By: >>23580138

>>23580075
Same. I'll assist people

With the Topic of the Thread: It depends. Are they genuinely taking the advice and improving? Plus, what is the quality of the advice? Is there even any advice or is it just insults, snide remarks, "Eh I don't like it", etc.?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 20:18:35 No.23580138 Report

Quoted By: >>23580242

>>23580115
I didn't like circle's edge, but my advice was helping his map out. It was shaping up.

The item stuff was a bit much, it's why I walked away for a bit to force him to do it himself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 20:19:07 No.23580144 Report

Quoted By: >>23580385

>>23580082 here, I was retarded and failed to add the two to the end.

>>23580100 , You're 110% based though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 20:20:19 No.23580156 Report

Quoted By: >>23580242 >>23580248 >>23580255 >>23581993

What do you think of getting rid of HMs and replacing them with items or smth?

Also, what about having a semi non-linear region? There's a fangame, Pokemon Island or smth, that offered a teleport station to fast travel to different environments and catch different types of pokemon before trying to beat the "leaders" (never got that far to be honest) and continue unlocking new pokemon areas.

Would you like that? Would you like a region where you can explore anything? I'm pretty sure you can simply run a parallel process to check for the Player's top levelled pokemon and flip a switch to increase the Trainers' pokemon levels as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 20:35:26 No.23580242 Report

Quoted By: >>23580265

>>23580156

I'm making HMs/Field TMs in a lot of areas need to only be used once if they are shit - E.G. Cut will permanently destroy vines and trees in Ilex, Rock Smash will permanently destroy rocks in Dark Cave, and there will be spots on added lower floors of Dark Cave that, once the rock is destroyed, will flood the room with enough light to make Flash unneeded - All it would be used for is to help find those rocks

That said, items are another way to deal with it

>>23580138

The edge was pretty bad, but it doesn't help that some things people say are too edgy actually happen in Pokemon manga and even games - Even ignoring side games like Colosseum and PMD, the main games have shit like Ghetsis saying all but kill, for example. A simple, "Hey, don't use swears, and look at the official games more before writing descriptions, we aren't going to help you further with that" would have done

Instead we got people outright mocking Circle by using their name and saying things like REEEEE and shit like that

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 20:36:49 No.23580248 Report

Quoted By:

>>23580156
I just prefer making the HM moves decent.

semi nonlinear region would be cool. A branching three way path after gym two? The gym leaders power alters on who you beat first. So does the strength of the evil team/whatever you're just for the game.

Cities A, B, C with Gyms of the same name. A and B have antagonist attacks.

If you do C first, A & B are harder and the antagonist attack is slightly farther along. Maybe partially successful?

Likewise, if you do A first Gym B and C are harder and antagonist attack B changes.

It'd be a lot of switches and you'd need a flowchart to make sure you got it right but it would be awesome.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 20:37:54 No.23580255 Report

Quoted By: >>23580275

>>23580062
>What's your opinion of people who beg for everything?
They're terrible. Most of them don't seem to have even read through RPGMaker's documentation OR the huge number of unofficial guides. Every question I've seen in these threads is one that has an answer elsewhere but nobody is willing to actually search for it or do it themselves (I'm looking at you, gen 6 sprite beggar).

>>23580156
If you have an idea, try it out. There's no need to ask for approval on your own project and there are no consequences for failure. That's the best part about making your own games; just do what feels right to you.

Take advantage of your creativity and make it work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 20:41:34 No.23580265 Report

Quoted By: >>23580295 >>23580310

>>23580242
I worry slightly about Koga's "edge" in my game.

He's capable like his manga self, i.e. he's able to do a little fighting and actually a Ninja. No long speeches or anything like blood for the blood god, he doesn't kill any humans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 20:43:25 No.23580275 Report

Quoted By:

>>23580255
>there are no consequences for failure.

This can't be said enough. You don't have a deadline, unless self imposed, and you don't have a bank/investor to answer to.

Just make your game and experiment. If you do something well, people who bitch will like it and pretend they wouldn't have bitched.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 20:47:00 No.23580295 Report

Quoted By: >>23580304

>>23580265
You should probably also remember to ignore most of what people here say about edge. There's really nothing edgy about pokemon going by 4chan's definition of edgy.

Even Ghetsis trying to kill the player in BW2 or Cyrus trying to become a god in DPPt doesn't qualify as edge. It's all just typical shonen anime storytelling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 20:48:22 No.23580304 Report

Quoted By:

>>23580295
Yeah, it's why I've ignore the nagging voice for now.

Waiting for my testers to get there and I'll see.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 20:49:28 No.23580310 Report

Quoted By: >>23580351 >>23580491

>>23580265
Honestly, one could probably get away with even mass murder if they do it well. With PMD, Darkrai basically successfully causes the apocalypse, only to have it reveresed due to time travel. Your Koga is probably fine

Come to think about it, it's less that the games don't have any dark points, but more that in the end, the hopeful atmosphere is restored. The games never really leave any ifs - The closest is Ghetsis and Cyrus, but Ghetsis has basically snapped at the end of BW2 and is apparently capable of no more evil, while Cyrus is more... Pitiful in Platinum at the end rather than worrying. Basically, good always triumphs, evil never wins, and things turn out for the best. Even works for the side games - Cipher is shut down, the Underground starts getting nice, in PMD you are brought back from being made non existent because your partner is good and as such deserves their reward, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 20:54:50 No.23580351 Report

Quoted By:

>>23580310
>Honestly, one could probably get away with even mass murder if they do it well
"Everybody in Saturday Town went missing after Team Nexus showed up. I tried going back but they chased me away."

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 21:00:22 No.23580385 Report

Quoted By:

>>23580144
2, if one needs it http://a.uguu.se/mxhojy.rar

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 21:09:49 No.23580440 Report

Quoted By: >>23580554

The guy with the Primal Groudon plot here. One person said it was bad conceptually, but I never got told what was exactly wrong with how I did it. Was my explanation just piss poor? Is the very core concept of Progress vs Tradition bad? Was it all just badly linked together according to my description (if that, I was fairly aware of that, I'm still in early stages for that and plan to clean up the rough edges for each part)?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 21:18:52 No.23580491 Report

Quoted By: >>23580597 >>23580641

>>23580310
>The games never really leave any ifs
This is actually one of the reasons I hated XY's story so much. We never find out what happened to Lysandre - is he dead? Is he alive under the pile of rocks that was the lair in Geosenge Town? Is he alive somewhere else? Is he still a shareholder for his company? Everything anyone says about him can be taken in so many ambiguous ways it really brings the storyline to an anticlimactic end. The same thing can be said somewhat for BW1, but they at least followed up with a true sequel (though it's still shitty that Hilda/Hilbert were nowhere to be seen despite N coming back).

>Basically, good always triumphs, evil never wins, and things turn out for the best.
Basically this. Pokemon has always had really idealistic endings, so probably achieving the same thing while having legitimately good writing helps to avoid the cringeworthyness of other games out there like Reborn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 21:32:01 No.23580554 Report

Quoted By: >>23580744

>>23580440
The plot sounds bland, as does the villain team. The time travel segments are cliche and the Celebi making vines in Ilex thing sounds like it was almost ripped from Pokemon 4Ever. The segment about the Day Care being harassed is out of place with the rest of what was listed and there was no follow-up.

I get that the underlying theme is "Progress vs Tradition" but the execution reads as ham-fisted. Right now it's just a story about stopping a Team Neo Magma from destroying old things simply because "old is bad so old things should be destroyed".

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 21:36:22 No.23580577 Report

Quoted By: >>23580651

>only default FRLG tileset has charsets of objects and NPCs to go with it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 21:39:45 No.23580597 Report

Quoted By:

>>23580491
>Hilda and Hilbert were supposed to appear in the PWT but were removed
Why GF

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 21:48:46 No.23580641 Report

Quoted By: >>23580655

>>23580491
>We never find out what happened to Lysandre - is he dead?
2016.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 21:50:29 No.23580651 Report

Quoted By: >>23580657

>>23580577
work bitch, you have to do it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 21:51:17 No.23580655 Report

Quoted By:

>>23580641
No, he's alive. And immortal. And buried underneath the rubble of his base.

Where he'll never be found.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 21:52:25 No.23580657 Report

Quoted By: >>23580671 >>23580717

>>23580651
I don't even know how to get started.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 21:56:02 No.23580671 Report

Quoted By: >>23580701

>>23580657
ah

essentials?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 22:02:48 No.23580701 Report

Quoted By: >>23580732

>>23580671
I have essentials. That's not the problem.

The problem is that people are making awesome tilesets but not the requisite charsets.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 22:07:04 No.23580717 Report

Quoted By: >>23580720

>>23580657
The tilset basics.

This is a 256 wide tileset temple. It's divided into 32x32 squares, the size of a tile in RPG Maker XP. You place the assists on the tiles so that they work on the map. Make sure the bottom lines up and stuff. Look at the base tilesets for how they place things.

http://cnickc.deviantart.com/art/HGSS-Gym-138002791

This is a typical asset you'll find. You'll note it's tiny, the fuck?

You'd be right, GBA/DS tileart you find will typically be built for 16x16 tiles. Get paint.net and resize to 200% with nearest neighber on.

Place it on the template so it fits. You may have to cut it in half. Use it in game. Too high? You fucked up and have to lower it. Just right? You got gud. MIND DOORS. IF YOUR DOOR IS IN THE MIDDLE OF A TILE HOW THE FUCK DO YOU WALK IN?

Also, that artist is part of a group. http://tilespriters.deviantart.com/

You'll find lots of good shit there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 22:08:46 No.23580720 Report

Quoted By: >>23580752 >>23580759

>>23580717
YOU DUMB NIGGER THE TILESETS ARE NOT THE PROBLEM.

THE PROBLEM IS THAT THERE'S NO CHARSETS TO GO WITH THE TILESETS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 22:09:54 No.23580732 Report

Quoted By:

>>23580701
They use private shit for that. All the good shit is private.

http://www.spriters-resource.com/ds/P.html

Pick your Pokemon game, use the base charsets for how to format.

If you're lazy you're gonna have to dig through forums like this for premade scraps. http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=344548

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 22:11:11 No.23580744 Report

Quoted By:

>>23580554
>The plot sounds bland, as does the villain team

That could be just because I suck at summarizing. Noted though

>The time travel segments are cliche and the Celebi making vines in Ilex thing sounds like it was almost ripped from Pokemon 4Ever

Celebi's dex entries pretty much place it as a time travelling Shaymin in some reguards. As for cliche, I don't see anything inherently wrong with cliche - Can't use virtually any plot devices without a cliche being invoked somewhere

>The segment about the Day Care being harassed is out of place with the rest of what was listed and there was no follow-up.

I'll try to either tie it in better or relegate it to a side thing, like several of the side plots

>Right now it's just a story about stopping a Team Neo Magma from destroying old things simply because "old is bad so old things should be destroyed".

Again, probably my bad summarizing skills. I'll make sure to pay extra attention to their reasoning from Ecruteak on though (All the villain teams in the main games at any rate don't get their reasoning really explained until you are at least heading to the third or fourth gym anyways)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 22:12:02 No.23580752 Report

Quoted By: >>23580794

>>23580720
Well, I had a post helping you with that too, but fuck you too. Not everyone use auto-refresh

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 22:13:30 No.23580759 Report

Quoted By: >>23580794

>>23580720
And good luck getting any help now, asshole

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 22:20:57 No.23580794 Report

Quoted By: >>23580809

>>23580752
>>23580759
OK, that wasn't cool of me, I've had a long day and I just flew off the handle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 22:23:37 No.23580809 Report

Quoted By: >>23580821

>>23580794
>come back wife, I only hit you that one time!

Nah, I'm not a bitch. Take some anger management courses, you need them more then you need your game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 22:25:58 No.23580821 Report

Quoted By: >>23580855

>>23580809
Hey, I know, let's start another argument and totally derail the thread! That totally worked out last time!

Or you know, we could just pretend I didn't lose my cool, you could help me, and then we never bring this up again.

But nah, derailing the thread in a firestorm of rage and profanity is totally the best way to go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 22:31:32 No.23580843 Report

Quoted By:

>people getting butthurt because someone on 4chan was mean to them

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 22:32:48 No.23580849 Report

Quoted By: >>23580870 >>23580917

I'm so frustrated with this tileset. Nevermind the face that shadows will never, ever agree on a light source, but apparently even a window pointing any direction besides up is too much to ask.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 22:33:35 No.23580855 Report

Quoted By: >>23580895

>>23580821
After a long, productive day of adding stuff to my game this is what I'll be doing instead of helping you; playing shitty custom nations in EU4.

This is after I spent time helping circle today too. I prefer working with edge then you. ;)

to not be a complete shitpost
http://www.spriters-resource.com

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 22:35:57 No.23580870 Report

Quoted By: >>23581010

>>23580849
Are you implying the easiest part of editing a tileset (changing the shadow dropped) is hard?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 22:39:52 No.23580895 Report

Quoted By:

>>23580855
I already checked the Spriter's Resource. They don't have what I'm looking for.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 22:44:13 No.23580917 Report

Quoted By:

>>23580849
It's less than ideal yes. I like You can remove the shadows, but that even worse I think.

I want a sideways facing TV myself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 23:00:37 No.23581010 Report

Quoted By:

>>23580870
Not so much hard as it is a realization that the hours I've put in thus far aren't even scratching the surface. And it's just the starting room for crying out loud. I think most taking their first steps into this frontier would feel the same way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 23:22:13 No.23581136 Report

Quoted By: >>23581153

Quick question: how bad would it be to use resources from something like Pokémon Reborn, or Sage or one of the other Essentials projects?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 23:24:53 No.23581153 Report

Quoted By: >>23581187

>>23581136
I personally don't care, as long as you say where it came from.

But you will never be able to post it on the "mainstream" sites. They'll catch it and remove it eventually.

Reborn is going to be open to modding when finished, so if you think you can sell your idea to them you should ask and go for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 23:28:49 No.23581187 Report

Quoted By: >>23581270

>>23581153
Well I wasn't going to use that much. Just some door sprites.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2015 23:35:35 No.23581270 Report

Quoted By:

>>23581187
If some eagle-eyed asshole spots it they'll make you remove it or stop hosting it.

If you only will post it here it doesn't matter. Elsewhere? Try asking.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 01:35:46 No.23581922 Report

Quoted By:

>>23580062

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 01:48:38 No.23581993 Report

Quoted By:

>>23580156
What I wanted to do was keep the HMs, make them TMs or something I guess, and make all Pokemon have certain "innate" abilities that would be used in lieu of HM moves that can be accessed when you select them like the HMs were. So instead of having stuff like Cut, Surf and Fly in would be Chop, Ferry and Soar.

From what I've heard though this is actually tough to pull off so I think I'm just gonna make them items.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 02:26:03 No.23582205 Report

Quoted By: >>23589173 >>23590910

>>23580062
Hey ya'll; same anon with the bridge saving glitch from a few days ago. Still no solution to it. I have an idea of how I could fix it (making bridges automatically always be turned on) but I'm not sure where in the scripts to start.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 02:30:05 No.23582236 Report

Quoted By: >>23582518

i like hand-holding

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 03:22:41 No.23582518 Report

Quoted By:

>>23582236

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 06:17:10 No.23583246 Report

Quoted By: >>23583270 >>23583787 >>23585158

>still working on expanding the TM list for Crystal
>heal at a Pokémon Center while testing stuff
>the game crashes
>almost ready to throw out my efforts on the TM expansion and start over from before I messed with that part of the code
>realize it's just a save file issue since I changed the game's wram

Man, I got worried.

It's alarming how difficult expanding this is. I've only tried increasing the amount of TMs by two so far (so there'd be 52 TMs and 7 HMs); I initially had the issue where every TM was two numbers below what it should be (leading to TM00 and TMP5, or TM255), then I fixed that since it was a silly little mistake of me only taking out part of a section of code.

Then after that HM06 and HM07 wouldn't appear and the HMs were two spaces forward (so TM51 and TM52 were HM01 and HM02), then I thought I fixed that because the disassembly, for some reason, listed something regarding the TMHM pocket as a static value of 57 instead of it manually adding the number of TMs to the number of HMs like other functions. But, this only partially fixed it.

Now the TMs and HMs appear properly when you pick them up or store them in the PC, but the problem is still there in the bag itself; to make matters stranger, if you pick up HM06 or HM07, it appears to not go in the bag, but instead replaces the cancel function (if you click cancel it acts as if you selected the missing HM).

It's getting to be a headache because I know whatever's causing this issue is likely another static value, but I have no clue WHERE it could be because the coding for the pack is all over the place.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 06:23:34 No.23583270 Report

Quoted By:

>>23583246
Welcome to early Gamefreak

Welcome to hell

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 10:12:50 No.23583787 Report

Quoted By: >>23585523

>>23583246
You could just switch to Essentials.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 10:44:01 No.23583871 Report

Quoted By: >>23584004 >>23585042

So why is it that many hacks never bother to change the main character's sprite?

Honestly, it's one of the biggest things that turn me off a fangame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 11:42:41 No.23584004 Report

Quoted By: >>23584007

>>23583871
Sometimes, it's better to keep the default character sprites than see the really super shitty ones that are in some games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 11:43:48 No.23584007 Report

Quoted By:

>>23584004
I can get that sometimes, but I see it even in games with Fakemon. Like, go the whole hog, why not?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 11:45:30 No.23584009 Report

Quoted By: >>23584033

>tfw a game's player character isnt wearing a hat

THEY MUST ALWAYS WEAR HATS

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 11:56:20 No.23584033 Report

Quoted By:

>>23584009
nay

that's the autism speaking

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 13:53:20 No.23584336 Report

Quoted By:

Can someone point me in the right direction of some gen 3 overworld NPC templates? All I'm seeing on DA are Gen 4 templates.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 16:53:47 No.23585042 Report

Quoted By:

>>23583871
Because along with the trainer sprite you need to change the overworld sprite, which includes animations for running, biking, surfing, fishing, and whatever else, as well as the trainer backsprite and any VS. Portraits you hope to use.

That's too much work for some people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 17:12:43 No.23585158 Report

Quoted By:

>>23583246
>having pointer troubles
Clearly your body isn't ready for this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 18:04:05 No.23585523 Report

Quoted By: >>23585540

>>23583787
I could also go trans and become the next CWC.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 18:05:52 No.23585540 Report

Quoted By: >>23585666

>>23585523
this tbh

Essentials a shit

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 18:20:56 No.23585666 Report

Quoted By: >>23585693

>>23585540
romhakcing a shit.

What now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 18:24:01 No.23585693 Report

Quoted By: >>23585895

>>23585666
Essentials is poorly constructed, inefficient shit. Even vanilla RPGMXP is a better idea than Essentials.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 18:32:10 No.23585758 Report

Quoted By: >>23585810 >>23585830

Are there any good X/Y, ORAS hacks yet? I heard there were one or two romhacks but they weren't anything special.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 18:37:49 No.23585810 Report

Quoted By:

>>23585758
>he hasn't played Pokemon Quartz 3D

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 18:40:33 No.23585830 Report

Quoted By:

>>23585758
Someone tried making an XY difficulty hack that people criticized for some of the choices the author seemed to make, like changing the plot to something that apparently requires an external document to understand, and some really, really weird type changes.

Drayano said he was working on an ORAS hack, I don't know how far progress has been on that yet.

You need a Gateway to play the hacks anyway so there isn't too high a demand yet for Gen VI hacks. Maybe in a couple years when 3DS emulation is somewhat competent (last I checked progress was happening fast) there'll be more of a demand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 18:47:51 No.23585895 Report

Quoted By: >>23585908 >>23585940 >>23585970

>>23585693
inefficient? On what, a potato? Did you even try any anti-lag scripts or making it so all your maps weren't connected in one giant mess?

Go back to romhacking where you can't easily define what you want the battle AI to do. Or have to scrounge for free space and then repoint just to add moves to a Pokemon. Or have to work with the pile of vomit that is Advanced Map.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 18:49:53 No.23585908 Report

Quoted By: >>23585942

>>23585895
face it son essentials coding is shit

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 18:53:41 No.23585940 Report

Quoted By: >>23586041

Almost there.

>>23585895
If your answer to the problems of Essentials optimization is "get a better computer" I don't know what to say.

Also I've been using the disassembly, I can add and remove moves and shit at ease and when it compiles everything just naturally moves down. If I run out of space on the ROM I can even just expand it to 4MB instead of it being 2MB.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 18:54:06 No.23585942 Report

Quoted By:

>>23585908
Yeah, good comeback, retard. You sure showed him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 18:57:29 No.23585970 Report

Quoted By: >>23586015

>>23585895

This. Although not as complete as a Pokemon engine, Essentials is superior for the sheer fact that it is less buggy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 19:02:19 No.23586015 Report

Quoted By: >>23586052 >>23586069 >>23586075 >>23586130 >>23587743

>>23585970
All I know is that when I tried to play ZO the game ran at 50% speed, including battles. And ZO seems to be one of the only hacks in Essentials that some people don't consider to be complete shit, so I don't know what that says about the rest of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 19:06:28 No.23586041 Report

Quoted By: >>23586194

>>23585940
You need a certain base to run PE and then it's fine as long as you don't make one enormous map.

Gatehouses should connect to a new cluster of maps. Lots of people are bad about that. There's several anti-lag scripts that help too.

But if you ladened it down with GIFs and huge ass MP3s like a lot of game do it is going to lag. The ease of use does make people shit at optimising.

Elite Battle has made animated battle sprites pretty cheap resource wise. Base PE just shrank the size of it default assets a lot and it never had more than midi music anyway.

Huh, I haven't worked with ROMs in years. Has FR gotten that easy? I played with Mr. Dollsteak's patch for a light rebalance and it was a dream but Adv. Map still made me cringe.

Has AI edit progressed? I wasn't joking when I said AI editing was easy as shit in PE. And the base Rom AI is terrible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 19:09:29 No.23586052 Report

Quoted By: >>23586069 >>23586194

>>23586015
Did you get the GIFs? That shit rapes RMXP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 19:12:14 No.23586069 Report

Quoted By: >>23586194

>>23586015
>>23586052
>a fucking GB of GIFs

Anon, Gabe's computer couldn't make that work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 19:13:31 No.23586075 Report

Quoted By:

>>23586015
ZO is okay gameplay wise, but really weak in just about every other area. The mapping is god awful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 19:27:54 No.23586130 Report

Quoted By: >>23586148 >>23586194

>>23586015
Get a better computer

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 19:30:17 No.23586148 Report

Quoted By:

>>23586130
nah, nothing is fixing that shit but work on the dev's part.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 19:31:48 No.23586151 Report

Quoted By: >>23586168 >>23586172

So, i want to make some pokemon-esque maps for a thing, what program can I use thats free/torrentable?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 19:35:23 No.23586168 Report

Quoted By: >>23586176

>>23586151
Just to have maps?

http://www.mapeditor.org/

You'll have to play with the settings, like tile size but it works. don't remember if it supports layers.

RPG Maker XP works and I know that has layers, but you'll have to torrent it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 19:37:04 No.23586172 Report

Quoted By:

>>23586151
Literally read the OP

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 19:37:53 No.23586176 Report

Quoted By:

>>23586168
i dont really need layers, but it looks like itll work, thanks anon

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 19:41:51 No.23586194 Report

Quoted By: >>23586284

>>23586041
I've only worked with Gen 2's disassembly and taken glances at Gen 1's from time to time, so I'm not sure about Gen 3, but from my understanding Fire Red still has chunks of codes that haven't been fully disassembled so I don't think it's in -as- good a state as the first two. I haven't gotten to messing with map data in Crystal yet thinking about it, I hope I don't have to do all that by hand. I know someone was working on a disassembly map editor for Pokémon Red (and it seemed really good), but I'm not sure about Crystal at all.

>>23586052
>>23586069
My ZO folder is only 166MB, so I assume I don't have the GB of GIFs.

When I open ZO and try to play it, after the obvious MIDI title screen, I open my file, take about three seconds to load, try to move in the overworld, the game freezes for half a second every time lightning flashes, I get into a wild battle, the game takes an extra second of loading before the battle starts, I attack, even though I have battle animations turned off there's a delay of about a second when I attack, though after the Pokémon fainted it did move quicker than I remember. I tried going into a second wild battle and after the battle started the game crashed.

And the overworld I remember being slower in places like that town with the dynamic lighting; I was in a small area cut off from other maps (or so I assume) while testing this since I only played the game for a little longer than one badge before I got fed up with the shitty performance.

>>23586130
I don't see why I should spend hundreds of dollars to play a shitty fangame when I can play shitty ROMhacks easily under my current specs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 19:58:34 No.23586284 Report

Quoted By: >>23586540

>>23586194
Hm, it could be that you noticing that RMXP/PE runs at 40 FPS standard. That is much slower than the base games. It's a easy edit.

Yeah, Win7 on(or vista I don't remember) causes RMXP to shit itself with midis. Everytime it loads a midi it loads them all, causing the 3-5 second loading time you noticed.

So you have to use optimized mp3s/oggs(to not bloat size) or you get that loading pause on new map/battle.

Battles being slow is the dev's fault for not editing wait times. You can edit that.

The lighting and shadow stuff is just unoptimized, they really should just remove it to stop people from using it. If they spam it they're fucking up. Looks ehh to me anyway.

Can't fix his crashing haha.

I should look at Gen 2 stuff. Have the gotten the P/S split in?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 19:58:46 No.23586285 Report

Quoted By: >>23586403

Benefits of Essentials
>My first gamedev: the experience allows for pick up and dev fangame-making fun
>Able to make larger fangames than possible via romhacking
>

Benefits of romhacking
>The know-how necessary to make a romhack is beneficial in more areas
>More control over what happens
>Able to export game and play on platforms other than PC
>Able to port game to increasingly improbable platforms depending on ASM experience

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 20:16:11 No.23586403 Report

Quoted By: >>23586553

>>23586285
>More control over what happens

No way. Custom scripts are way better in PE/RMXP. You can do whatever the fuck you want. Change the UI, use any generations battle mechanics, or berry mechanics.

There's a lot of custom scripts to add great stuff. World Tournament script, editable flow of time script, limit battles to XvX (with clauses). You can make the AI harder with ease by just adjusting the trainer AI level.

I'd switch that out for optimized. You're building your game for the GBA, it'll run on anything that run a GBA emu.

Which is everything today.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 20:40:17 No.23586540 Report

Quoted By:

>>23586284
Oh yeah, the P/S split is pretty easy actually. I just looked at Crystal Complete (a disassembly base someone made), looked at their code they used to put in the split, and transferred it to mine (having to change things around since Crystal Complete was made with a now outdated version of the disassembly). I also changed the battle UI to show the type of move it is.

Really the big struggle with the Crystal disassembly is just figuring out where everything is. If you want to edit movesets or stats or trainers that's absolutely trivial, but if you want to do something like edit the battle menu you first have to find the code for it and then figure out what does what so you can figure out where to even start with changing or adding something. I had an easier time creating Sylveon from scratch with slot 252 than I did just adding the phys/spec split to the UI.

Though now that I know what I needed to do to that, if I needed to add it elsewhere, as long as I know where that elsewhere is it'd be easy to implement. If that makes sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 20:41:53 No.23586553 Report

Quoted By: >>23587055

>>23586403
>You can do whatever the fuck you want. Change the UI, use any generations battle mechanics, or berry mechanics.
You can do all of that in a romhack, too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 20:51:54 No.23586609 Report

Quoted By: >>23586633 >>23586643 >>23593645

Hey guys. I made a game and released a demo. It's called Pokemon Crimson Skies. It's 20 hours long and has 6 gyms.

http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=336534 Thread

https://mega.co.nz/#!CcUhVYgQ!SIzTts8-FITvKZViLtcFQmlv4jlESIfozHG6nEiWikU Main Download

https://mega.co.nz/#!LU8ViBrQ!cUBlUh3ohTW1luEQCFhTteZV7N1rUC6UUXS3eykwFcA Patch

Download the Patch if you want to fix the error when trying to erase an old move for a new one, and the error with catching Pokemon. Also fixed Pokedex and Fairy-type move button, and Fletchinder not evolving.

Let me know if you like it and I'll post progress here from now on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 20:55:51 No.23586633 Report

Quoted By: >>23586661

>>23586609
Hi Florio

Paint Dude

Paint Dude Sun 07 Jun 2015 20:58:19 No.23586643 Report

Quoted By: >>23586661

>>23586609
That looks awesome!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 21:03:38 No.23586661 Report

Quoted By:

>>23586633
Sup anon

>>23586643
Thanks man, got a game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 21:14:51 No.23586718 Report

Quoted By: >>23586825

>>23580062

i wanna play a gen 3 remake of gold/silver but i cant decide if i should play light crystal or shiny gold/shiny gold x

any suggestions?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 21:39:44 No.23586825 Report

Quoted By: >>23586830 >>23586869

>>23586718
They each have their problems. Shiny Gold is pretty faithful but it's really old so it couldn't do some things that later hacks can do today.

Liquid Crystal (I assume that's what you mean by Light Crystal since Googling Light Crystal just brings me to Liquid) is well-put-together for what it is, but what it is involves original content that some people find pretty cringeworthy.

There's also CrystalDust which is similarly well-put-together and meant to be 100% accurate and with accurate features like a Pokégear, but it's a WIP and only has Johto complete at the moment.

So, really, pick your poison. If you want both regions and don't mind potentially cringey original content, go with Liquid Crystal. If you want both regions and do mind, Shiny Gold. If you'd rather have polish and accuracy than Kanto, CrystalDust.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 21:40:47 No.23586830 Report

Quoted By:

>>23586825

thanks friend

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 21:46:05 No.23586869 Report

Quoted By:

>>23586825
Just adding on to this to say that Shiny Gold also includes some original content. Not as much as Liquid Crystal, though. I think it adds another rival and Hoenn Pokemon. Thought I'd mention it in case it's a deal breaker for the anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 22:15:34 No.23587055 Report

Quoted By: >>23587270

>>23586553
Not as easily. In PE it's changing a few images and positioning numbers.

Don't play and say changing the UI in a major way in a romhack would be easy.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 22:48:46 No.23587270 Report

Quoted By: >>23587345 >>23587793 >>23587823

>>23587055
Anon working on Crystal here, it kind of is just changing a few images and positioning strings of text. Screens like the battle and pack UI consist of loading images and positioning strings of text.

Pic related is the tileset for the pack UI's fancy border. Each 8x8 square is a tile that makes up part of the image, and you just position each tile to a coordinate, and then assigns a palette. I positioned the raw base image to the finished product. It's slightly more tedious but it's the same result and brings down filesize. (The backpack is the only part of the fancy UI not in that image; it has its own image that's even simpler to understand.)

Now, most hacks don't bother changing this stuff out of complacency, but if you want a proof of concept of how to change it, look at TRE2. It's Red instead of Crystal, but the images are put together the same way.

http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=318873

If you go to the Updated screens section of the OP, you'll see Pokéglitch's new battle UI, his new pack UI (now actually coding in the pockets was likely not so simple since they weren't in Red to begin with), new Pokédex UI, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 22:57:00 No.23587345 Report

Quoted By: >>23587412

>>23587270
TRE2 is really impressive-looking, but doesn't seem to have had any progress in months.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 23:07:25 No.23587412 Report

Quoted By:

>>23587345
Pokéglitch spent some time switching to the disassembly back in January (he previously did a lot of those features using the base ROM which would've been a lot harder -- Pokéglitch is really damn talented), and he also spent some time making a disassembly map editor for Gen 1 that handles everything (Crystal has a disassembly map editor but it only handles block data and a few other things like tileset, music, etc., while GlitchMap is going to have shit like map connections, which is one of the hardest things to do in Gen 1 and 2 and it's why you see a lot of people use warps instead of connecting maps normally).

He also posts updates in the thread itself about what he's working on, even if he doesn't update the main post for it. In the last month he worked on making temporary status effects permanent for the course of a battle (so you can't switch out and switch back in to get rid of something like confusion), making Toxic stay as Toxic outside of battle, autosave in Nuzlocke mode, and adding features like the special stat split and held items. He seems to be making a ton of progress, just not putting it on the front page. I really aspire to one day be as knowledgeable with the things I'm doing with my hack as people like Pokéglitch, Shantytown (he made Maize, another impressive hack), Koolboyman (I don't even have to say it), etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 23:09:44 No.23587428 Report

Quoted By: >>23587498 >>23587513 >>23587558 >>23588489

I wish you idiots would just make an improvement over a vanilla game, instead of reworking everything or adding/removing/changing unnecesary shit.

More of this:
http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/1420/
http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/1385/

And less randomizer bullshit, fan garbage or edgy shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 23:18:16 No.23587498 Report

Quoted By: >>23587539

>>23587428
I would love a standalone Johto game with no Kanto. Maybe add in some extra areas in the north to bulk out Johto.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 23:19:30 No.23587513 Report

Quoted By:

>>23587428
do it yourself asshole. I make game I enjoy first.

look up mr. doll steak for a firered version of that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 23:22:41 No.23587539 Report

Quoted By:

>>23587498
I want to see the level curve fixed in G/S/C.

Up the levels of everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 23:24:26 No.23587558 Report

Quoted By:

>>23587428
But every generation except VI already has one of those. You'd just be making something that already exists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 23:49:34 No.23587743 Report

Quoted By:

>>23586015
Even my shitty laptop ran it fine, and that thing would overheat trying to play YouTube videos

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 23:56:14 No.23587793 Report

Quoted By:

>>23587270
Yeah, really what Essentials has over ROMhacks is not that it's more flexible, it's that it's easier to learn. They both have pros and cons, but if one does have the skill to edit an actual Pokemon game into doing what they want, they should jump all over that just because the games are already optimized for playing Pokemon for obvious reasons, while RPGMaker is not. In the end though, both are perfectly adequate options

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2015 23:59:26 No.23587823 Report

Quoted By: >>23587909

>>23587270
Is a list/compilation of the new tools for crystal? or are they all private?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Jun 2015 00:10:10 No.23587909 Report

Quoted By: >>23587919 >>23588347 >>23591399

>>23587823
It's not tools that are doing these things, it's the disassembly.

https://github.com/kanzure/pokecrystal

You can work with the source directly, which is how people have been doing all this shit like TRE2's features or Shantytown incorporating Eggs into Gen 1 (he says he doesn't plan on incorporating breeding, and the Eggs will be gifts and such, but still).

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Jun 2015 00:11:10 No.23587919 Report

Quoted By: >>23588347

>>23587909
https://github.com/iimarckus/pokered

Forgot to link Red's disassembly as well.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 08 Jun 2015 01:15:06 No.23588347 Report

Quoted By:

>>23587919
>>23587909
that's fucking amazing and I will look into it, but it hurts to looks at the AI coding. That will be a bitch to work on and refamiliarize myself with asm again. I really want to take a whack at Red now.

Being able to do edit with ease like this is why I like PE.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 08 Jun 2015 01:34:33 No.23588489 Report

Quoted By:

>>23587428
Is there a Crystal hack that fixes the terrible level scaling? Because I really want to work on that if it doesn't exist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Jun 2015 03:13:06 No.23589173 Report

Quoted By:

>>23582205
Bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Jun 2015 09:12:14 No.23590910 Report

Quoted By: >>23591004 >>23592411

>>23582205
maybe set the script to to switch, then manipulate that switch to on during the initialize on save loading method?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Jun 2015 09:46:53 No.23591004 Report

Quoted By:

>>23590910
set the script to a*

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Jun 2015 12:13:04 No.23591399 Report

Quoted By: >>23592305

>>23587909
How hard is map editing if you use the disassembly?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 08 Jun 2015 16:34:48 No.23592305 Report

Quoted By: >>23597735

Currently working on adding pic related to my hack.

>>23591399
Well for Crystal, from what I understand you have to use this tool: https://github.com/yenatch/crowdmap

It only handles block data and a couple other things so you have to manually do all the scripts, but it's not that bad, editing the maps themselves are just fine, you'll just have to change the scripts afterward.

For Red, I assume there's something similar, but there's also a much more in-depth editor in the works: http://hax.iimarck.us/topic/5657/ When that's complete it'll make map editing a TON easier for Red.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Jun 2015 16:51:54 No.23592411 Report

Quoted By: >>23592980

>>23590910
Exactly my thoughts, but I'm not sure what script to look in. It's more than one too because I've tried fucking with the terrain script only and no luck there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Jun 2015 17:03:02 No.23592469 Report

Quoted By:

Started trying to flesh out the story of mine

Yeah, now I'm seeing the issue. It's so skeletal that I'm left going, "...Wait, how IS attacking the Ruins of Alph helping progress in their minds?"

Time to do research on pro progress terrorist groups (do those even exist in real life?)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Jun 2015 18:53:02 No.23592980 Report

Quoted By: >>23593383

>>23592411
can't find it

add the "on a bridge" global switch to the event when you walk on it to turn bridges on. It'll be on when you load the game, bam the bridge should load with the right script.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Jun 2015 20:04:04 No.23593383 Report

Quoted By: >>23593397

>>23592980
Tried it. Saving on top of the bridges works, but when I load the game in and step on the Off switch, it causes a graphical glitch.

http://imgur.com/BdI9rpT,osroxHN,4UXvEYY

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Jun 2015 20:07:20 No.23593397 Report

Quoted By: >>23593406 >>23593524 >>23593801

>>23593383
Nevermind, the switch fix didn't actually work. I adjusted the tiles below the bridge and changed them back to water (was checking if autotiles were the problem), but I still load in beneath the bridge after I edit the map in any way. When I load in UNDER the bridge though, the graphical glitch in >>23593383 doesn't occur.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Jun 2015 20:09:39 No.23593406 Report

Quoted By:

>>23593397
It's also only the bridge tiles (marked 15 in the terrain tag editor) giving me this problem (it's a stretch of 3x4 tiles, and they're the only ones disappearing or that I load in underneath. The tiles at the ends that I didn't mark as bridge tiles are fine. I load in just find on top of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Jun 2015 20:31:22 No.23593524 Report

Quoted By: >>23593584

>>23593397
Why not make bridge over water autotiles if you don't allow the player to surf under?

Seems like it solves your issues right there

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Jun 2015 20:44:17 No.23593584 Report

Quoted By: >>23593914

>>23593524
It is over water autotiles, is the issue. Maybe I should just make that water impassable or a non-water tile (in terms of terrain tags) so the player can't surf on it from the side of the bridge? Because if I turn them back into regular tiles, that's what happens; the player can surf at any point of the bridge passing over the water.

Numel !X.jt37ypTM

Numel !X.jt37ypTM Mon 08 Jun 2015 20:54:15 No.23593645 Report

Quoted By:

>>23586609
Fuck off Florio

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Jun 2015 21:17:38 No.23593801 Report

Quoted By:

>>23593397
You make sure there are still tiles when the switch is off?

Have a conditional branch check for when the player is facing up or down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Jun 2015 21:28:03 No.23593844 Report

Quoted By: >>23594125

How the fuck am I supposed to beat Maxie/Admin in the double battle with Steven in Emerald Omega?

I'm 7 levels above Maxie and they just rip through Steven. In the 30ish battles I've fought I think he's managed to do damage once.

The only thing I could imagine is Rain Dance, but I won't get that until I get dive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Jun 2015 21:38:26 No.23593914 Report

Quoted By: >>23593923

>>23593584
No, I'm saying make a new autotile set that is the bridge on water. No layers needed. Treat it like a normal tile

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Jun 2015 21:39:50 No.23593923 Report

Quoted By:

>>23593914
Oh damn didn't see that part

Yeah, make the water next to it non surfable and as another auto tile type

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Jun 2015 22:15:55 No.23594125 Report

Quoted By:

>>23593844
Grind like a motherfucker.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Jun 2015 23:41:43 No.23594551 Report

Quoted By:

So I remembered about Pokemon Snakewood. And how uh... "unique" it is. I like the concept behind it but dear god it tries way too hard to be "dark", not to mention all those tiles errors...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Jun 2015 02:14:08 No.23595599 Report

Quoted By: >>23604803

And I just looked at a Let's Play of Snakewood

Dear god, anybody here who wants to know how NOT to make a game, look no further than Snakewood. Puzzles with answers that can only be answered by random guessing? Horrible, HORRIBLE balancing? Broken tilesets? Mazes that literally lead to random locations with no explanation? Able to trigger the end game by ACCIDENT halfway through the game? Horrible sprites? Edgy and bad humour? All that and more!

Holy crap a number Captcha

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jun 2015 02:39:03 No.23595794 Report

Quoted By: >>23595820 >>23596264 >>23597726

Working on the Pokemon Center and Pokemart now. Going to post pics of the maps as they will be in game

Not sure about the grass - Wanted to imply that Professor Elm recently expanded the area back there to allow starters he gets to get some exercise out back

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jun 2015 02:44:07 No.23595820 Report

Quoted By: >>23595837

>>23595794
Route 29. The path became more developed but no route 1 is complete without the ledges. The path south leads to one of the areas where I shove a bunch of the new Pokemon so the regular routes don't suddenly become flooded with a ton of Pokemon

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jun 2015 02:47:16 No.23595837 Report

Quoted By: >>23595874

>>23595820
Fuck an error in the top left. Need to fix that

Anyways, this is Nova Cove. While Route 29 had Zigzagoon and Taillow added (Taillow so there is at least one more bird for day, Zigzagoon because Pickup), Nova Cove has only Hoothoot and Sentret for the first 251, and otherwise has Pokemon like Shellos, Wingull, and the previously mentioned Zigzagoon and Taillow. Manaphy's egg is also found here, but you need surf to get it

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jun 2015 02:51:35 No.23595874 Report

Quoted By: >>23596264

>>23595837
And Cherrygrove City - Some erosion, the buildings changed a bit, but mostly the same. Think I'll leave it here for now so as to not spam the thread

Although the next route is also attached to a berry farm with a ton of berry patches. Will also be a fly spot. Because fuck having to track down a ton of berry patches. Plus this way I can leave the Apricorn Trees alone

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Jun 2015 04:09:49 No.23596264 Report

Quoted By: >>23596395

>>23595794
>>23595874

Are you doing this in a ROM or PE? I remember the nice coin on the Pokemart.

Minor areas for new pokes is a good idea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Jun 2015 04:25:46 No.23596395 Report

Quoted By: >>23597905

>>23596264
Pokemon Essentials, I'm trying to stick to GSC limitations as a challenge which means more edits to the mart and center roofs to come

And yeah, the plan is for one to two new Pokemon in each existing route (new = 252 and above - I am still going to do things like make Houndour appear on any route with Growlithe and Vulpix but at night, for example), all but one or two Pokemon being new in each minor area, and caves and such varying depending (e.g. Dark Cave will have only Shuppet added, but there are new floors added that will have a ton of new Pokemon, Whirl Islands are completely revamped so the Pokemon distribution may change entirely, Mt Moon is going to have Solrock, Lunatone, and Beldum added, and so on)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jun 2015 09:33:15 No.23597726 Report

Quoted By: >>23598636 >>23599676

>>23595794
The colors remind me of the bootleg versions of Gold for the NES

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Jun 2015 09:35:00 No.23597735 Report

Quoted By: >>23599676

>>23592305
Is there more like that? I'm totally using this wow

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Jun 2015 10:26:48 No.23597905 Report

Quoted By: >>23598636 >>23599608

>>23596395
>Solrock, Lunatone, and Beldum added

Did you read my mind? I put those guys there in my game haha.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Jun 2015 13:26:36 No.23598636 Report

Quoted By: >>23599608 >>23599676

>>23597726
Now I want to play that knock off

>>23597905
Mt Moon - pretty much space central

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Jun 2015 17:57:50 No.23599608 Report

Quoted By: >>23600822

>>23597905
>>23598636
Ayy, don't forget Elgyem, lmao.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Jun 2015 18:12:20 No.23599676 Report

Quoted By: >>23600078

>>23597735
>>23597735
Well the patch just comes with the first 251, though Skeetendo's sprite thread has some extras from later generations if you want to search through there. If you were making a game with all 721, then you wouldn't have them all, but there are some extras for people who were replacing Pokémon in the actual Gen 1/2 games.

>>23597726
>>23598636
I remember trying to play the Red NES bootleg once, and the game tended to sporadically white out during battles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Jun 2015 19:27:31 No.23600078 Report

Quoted By: >>23600126

>>23599676
>I remember trying to play the Red NES bootleg once, and the game tended to sporadically white out during battles.

It's almost like it's a poorly-made bootleg.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Jun 2015 19:38:14 No.23600126 Report

Quoted By: >>23600315

>>23600078
Well yeah, just saying it's probably worth not looking at Gold's bootleg if it's impossible to progress like in Red.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Jun 2015 20:06:13 No.23600315 Report

Quoted By:

>>23600126
Some guys took that Final Fantasy 7 NES bootleg and totally revamped it to make it worth playing.

Just saying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Jun 2015 21:22:35 No.23600822 Report

Quoted By:

>>23599608
fuck off nigger

Elgyem is stupid

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jun 2015 23:15:02 No.23601728 Report

Quoted By: >>23601763

I'm trying to design a region for my game.
Does this look like a good region?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Jun 2015 23:23:27 No.23601763 Report

Quoted By: >>23601848 >>23601854 >>23601961

>>23601728
Backtracking: The Game

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jun 2015 23:34:32 No.23601848 Report

Quoted By: >>23601998

>>23601763
Is this better

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Jun 2015 23:35:15 No.23601854 Report

Quoted By: >>23601998

>>23601763
>implying backtracking is a bad thing
Never make a game

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Jun 2015 23:49:07 No.23601961 Report

Quoted By: >>23602007

>>23601763
You're the reason this series is turning to shit

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 09 Jun 2015 23:50:28 No.23601974 Report

Quoted By: >>23602007

Red squares are gym cities.

Gray squares are towns except for the topmost squares, which are Victory Road and the Elite 4.

Black segments are routes and blue segments are water routes.

Rate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Jun 2015 23:53:26 No.23601998 Report

Quoted By: >>23602069

>>23601854
>>23601848

Backtracking =/= Nonlinear

With the only information being the numbers (probably indicating gyms), all I can assume is that you have to go to those locations in that precise order, which makes the backtracking stupid as fuck. Now, if I'm able to, say, go to 5 before 4? Hit, say, 2, ignore 3, and go to 6? Then it's fine

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Jun 2015 23:54:35 No.23602007 Report

Quoted By: >>23602028 >>23602367

>>23601961
>>23601974
Now I want to make a game full of backtracking that is linear as fuck just to spite you all. Holy crap

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Jun 2015 23:57:17 No.23602028 Report

Quoted By: >>23602037

>>23602007
I doubt you'd even start.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Jun 2015 23:59:39 No.23602037 Report

Quoted By:

>>23602028
Already started on my game :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Jun 2015 00:02:55 No.23602069 Report

Quoted By: >>23602082

>>23601998
The numbers are just gym towns.
You can do the gyms out of order

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Jun 2015 00:04:09 No.23602082 Report

Quoted By:

>>23602069
Ah, alright then. In that case it looks pretty good

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Jun 2015 00:41:56 No.23602367 Report

Quoted By: >>23602418

>>23602007
Make it SAO-tier and have every major location in an Xboxhueg tower right outside of the starting town

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Jun 2015 00:51:10 No.23602418 Report

Quoted By:

>>23602367
And flashbacks to Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass

I still want to hurt Nintendo for that. At least we know Pokemon will never reach that level of fuck you

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 10 Jun 2015 04:29:11 No.23603730 Report

Quoted By:

>>23580062

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 10 Jun 2015 05:41:12 No.23604094 Report

Quoted By: >>23604096 >>23604796

Route 30 became a bit more travel friendly in this, and also connects to the Berry Grove, which has an oran, pecha, rawst, aspear, cheri, and chesto berry at it

Although question - Should I go to the GSC names for the berries for nostalgia, or not?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 10 Jun 2015 05:42:18 No.23604096 Report

Quoted By: >>23604099

>>23604094

Still, uh, working on the outdoor tileset. I keep forgetting to do the loamy soil

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 10 Jun 2015 05:43:39 No.23604099 Report

Quoted By: >>23604103

>>23604096

Route 31 didn't change all that much

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 10 Jun 2015 05:45:13 No.23604103 Report

Quoted By: >>23604106 >>23604796

>>23604099

Fun fact - the building normally in the corner is supposed to be the Ruins of Alph, but it would just barely be off the Violet City map if they placed it right

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 10 Jun 2015 05:46:35 No.23604106 Report

Quoted By:

>>23604103
Route 36 changed a large amount. This time the blockade is a guard

Because what Pokemon game would be complete without an arbitrary broken bridge?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 10 Jun 2015 06:27:45 No.23604237 Report

Quoted By: >>23604252

The starting town for my essentials project

This is my first time using a gen 2 tileset so any help on how to improve would be appreciated

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Jun 2015 06:30:37 No.23604252 Report

Quoted By: >>23604295

>>23604237
GSC style maps tend to have tiles as 2x2 sets - so you'd never find grass as a single tile, for example, nor the two tall trees. This also means that buildings tend to be an even number of blocks tall and wide (although there are exceptions)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Jun 2015 06:43:43 No.23604295 Report

Quoted By:

>>23604252
I was going to have the grass be like that, thanks for reminding me.

I plan for grass and pathways to be the only things that follow that 2x2 rule. I like having the trees be this way because it allows for me to design towns in a neater way.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 10 Jun 2015 07:01:51 No.23604363 Report

Quoted By: >>23604370 >>23604377 >>23607422

Hello /vp/, I'm kinda new to this. I just got gifted a DS with Pokemon platinum. I intend to actually play through honestly but I know you can't get some pokemon anymore so I got an action replay because of it.

It's honestly so fucking confusing, Can someone just tell me exactly how to hack in specific pokemon I want? (the other 2 starters)

and can I or can I not breed these? it says on code junkies you shouldn't but I've seen others say it's perfectly fine.

cheers for any replies

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Jun 2015 07:04:20 No.23604370 Report

Quoted By:

>>23604363
just fucking play through honestly and this isn't even the general for what you're doing

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Jun 2015 07:06:31 No.23604377 Report

Quoted By:

>>23604363
This is the wrong general thread for that. Mind, I don't think there is a currently active AR general

But yeah, lurk some and wait til an action replay/power save general thread comes up. You'll have better luck in there

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Jun 2015 10:26:45 No.23604796 Report

Quoted By: >>23606390

>>23604094
I'd stick with the new names

They look good.

>>23604103
City building may be a bit... flat? Maybe it's the shadow being the same color.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Jun 2015 10:29:43 No.23604803 Report

Quoted By:

>>23595599
Snakewood's murder mystery bit is absolutely infuriating.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Jun 2015 17:14:54 No.23606390 Report

Quoted By:

>>23604796
Yeah, sadly among the limitations is a four shade one colour limit in every 1/4 tile. Still fixing some tiles to meet that standard

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Jun 2015 20:05:05 No.23607298 Report

Quoted By: >>23607422

Is there any possible way to use PKHeX if you're system has been recently updated?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Jun 2015 20:07:06 No.23607311 Report

Quoted By:

>tfw no more circle to shitpost about

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Jun 2015 20:17:46 No.23607361 Report

Quoted By: >>23607422

Hey is there any way for me to find my TID if I've updated my system?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Jun 2015 20:27:12 No.23607422 Report

Quoted By: >>23607527

>>23607361
>>23607298
>>23604363
Wrong thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Jun 2015 20:41:07 No.23607527 Report

Quoted By: >>23607537

>>23607422
Maybe this should be called "ROM Hacking & Essentials General", or /rheg/

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Jun 2015 20:43:08 No.23607537 Report

Quoted By:

>>23607527
I'll fix that next thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Jun 2015 20:44:40 No.23607545 Report

Quoted By: >>23607560 >>23607614

Should I nuzlocke Volt White or just have a regular playthrough?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Jun 2015 20:47:19 No.23607560 Report

Quoted By: >>23607568

>>23607545
>nuzlockers and inject kiddies are leaking back into the thread
It was fun while it lasted

RIP in peace, /heg/

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Jun 2015 20:48:54 No.23607568 Report

Quoted By:

>>23607560
so no?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 10 Jun 2015 20:51:40 No.23607585 Report

Quoted By: >>23607883 >>23607935 >>23608038

After the script ends I cannot move my player, am I doing something wrong?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Jun 2015 20:56:13 No.23607614 Report

Quoted By: >>23607626

>>23607545
I can understand the other stuff because hacking is in the title. But fucking really? How do you assume this thread has anything to do with Nuzlockes?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Jun 2015 20:58:05 No.23607626 Report

Quoted By: >>23607639

>>23607614
b-b-but volt white is a hack

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Jun 2015 21:00:00 No.23607639 Report

Quoted By:

>>23607626
If you were talking about anything other than "what type of run should I do" I'd understand, but that stuff is for nuzlocke threads, see >>23606123

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Jun 2015 21:40:42 No.23607883 Report

Quoted By: >>23607914

>>23607585
I'm not too familiar with essentials but try turning the switch off after the script ends

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Jun 2015 21:46:20 No.23607914 Report

Quoted By:

>>23607883
No that didn't work

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Jun 2015 21:49:49 No.23607935 Report

Quoted By: >>23608021

>>23607585
If I put wait for the moves completion after the script to make the player move the text never comes up and I can't move at all.

Am I doing something wrong here?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Jun 2015 22:05:35 No.23608021 Report

Quoted By: >>23608038

>>23607935
are you walking into something/a event?

You need through or to plan your move route more carefully.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 10 Jun 2015 22:09:40 No.23608038 Report

Quoted By: >>23608147 >>23608177

>>23608021
All that this script does is move you to a person
Says some things
Gives you the PokeGear and Running Shoes
And then says a few more things
Then the script ends

>>23607585
This is what it looks like

After it ends I cant move the player but I can talk to the person still and they just say what they would normally say.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Jun 2015 22:25:33 No.23608147 Report

Quoted By: >>23608188

>>23608038
Never mind I figured it out, It turned out I set the script to walk 1 extra step that would go into the mom, and the game cant do that so I wasnt able to move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Jun 2015 22:30:26 No.23608177 Report

Quoted By:

>>23608038
just to be sure, make sure there isn't a unwalkable tile there. it might be invisible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Jun 2015 22:31:37 No.23608188 Report

Quoted By:

>>23608147
that's what I thought

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 10 Jun 2015 22:45:33 No.23608261 Report

Quoted By:

Does this look like a good title screen?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 10 Jun 2015 22:53:00 No.23608317 Report

Quoted By:

When I choose my starter and get the Pokedex I can't see the Pokedex option on the menu. What do I do?

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