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Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 19:39:27 No.24514514 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>24514628 >>24514656 >>24514743 >>24514793 >>24517825 >>24517926 >>24517946 >>24527775 >>24528000

What's the one steel type mon that counters Zard X?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 19:43:18 No.24514534 Report

Quoted By: >>24514576 >>24514656

scarf excadrill

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 19:47:14 No.24514567 Report

Quoted By: >>24514656

Heatproof Bronzong

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 19:48:46 No.24514576 Report

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>>24514534

Not sure if bait or retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 19:49:25 No.24514583 Report

Quoted By: >>24514656

No steel type can counter Zard.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 19:55:48 No.24514628 Report

Quoted By: >>24514676

>>24514514
why would you want to counter a fire type with a steel type?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 19:55:51 No.24514630 Report

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Motherfucking Aggron

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 19:57:42 No.24514646 Report

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probopass

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 19:58:25 No.24514651 Report

Quoted By: >>24517681

Robocop

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 19:58:49 No.24514656 Report

Quoted By: >>24514667

>>24514567
>using levitate bronzong instead of air balloon heatproof bronzong

>>24514534
thats a counter

>>24514514
>>24514583
There's an answer for your stupid question OP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 19:59:06 No.24514658 Report

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MetalGreymon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 20:00:09 No.24514667 Report

Quoted By: >>24520557

>>24514656
check* scarf exca is a check

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 20:00:49 No.24514676 Report

Quoted By: >>24514698

>>24514628
>why would you want to counter a fire type with a steel type?

This. Also Heatran if Charizard runs Roost instead of Earthquake. So not a 100% safe bet counter, but the best bet for a Steel type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 20:02:00 No.24514684 Report

Quoted By: >>24517935 >>24525410

252+ Atk Tough Claws Mega Charizard X Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 16+ Def Aggron: 151-178 (43.8 - 51.7%) -- 10.9% chance to 2HKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 20:03:57 No.24514695 Report

Quoted By: >>24514721

Aegislash w/ head smash

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 20:04:23 No.24514698 Report

Quoted By: >>24514714

>>24514676

Heatran will eventually lose to dragon claw unless it has earth power.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 20:06:43 No.24514714 Report

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>>24514698
But why wouldn't it have Earth Power?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 20:07:52 No.24514721 Report

Quoted By: >>24514806

>>24514695
2HKO by Flare Blitz.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 20:10:51 No.24514743 Report

Quoted By: >>24514800

>>24514514
Heatran...

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 20:17:39 No.24514793 Report

Quoted By: >>24515097

>>24514514
Dialga is as close as we gon' get bitches.

>252+ Atk Tough Claws Mega Charizard X Flare Blitz vs. 244 HP / 252+ Def Dialga: 183-216 (45.5 - 53.7%) -- 39.5% chance to 2HKO
>0 SpA Dialga Draco Meteor vs. 144 HP / 0 SpD Mega Charizard X: 458-540 (137.5 - 162.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 20:18:30 No.24514800 Report

Quoted By: >>24517940 >>24517957

>>24514743
>Earthquake

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 20:19:35 No.24514806 Report

Quoted By:

>>24514721
>not using Scarf Head Smash Aegislash

:^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 20:46:48 No.24514994 Report

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Air Balloon Heatran

Just don't switch in a dragon claw. Switch in a dragon dance or flare blitz and OHKO it (if you have rocks up) with Earth Power if it doesnt switches out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 21:09:37 No.24515097 Report

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>>24514793
/thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 05:59:49 No.24517681 Report

Quoted By:

>>24514651
:]

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 06:34:33 No.24517814 Report

Quoted By: >>24517825

So easy. Isn't the answer obvious?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 06:37:30 No.24517825 Report

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>>24514514
>>24517814
it's obviously my benis

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 06:47:04 No.24517878 Report

Quoted By: >>24517922

Choice scarf aggron with sturdy.

Fuck you its a counter, switches in on anything an ohkos back

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 06:58:31 No.24517922 Report

Quoted By: >>24517937

>>24517878
Scarf doesn't outspeed dragon dance variants.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 06:59:42 No.24517926 Report

Quoted By:

>>24514514
Ice/Steel type

to counter his edgyness

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 07:03:19 No.24517935 Report

Quoted By:

>>24514684

Head Smash ftw

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 07:03:41 No.24517937 Report

Quoted By: >>24517948

>>24517922
Dragon dance variants use an adamant nature

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 07:04:07 No.24517940 Report

Quoted By: >>24518274 >>24527864

>>24514800
> Still running EQ X-Char

Pls go

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 07:07:52 No.24517946 Report

Quoted By: >>24517968

>>24514514
CTC's Penis

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 07:09:17 No.24517948 Report

Quoted By: >>24517982

>>24517937
I was thinking in the scenario where Charizard had +1 from a dragon dance it would still outspeed Aggron for the second hit after it swapped in

But then I saw
>Jolly Max Speed Aggron: 218
>Jolly Max Speed Aggron, after choice scarf: 327
>Jolly Max Speed base 100: 328
That's some ultimate bullshit right there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 07:11:52 No.24517957 Report

Quoted By:

>>24514800
>he doesn't run bulky ZardX+Ferro core

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 07:16:27 No.24517968 Report

Quoted By: >>24517991

>>24517946
CTC a man who put HP ice on latias

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 07:23:18 No.24517982 Report

Quoted By:

>>24517948
Not if you're playing on cart :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 07:29:07 No.24517991 Report

Quoted By: >>24517996

>>24517968
>Still not having an Azu counter kek

In all seriousness, I'm fairly sure that's the "one steel type that counters CharX" that got censored out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 07:31:36 No.24517996 Report

Quoted By: >>24518003

>>24517991
No, its already been established that its choice scarf sturdy aggron playing in cart.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 07:32:58 No.24518003 Report

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>>24517996
Wow, this actually rustled me even more than his uncle's rape jokes

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 07:33:50 No.24518009 Report

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What about Heatran or Dialga?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 07:52:16 No.24518049 Report

Quoted By: >>24518055

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=76oGBrUTL3w

About 38:20

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 07:53:57 No.24518055 Report

Quoted By: >>24518057

>>24518049
>shilling your video
ain't giving you a view

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 07:55:10 No.24518057 Report

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>>24518055
Its thread related and unless im thunderblunder777 it ain't my video

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 08:02:03 No.24518069 Report

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Heatran, Dialga as others have said

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 09:45:43 No.24518274 Report

Quoted By:

>>24517940
They're still around, man

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 19:49:53 No.24520557 Report

Quoted By: >>24523131 >>24523153

>>24514667
Whats the difference between a check and a counter?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:23:33 No.24523131 Report

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>>24520557
One can switch in and become a threat. The other can only revenge kill.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:27:05 No.24523153 Report

Quoted By: >>24525389

>>24520557
Counters can switch in consistently and win.

Checks either only win 1v1 or can only switch in and win under specific circumstances.

Hippowdon is a Manectric counter, it can switch in on any move and win.
Scarf Excadrill is a Manectric check, it wins 1v1 but risks taking an Overheat if it switches in directly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 14:37:09 No.24525389 Report

Quoted By: >>24525423 >>24526957

>>24523153
Most manectrics i see carry hidden power ice

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 14:42:50 No.24525410 Report

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>>24514684
252+ Atk Mega Charizard X Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 16+ Def Aggron: 260-308 (75.5 - 89.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Scarf Aggron new meta

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 14:46:04 No.24525423 Report

Quoted By:

>>24525389
Hippo has special defense investment 60% of the time
Hp ice unstab wont do much

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 20:32:09 No.24526957 Report

Quoted By:

>>24525389
252 SpA Mega Manectric Hidden Power Ice vs. 252 HP / 112 SpD Hippowdon: 154-182 (36.6 - 43.3%) -- 98.9% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Mega Manectric Overheat vs. 252 HP / 112 SpD Hippowdon: 165-195 (39.2 - 46.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 23:16:48 No.24527775 Report

Quoted By:

>>24514514
The only thing that comes close is Heatran that gets rekt by Brick Break or Earthquake

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 23:31:48 No.24527864 Report

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>>24517940
This. Brick Break is better. I've wrecked many Mega T-Tar with it when EQ would have fallen short. Also kills Air Balloon Heatran

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 23:53:10 No.24528000 Report

Quoted By:

>>24514514
Mega Blastoise with weaker STAB Discharge

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 00:56:52 No.24528293 Report

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>People on /vp/ who know the difference between checks and counters: about 3
Reminder that any opinion /vp/ has on competitive pokemon is absolute dog shit

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