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Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 05:51:51 No.24572446 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>24572475 >>24572949 >>24573513 >>24574343 >>24575629 >>24576331 >>24578383

>Literally one non-Mega Ghost type in OU.
>Literally 2 if you count Megas.

Ghost is such a neat type veepee. What slight buffs would you give, either to a single Pokemon or the type as a whole, to put more Ghosts in OU?

>Inb4 Unban Aegis.

Yeah yeah. But how with you put shit like Dusknoir or Jellicent back in OU?

Side Topic: Did you dress up today? What as?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 05:55:06 No.24572458 Report

Quoted By: >>24572650

Ghost is the least common type in the game, what do you expect?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 05:01:32 No.24572475 Report

Quoted By: >>24572650 >>24574329

>>24572446
The type itself isn't the issue. The individual pokemon are typically lacking, and when you see them have proper build they tend to excel.

Plus, while they're not OU, Cofagrigus, Trevanent and Chandelure are OU viable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 05:42:10 No.24572618 Report

Quoted By: >>24572666 >>24574591

Remove Knock Off

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 05:54:45 No.24572650 Report

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>>24572458

Actually it's tied with Ice as the least common type, with both types only having 35 Pokemon each

>>24572475

>Trevenant
>OU viable

It's not even viable in NU, Gourgeist outclasses it every way

The only reason it's still in RU is because of bad players

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 05:59:36 No.24572666 Report

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>>24572618
>This
Jellicent use to be the best counter to Keldeo. Not its sitting in RU

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 09:21:40 No.24572949 Report

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>>24572446
>literally

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Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 14:02:45 No.24573513 Report

Quoted By: >>24574251

>>24572446

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Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 17:08:26 No.24574251 Report

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>>24573513

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Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 17:30:18 No.24574329 Report

Quoted By: >>24574472

>>24572475
lol trevenant and cofagrigus suck. you didn't even mention the decent ghosts like gourgeist extra and mega banette

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 17:35:19 No.24574343 Report

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>>24572446
Give regular non-legendary Ghost-types better attacks. Shadow Ball and Shadow Claw are decent, but not worth writing about compared to commonly-seen attacks like Fire Blast or Ice Beam.

Oh, and make a region that's saturated with Ghost-types, I guess, like Hoenn with Water.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 17:57:50 No.24574450 Report

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>unban Aegislash
This would only make things worse. Fucking GENGAR was about to get kicked out of OU in the Aegislash meta. Aegislash makes good Pokemon that are weak to it completely unviable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 18:00:48 No.24574472 Report

Quoted By: >>24574521 >>24574570 >>24574594

>>24574329
>mega Banette
>decent
U fucking wot m8. Mega Banette is a liability and the biggest waste of a Mega slot there is. You're better off running Mega Audino at that point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 18:08:35 No.24574521 Report

Quoted By: >>24574570

>>24574472
>the biggest waste of a Mega slot there is. You're better off running Mega Audino at that point.
i'll take 100 for "he doesn't know shit of what he's talking about", alex

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 18:17:44 No.24574570 Report

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>>24574472
>>24574521
One has to wonder why Banette is a tier above Audino, tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 18:18:35 No.24574576 Report

Quoted By: >>24574595 >>24574613 >>24578390

OP quit crying. Bug is the most unappreciated type.

With mega/without mega

1) Psychic - 17/11
2) Flying - 12/11
2) Steel - 12/10
3) Dragon - 11/6
4) Fairy - 9/6
4) Water - 9/7
5) Dark - 8/5
6) Electric - 7/6
7) Grass - 6/5
7) Ground - 6/5
8) Fire - 5/3
9) Fighting - 4/3
9) Rock - 4/2
10) Normal - 3/2
10) Ghost - 3/2
10) Poison - 3/2
11) Ice - 2
11) Bug - 2/1

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 18:19:26 No.24574584 Report

Quoted By: >>24574594

Not quite what I had in mind desu senpai.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 18:21:04 No.24574591 Report

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>>24572618
dont remove it, but waayyyyy to many pokemon can learn it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 18:21:36 No.24574594 Report

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>>24574472
mega banette is ranked C in the ou viability rankings
mega audino isn't even there. mega audino doesn't even show up until the RU viability rankings. it's definitely the single worst mega evolution out there. even in doubles it sucks ass

>>24574584
>not being able to type "f︂︂a︂m t︂b︂︂h s︂︂m︂h"
f︂︂a︂m t︂b︂︂h s︂︂m︂h

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 18:21:52 No.24574595 Report

Quoted By: >>24575904

>>24574576
You forgot the 4 BL Bug-types.

Also, Bug-types have a variety of roles (Quiver Dance, Phys Attacker, Swords Dance, defensive) other than the generic "defensive burn spreader" or "special attacker" that Ghost-types tend to get stuck into.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 18:24:38 No.24574613 Report

Quoted By: >>24575904

>>24574576
there are wayyy more bugs than that. volcarona, mega pinsir, mega scizor/regular scizor, mega heracross

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 20:24:54 No.24575394 Report

Quoted By: >>24575459

>Give duskulls entire line more HP, and Dusknoir more attack so he isnt an inferior dusclops.
>make mega banette a normal evo instead of a mega
> buff shadow punch to 80bp
> lower knock offs base damage to 40

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 20:43:48 No.24575459 Report

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>>24575394
all dusknoir needs is shadow tag

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 21:10:43 No.24575629 Report

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>>24572446

Make Will-o-Wisp never miss when used by Ghost-types, like they did for Toxic with Poison-types

Yeah, Will-o-Wisp is a Fire-type move, but it's more associated with Ghost-types

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Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 21:48:20 No.24575904 Report

Quoted By: >>24576354

>>24574595
>>24574613
>BL mons are OU now
lolno. BL is a containment tier for UU, similar to Ubers being a containment tier for OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 23:05:49 No.24576331 Report

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>>24572446
>19 FE/single stage Ghost types (including legendaries but not megas)
>2 in ubers
>2 in OU
>3 in UU/BL2
That's not bad to be honest.

No buffs to Ghost type, fuck that shit. You can nerf Knock Off though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 23:09:26 No.24576354 Report

Quoted By: >>24576507

>>24575904
They aren't OU by usage, but the only tiers where you can use them are OU and Ubers, so they're pretty much on par with them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 23:41:25 No.24576507 Report

Quoted By: >>24576514

>>24576354
But they aren't. Look at usage stats. A Pokemon like Hawlucha (BL) literally gets less uasge than many UU and under 'mons, such as Amoongus or Politoed. There are of course good 'mons in BL, like Volcarona, but not all of them are " pretty much on par".

Now watch Amoongus rise to OU by the end of the day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 23:43:09 No.24576514 Report

Quoted By: >>24576536

>>24576507
He means on-par in competitive performance, not in usage.

But you knew that, fuckstain.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 23:46:45 No.24576536 Report

Quoted By: >>24580999 >>24581204

>>24576514
>Usage =/= Viabilty

Come on anon. If those BL 'mons were good in OU they wouldn't be BL. Klefki, Manaphy and Weavile made it out of there because of meta shifts or people only just finding out how good they are.

There is no way in hell you are going to tell me that Crawdaunt is on the same level as Mega Gyarados. That's because it isn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 06:31:30 No.24578383 Report

Quoted By: >>24584021

>>24572446

>Dusknoir

stat rearrangement, more HP, and a better ability and give it Fighting type

>Jellicent

dunno.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 06:34:27 No.24578390 Report

Quoted By: >>24578402

>>24574576
Nope. If any type is unappreciated, it's Grass. It's one of the three main starters types and yet TPC has an irrational bias against it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 06:37:50 No.24578402 Report

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>>24578390

I don't think it's that, it's just that Grass isn't as easy to market as Fire or Water

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 19:00:49 No.24580999 Report

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>>24576536
>If those BL 'mons were good in OU they wouldn't be BL
They're better than stuff that's currently OU, tho.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 19:38:35 No.24581204 Report

Quoted By: >>24584047

>>24576536
>usage=viability

fuck off senpai

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Nov 2015 02:41:11 No.24584021 Report

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>>24578383
>dusknoir
>ghost/fighting
I'm getting hard just thinking about that

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Nov 2015 02:44:35 No.24584047 Report

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>>24581204
Not completely, but they do correlate. If it's gud, people will use it. If it isn't, they won't. This only doesn't really apply to Megas because of the limit, but most everything else does.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Nov 2015 02:57:55 No.24584148 Report

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the reason we don't have ghost types is because Knock Off is 50% of the metagame.

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