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Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 14:26:54 No.24573585 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>24573636 >>24573697 >>24573700 >>24573896 >>24574096 >>24574514 >>24574748 >>24577019 >>24577049 >>24577775 >>24577785 >>24577812 >>24577831 >>24578404

Why is Pokken Tournament failing?

http://mynintendonews.com/2015/10/20/japan-pokken-tournament-being-pulled-from-arcades-due-to-unpopularity/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 14:29:24 No.24573591 Report

Quoted By: >>24573604

>posting old news
>posting news that have been disproven

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 14:30:55 No.24573596 Report

Quoted By: >>24573613 >>24574092

Because people were,for some reason, under the mistaken impression that it would be a tournament viable fighting game and not a casual party game with very little depth

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 14:33:49 No.24573604 Report

Quoted By: >>24573618 >>24573630 >>24573658 >>24574270 >>24577785 >>24578740

>>24573591
>>posting old news
I never come around here nor do I follow Pokemon news that much in general.

>>posting news that have been disproven
Show me what disproves it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 14:35:50 No.24573610 Report

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>Pokken
>Not Pokemon Kombat

You had one job

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 14:37:13 No.24573613 Report

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>>24573596
It ought to have some tournament viability if the word 'Tournament' is in it's title.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 14:39:19 No.24573618 Report

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>>24573604
too lazy to link, just look for it in neogaf thread or serebii twitter

tl;dr it's only one arcade store (who was already downsizing) and Pokken is currently the third most-successful arcade machine

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 14:41:59 No.24573630 Report

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>>24573604

It's one arcade and Pokken is currently the third-most popular arcade machine in all of Japan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 14:43:01 No.24573636 Report

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>>24573585
You tried

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 14:49:13 No.24573658 Report

Quoted By: >>24573671

>>24573604
http://www.am-j.co.jp/

Literally kill yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 14:52:21 No.24573671 Report

Quoted By: >>24573691

>>24573658
>Literally kill yourself.
no

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Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 15:00:11 No.24573691 Report

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>>24573671

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Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 15:03:10 No.24573697 Report

Quoted By: >>24573701 >>24573896 >>24575433 >>24575445 >>24575471 >>24576621 >>24576817

>>24573585
the turn off for me was the lack of a roster. You have 700+ mons to choose from, at least expand the roster to 25-30.

give us those fighting types who were born for this game. Hitmonchan, Gallade, Scrafty, Toxicroak, Chesnaught.

sticking with fan favorites like charizard and lucario is just the safe bet and shows that they're worried about the game succeeding, and not willing to take way too much risk in making a fighting game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 15:05:30 No.24573700 Report

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>>24573585
>MyNintendoNews

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 15:05:59 No.24573701 Report

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>>24573697
This. It looks like they want varied gameplay instead the same boring ass "fighting styles" that a thousand other games have. I mean what other games let you play as a freezing quadruped? Who wants that, let's just play as the same fucking boxer guy another damn time.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 15:06:03 No.24573702 Report

Quoted By: >>24573916

For those who care, a leak has shown Pokken (along with DDR2014 and NeonFM) is part of Dave and Buster's Winter game collection. They will probably start popping up in December.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 15:54:04 No.24573896 Report

Quoted By: >>24574108 >>24577078

>>24573585
>MyNitnendoNews

>>24573697
>You have 700+ mons to choose from

I want this meme to die.

If you exclude 90%+ of Irrelevant NFE mons and a lof of shit like Vanilluxe, Omastar. Muk, Fortress, Ferrothorn, Butterfree, Dugtrio, Dewgong, AND A SHIT TON MORE Pokemon that simply won't fit with how the game play, you're extremely far from having 700 Pokemon to choose from, yet along 250 probably.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 15:59:38 No.24573916 Report

Quoted By: >>24573936

>>24573702
Where'd you find this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 16:05:13 No.24573936 Report

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>>24573916
It's been making its way around various DDR forums. They're from an employee at a Texas D&B who are getting the machines in late November. The location test on those games went well enough to start letting locations order the machines.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 16:38:41 No.24574092 Report

Quoted By: >>24574254 >>24574262

>>24573596
Why would I pay for a party game in an arcade? If the game's shitty and only good for quick fun and I have the option to play something that actually does have thought into it, I'm going to go with the latter. Besides, like the other anon said, if you're going to call it "Tournament" it should have some tournament depth.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 16:39:32 No.24574096 Report

Quoted By: >>24575406

>>24573585
>within the next 15 years there will be a traditional Pokemon RPG game but with this battling style

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 16:40:55 No.24574108 Report

Quoted By: >>24574501 >>24574535

>>24573896
Suicune doesn't fit but it's there somehow, if you can make Suicune work you can probably make a lot of shit work. And surely there are enough viable choices that you don't need TWO PIKACHUS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 17:08:33 No.24574254 Report

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>>24574092
It's tournament because the game is about Pokemon fighting in a tournament.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 17:10:43 No.24574262 Report

Quoted By: >>24574372

>>24574092
>If the game's shitty and only good for quick fun and I have the option to play something that actually does have thought into it, I'm going to go with the latter.
The thing about fighting games with depth is that you're likely never going to see any of the depth unless you play it religiously. Pokken is just a game that's fun to play with friends at the arcade.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 17:13:21 No.24574270 Report

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>>24573604
>Show me what disproves it.
The author is a confirmed Sony shill, and this news covers only a single arcade. The title is literally just clickbait.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 17:43:39 No.24574372 Report

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>>24574262
I don't think any of my friends would be willing to go to an arcade, I can barely get them to play local co-op anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 18:05:47 No.24574501 Report

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>>24574108
Suicune is a strange choice but it fight with water and its ribbons for close-range. Without those it's just about as bad as shits like Tauros, Stantler and most of the things I mentioned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 18:07:21 No.24574514 Report

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>>24573585

>One arcade

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Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 18:10:55 No.24574535 Report

Quoted By: >>24574562

>>24574108

The only reason Suicune works is because it has those ribbon-tails to grab and do melee attacks with.

Unless they have something like that, most of the roster is going to be bipeds, because this is a fighting game, which bipeds are inherently more suited for.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 18:16:05 No.24574562 Report

Quoted By: >>24574787

>>24574535
Well personally I think Samurott would be suited for a fighting game

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 18:49:01 No.24574748 Report

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>>24573585
Bait article/counter shill thread?
https://games.yahoo.com/news/pokemon-killing-nintendo-203038043.html

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 18:53:21 No.24574787 Report

Quoted By: >>24575406

>>24574562
This.
We need a Yoshimitsu type character.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 18:57:46 No.24574807 Report

Quoted By: >>24575355 >>24575596

>TWO (2) Pikachus
>no Raichu

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Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 20:15:49 No.24575330 Report

Quoted By: >>24575442

so is this devil gene mewtwo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 20:19:00 No.24575355 Report

Quoted By: >>24575514

>>24574807
Who's Raichu again

a fan made Pika clone?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 20:28:34 No.24575406 Report

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>>24574787
>Yoshimitsu type character
what do you mean by that?

>>24574096
>traditional Pokemon RPG game but with this battling style
oh god no although i welcome a Pokemon RPG by Bamco

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 20:37:45 No.24575433 Report

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>>24573697
There will be at least 20 playable characters judging by the current roster size, likely more since they've shown they can expand the box at will.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 20:40:56 No.24575442 Report

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>>24575330
Corrupted Mega Mewtwo X, known as Dark Mewtwo.

That thing lodged in their is probably a Mega Stone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 20:42:10 No.24575445 Report

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>>24573697
>sticking with fan favorites like charizard and lucario is just the safe bet and shows that they're worried about the game succeeding
you can't be this hipster

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 20:46:39 No.24575471 Report

Quoted By: >>24576605

>>24573697
Considering how much work goes into making and balancing even 10 characters, wasting that effort on 25 when the game won't even sell is definitely not something they want to waste time on just because you want to see your hipster choice in the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 20:54:03 No.24575514 Report

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>>24575355
it's dedenne's evolution

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 21:05:13 No.24575596 Report

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>>24574807

No one wants to play as Bubsy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 23:57:00 No.24576605 Report

Quoted By: >>24577208 >>24577227 >>24586545

>>24575471
Sm4sh has over 50 characters and most of them are well-balanced. It's ironic because both Sm4sh and Pokken were developed by Namco.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 23:59:46 No.24576621 Report

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>>24573697
To be fair, we did get some strange choices like Weavile and Suicune, so not all the characters are fan-favorites. I'm surprised we haven't gotten Greninja yet, considering how much TPC has been dickriding it, lately.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 00:43:37 No.24576817 Report

Quoted By: >>24576825

>>24573697
Pretty much all Fighting types can fit in the game very well. We need to be more creative and somehow think of how a Bug or even a Flying type could fit in there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 00:46:16 No.24576825 Report

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>>24576817
We already have Charizard as a flying type though. xD

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Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 01:24:44 No.24577019 Report

Quoted By: >>24577184

>>24573585
Pokken Tournament is failing because John Cena isn't playable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 01:31:15 No.24577049 Report

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>>24573585
>mynintendonews
>being a remotely noteworthy website
kekking so hard

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 01:37:08 No.24577078 Report

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>>24573896
>let me make a list of pokemon who are more realistic fighters than Suicune and Gengar
pfft
PFFFFTT

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 02:05:45 No.24577184 Report

Quoted By: >>24577210

>>24577019
Who?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 02:11:45 No.24577208 Report

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>>24576605
And it's also the 4th in the series, with the majority of those characters having appeared before. Also, it's had patches resulting in the better balance, vanilla Diddy and Shiek were fucking nuts.

Pokken is a new IP, with new builds for the fighters, in a unique structure of fighter. This literally happens with almost every fighting game, ever.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 02:11:50 No.24577210 Report

Quoted By: >>24577216

>>24577184
I don't blame you. I keep googling him and getting this

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 02:14:05 No.24577216 Report

Quoted By: >>24578755

>>24577210
Are you sure that's not Kellam?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 02:17:46 No.24577227 Report

Quoted By: >>24577711

>>24576605
>Sm4sh has over 50 characters and most of them are well-balanced.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 04:00:15 No.24577711 Report

Quoted By: >>24577748

>>24577227
They are. Almost nobody is good so that makes them all good (and the ones that are good, great).

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 04:03:47 No.24577728 Report

Quoted By: >>24577734 >>24577748

Because Tekken is fucking horrible.

They should just have made a Smash Bros Pokemon spinoff, where the entire roster is Pokemon and it has unique mechanics exclusive to Pokemon, like type weaknesses, 3x3 switches, moveset editing, etc, just with Smash Bros gameplay.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 04:04:46 No.24577734 Report

Quoted By: >>24578415 >>24578467

>>24577728
Except the gameplay in Pokken is more like Naruto. Even worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 04:07:59 No.24577748 Report

Quoted By: >>24577758

>>24577711
>Almost nobody is good so that makes them all good
you mean it makes them bad

>>24577728
>They should just have made a Smash Bros Pokemon spinoff
>not a traditional 2D fighting game
>and it has unique mechanics exclusive to Pokemon, like type weaknesses
fuck that shit
>3x3 switches
KOF? Mahvel?
>moveset editing, etc, just with Smash Bros gameplay.
but Sm4sh does that

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 04:10:32 No.24577758 Report

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>>24577748
"Good" and "bad" are relative. What's bad in Melee is better in Smash 4 due to the lower skill ceiling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 04:13:34 No.24577775 Report

Quoted By: >>24577821

>>24573585
>single arcade does that
>burgers spread news world wide like everywhere is doing it
>repost it again every day to look like there's more people doing that when it's still the same news

This kind of misinfo post belongs to >>>/v/

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 04:15:40 No.24577785 Report

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>>24573604
>>24573585

the worst is not your shill but that newfags actually fell for it and tried to find explanations to something that never happened

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 04:22:37 No.24577812 Report

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>>24573585

The only time I saw worst clickbait shilling than this was when they tried to make a news that wiis would burn down your houses because some redneck ruined his and blamed the videogame without proof or logic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 04:24:58 No.24577821 Report

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>>24577775
what's funny is that the exact /v/ thread before was debunked quite early one and everyone instead posted for roster wishes

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 04:28:17 No.24577831 Report

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>>24573585
>arcades
that's why

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 05:08:44 No.24578045 Report

Quoted By: >>24578119 >>24578184 >>24578467 >>24582162

>failing
As shitty as that article is, and as stupid as OP is for posting it, I'm not some Pokken apologist and anyone else who has a brain in their skull can see this game is gonna shit the bed for two reasons;
>lackluster roster
>fucking 3D Naruto shit like holy fuck what are you doing niggers

They could easily have everyone shitting themselves with hype if they just dropped a couple more popular mons that aren't already being shilled. Sales would go through the roof if they would just hit us with Sceptile, Electivire, the Hitmons, Dragonite, etc. Guys that they know people like, but aren't the same old same old.

Just dump like five more popular Pokemon in this that we don't see coming a mile away and everyone will fucking love it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 05:28:18 No.24578119 Report

Quoted By: >>24586503

>>24578045
I just don't get how Namco could fuck up so hard. They also helped develop Sm4sh, and that game is great, minus the lack of Single-player modes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 05:46:39 No.24578184 Report

Quoted By: >>24578195

>>24578045
>Guys that they know people like, but aren't the same old same old.
That's the problem, though. Namco doesn't know which Pokémon are popular but aren't the same old fan favorites.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 05:48:46 No.24578195 Report

Quoted By: >>24578204

>>24578184
>Namco doesn't know which Pokémon are popular
almost the entire roster is filled with popular Pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 05:50:08 No.24578204 Report

Quoted By: >>24582442

>>24578195
Did you read the last part (but aren't the same old fan favorites)? I'm talking about Pokes that aren't very popular but are still popular enough to warrant being included in this game, such as Sceptile.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 06:38:54 No.24578404 Report

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>>24573585
Because you touch yourself at night.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 06:41:46 No.24578415 Report

Quoted By:

>>24577734

I've played several of the Naruto games, and I can tell you that Pokken isn't very similar to them either

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 07:01:24 No.24578467 Report

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>>24578045
>As shitty as that article is, and as stupid as OP is for posting it
And you're another addition to the list of fucking retards who STILL insist the game will have only 10 characters on final release. Watch the gameplay videos instead of repeating retarded bullshit ad infinitum.
>>24577734
It's unique in that there are two phrases, a field phase which plays like naruto, and a close range phrase which plays like traditional 2D fighter. Overall I was pretty iffy when I first heard of it myself but gameplay videos have completely sold me over. I just hope it gets more Pokemon that arent the same marketing whores everyone is bored of. Suicune and Weavile were a good start.

http://youtu.be/iVmrZkA3YU8

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 08:23:53 No.24578740 Report

Quoted By: >>24579136

>>24573604
>I never come around here nor do I follow Pokemon news that much in general.
Then don't act like you know shit, retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 08:31:40 No.24578755 Report

Quoted By:

>>24577216
What's a Kellam? Never heard of him. now before you say goolge him, Google doesn't turn up anything either

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 10:57:50 No.24579136 Report

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>>24578740
>Then don't act like you know shit, retard.
All I did was ask a question, dumbshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 21:50:37 No.24582162 Report

Quoted By: >>24582384

>>24578045
>Implying they aren't going to add more characters (Although they are slow as fuck on it so far)
>They are not allowed to make 3D fighters because I said so

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 22:27:07 No.24582384 Report

Quoted By: >>24586223 >>24586497 >>24586532

>>24582162
Pokken will always be shitty because Hawlucha was robbed in broad daylight in favor of another shitty Pikachu.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 22:36:49 No.24582442 Report

Quoted By: >>24582506

>>24578204

>Sceptile
>Popular

No one gives a shit about Sceptile, it's a nobody

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 22:48:12 No.24582506 Report

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>>24582442
>No one gives a shit about Sceptile, it's a nobody
Oh. Is that why it was one of Ash Ketchum's main powerhouses in the anime? Is that why Sceptile will have a significant role in the upcoming XY&Z arc? Clearly people do give a shit about it, shitposter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 23:04:40 No.24582595 Report

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Give arceus a mega evo so the literal god of pokemon can be the strongest again. I don't care about how overpowered it would make him, I just want the most powerful being in the pokemon world to be the most powerful being in the pokemon world.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Nov 2015 13:14:29 No.24586223 Report

Quoted By: >>24586467

>>24582384
>The game is bad because m-muh bromon is not playable

kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Nov 2015 15:10:06 No.24586467 Report

Quoted By: >>24586527

>>24586223
He is right thought

It was a really stupid decision and waste of priceless slots, considering how few characters it had

just shows how much devs dont care about this game, if they really wanted those special snowflake pikachus they'd did it like mortal kombat 10 version of characters
i'd rather see surfing and flying desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Nov 2015 15:29:03 No.24586497 Report

Quoted By:

>>24582384
Pikachu Libre's moveset is completely different to Hawlucha's.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Nov 2015 15:29:59 No.24586503 Report

Quoted By:

>>24578119
>lack of single player modes
>has the most

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Nov 2015 15:36:22 No.24586527 Report

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>>24586467
>graphics make the game rather than mechanics and playstyles
Lucha-chu is an entirely new character and plays differently from from the one that was already in the game.
Deeming a game as all around shit just because a skin of your relatively unknown "bro" didn't make it in is just plain retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Nov 2015 15:37:43 No.24586532 Report

Quoted By: >>24586534

>>24582384
Hawlucha still has a chance to get in

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Nov 2015 15:40:04 No.24586534 Report

Quoted By: >>24586562

>>24586532
>wanting a Lucha-chu clone

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Nov 2015 15:43:19 No.24586545 Report

Quoted By:

>>24576605
>Sm4sh developed by Namco

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Nov 2015 15:43:34 No.24586546 Report

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http://youtu.be/wixmMXrbmEc
Dark Mewtwo's super. I'm getting some serious Golden Sun vibes from that one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Nov 2015 15:48:53 No.24586562 Report

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>>24586534
Lucha-Chu mainly utilizes Electric attacks like Electroweb and Shock Wave, as well as some iconic Pikachu moves like Double Team, so I doubt Hawlucha would be merly a clone.

By the way, the recent balance patch really mixed things up. Gengar is now considered a top tier character, while Luchachu went from slow, weighty shitter to combo-boosting demon of doom.

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