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Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 17:36:30 No.24574346 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>24574373 >>24574457 >>24574610 >>24574672 >>24574709 >>24574857 >>24575016 >>24581144 >>24584687

>Mega Lucario gets Inner Focus (fuck it, it's already pretty good)
>Mega Gallade gets Iron Fist (or something else if you have a better suggestion)
>Mega Houndoom gets Adaptability
>Mega Steelix gets Arena Trap
>Mega Evolution now works as if the Pokemon consumes the item (meaning Acrobatics does 110 damage and Unburden activates) - Mega Sceptile and Mega Aerodactyl just got better
>Ampharos now learns Wish
>Glalie now learns Hyper Voice
>Banette now learns Play Rough
>Audino now learns Softboiled
What would change?

Also, tweak a mon just a bit to make it a bit better thread, I guess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 17:43:42 No.24574373 Report

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>>24574346
Mega Audino now gets Fur Coat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 17:58:15 No.24574457 Report

Quoted By: >>24574559

>>24574346
Most of these are pretty good

>Remove Mega Gardevoir's useless attack boost and put it for 110 speed and 75 Defense or just 85 defense

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 18:15:40 No.24574559 Report

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>>24574457
honestly i was thinking just 75 on both attack and defense to not make it too overpowered

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 18:23:55 No.24574610 Report

Quoted By: >>24574622 >>24577986

>>24574346
>>Mega Evolution now works as if the Pokemon consumes the item (meaning Acrobatics does 110 damage and Unburden activates) - Mega Sceptile and Mega Aerodactyl just got better
when exactly would the items be consumed? sceptiles unburden wouldnt activate if during the Mega evolution

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 18:26:34 No.24574622 Report

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>>24574610
lets say it does then, fuck you f︂︂a︂m t︂b︂︂h s︂︂m︂h

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 18:35:51 No.24574672 Report

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>>24574346
most of those are good especially the banette one. i need more coverage and it makes sense

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 18:42:09 No.24574709 Report

Quoted By: >>24574813

>>24574346
>Mega Evolution now works as if the Pokemon consumes the item
>pokemon with bestow and leftovers become a staple in literally every defensive team

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 18:59:11 No.24574813 Report

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>>24574709
>as if
It's not meant to be exactly the same. They still carry the Mega-Stone, they can't be Knocked Off, Bestowed, Tricked, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 19:06:03 No.24574857 Report

Quoted By: >>24574903 >>24574906 >>24586332

>>24574346
>>Ampharos now learns Wish
>not tail glow

inb4 that one guy comes up and preaches about japanese names

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 19:12:59 No.24574898 Report

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>Mega Gallade
Hyper Cutter, Defiant, or Justified
>Mega Lucario
Justified
>Mega Audino
Regenerator

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 19:13:54 No.24574903 Report

Quoted By: >>24575000

>>24574857
ampharos doesn't really need a boosting move m8. it already hits hard enough (165 special attack is uber level ffs), but it's slow and sorta bulky, what it really needs is a way to get health back

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 19:14:36 No.24574906 Report

Quoted By: >>24574916 >>24586332

>>24574857
>>Ampharos now learns Tail Glow
>Not Shell Smash, Quiver Dance, etc.

inb4 that one guy comes up and preaches about logic/flavor/balance

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 19:16:20 No.24574916 Report

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>>24574906
>ampharos now learns shell smash, quiver dance, etc.
>not a move i just came up with that gives it +6 special attack and +6 speed with no costs

inb4 that one guy comes up and preaches about general common sense

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 19:23:00 No.24574965 Report

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Give Linoone Knock Off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 19:27:50 No.24575000 Report

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>>24574903
It just seems odd that the pokemon that has a light right on its tail can't use the move that refers to a light on a tail.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 19:29:42 No.24575016 Report

Quoted By: >>24575028

>>24574346
>Banette now learns Play Rough
I've got something better:
>Prankster activates on the turn of Mega Evolution

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 19:30:50 No.24575023 Report

Quoted By: >>24575028

Blastoise can learn Slack Off. Mega Launcher boost Hydro Pump and Hydro Cannon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 19:31:39 No.24575028 Report

Quoted By: >>24575035 >>24586234

>>24575000
you already have an amazing mega, why do you care this much

>>24575016
thanks for ruining mega sableye

>>24575023
how about just a special event mega blastoise with origin pulse and that's it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Nov 2015 19:33:11 No.24575035 Report

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>>24575028
Not bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 03:53:28 No.24577681 Report

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shameful bump

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2251-7580-2262 Mon 02 Nov 2015 04:56:00 No.24577986 Report

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>>24574610
maybe it fuse with the pokemon like in the anime where alain´s charizard transform into edgyzard it lose his megastone and when it get back to regular zard it get it back search the regular zard to see where it has his megastone

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 05:03:33 No.24578023 Report

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>>24577681
Go to your room

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 13:37:43 No.24579517 Report

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>>24578023
w-why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 19:03:49 No.24581015 Report

Quoted By: >>24581031 >>24581087

What about my bro, Aggron?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 19:07:24 No.24581031 Report

Quoted By: >>24581044

>>24581015
Now gets slack off

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 19:09:24 No.24581044 Report

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>>24581031
Why can't life be like this

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 19:11:05 No.24581053 Report

Quoted By: >>24581128

What about my bro Sceptile

And Heracross?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 19:18:30 No.24581087 Report

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>>24581015
We need a recovery move for Steel types in general.
Call it something along the lines of Reweld, or Paintjob.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 19:27:43 No.24581128 Report

Quoted By: >>24581179

>>24581053
Unburden like I said in the OP
Heracross doesn't really need anything, if anything just a Speed boosting move, though I can't really see any fitting to well with it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 19:29:46 No.24581144 Report

Quoted By: >>24581178

>>24574346

So here's why this doesn't work:

Mega Gallade has fantastic stats, type and movepool. It was designed around having a niche ability, like Garchomp, rather than relying on it like Talonflame.
Adaptability does not work thematically for Houndoom. It's for Pokemon that "adapt." Dragalge and Crawdaunt get it because they use camouflage and batesian mimicry, respectively. Basculin adapted two different forms, Feebas can live in polluted water, Porygon is a program, etc. Much like Technician, it naturally works for any fighting type, despite only Mega Luc having it. Houndoom just doesn't fit.
Steelix should Magnet Pull, which fits its design and deals with balloons.
Glalie does not learn any sound moves, so Hyper Voice especially makes no sense.
Play Rough makes sense thematically, but a more useful move would be Me First.

I'd say Milk Drink makes more sense for Ampharos, because sheep's milk (Gogoat gets it, i.e. goat's milk). But Wish definitely fits its pivot role better.

The rest are fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 19:35:31 No.24581178 Report

Quoted By: >>24581209 >>24581223

>>24581144
>It's for Pokemon that "adapt."
So dogs don't adapt? We have hundreds of breeds. We've taken them everywhere on this planet. They're the most present species apart from us. Even Lucario gets it. Why not the other dog?

>Steelix should Magnet Pull, which fits its design and deals with balloons.
It's another solid option.

>Glalie does not learn any sound moves, so Hyper Voice especially makes no sense.
What does this even mean

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 19:35:34 No.24581179 Report

Quoted By: >>24581194

>>24581128

Sceptile does not need more speed. It already outspeeds everything sans priority and this doesn't change that. What it needs is a reliable boosting move like Growth, or another nuke like Draco Meteor, which Charizard and Ampharos would also have to get as a formality (the latter would benefit a lot).

Heracross desperately needs Drain Punch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 19:37:02 No.24581194 Report

Quoted By: >>24581239

>>24581179
>It already outspeeds everything sans priority and this doesn't change that.
Except Mega Aerodactyl, the one mon making it so shitty right now besides Talonflame.

And Mega Heracross is fine right now. It was banned from UU for a good reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 19:40:03 No.24581209 Report

Quoted By: >>24581224

>>24581178

I somehow neglected that Houndoom is a dog.

It means that Glalie does not use its voice at all. Hyper Voice is for Pokemon with strong voices. For example it would be good for Mega Pidgeot, but because Pidgeot is not a songbird it does not get any voice moves. This thematic shit is deliberate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 19:42:03 No.24581223 Report

Quoted By: >>24581234

>>24581178
>dogs don't adapt?

That's right, we breed them for specific purposes. They don't adapt that extremely on their own

Mega Heracross could just use a visual redesign and it's solid

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 19:42:06 No.24581224 Report

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>>24581209
I guess you're right. Glalie is based on a mask, right? Masks don't have throats.
Growth is a great option for Sceptile, actually. How come I didn't think of that. It's even based on a lizard/gecko that can let it's tail loose, so of course it can grow it back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 19:43:06 No.24581234 Report

Quoted By: >>24584580

>>24581223
Except wild dogs and wolves live both on deserts and snowy cold places, and even indian jungles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 19:44:26 No.24581239 Report

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>>24581194

Aero deals with a lot of high rank threats. That's not what's holding it back. It's the fact that it's both fragile and has no way to boost its mediocre offense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 19:46:16 No.24581254 Report

Quoted By: >>24581257

Give Adaptability to Brendan because humans too adapted to the world

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Nov 2015 19:47:17 No.24581257 Report

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>>24581254
Brendan is NU shit anyway, might as well give it as much as it can get.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Nov 2015 03:49:53 No.24584493 Report

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Regigigas gets Huge Power.

Fuck even Pressure and call it a day.

Anonymouse

Anonymouse Tue 03 Nov 2015 03:54:18 No.24584530 Report

Quoted By: >>24584564 >>24586208

> nope
> Hell, anything that's not Stall or Florges' abilities is better for Mega Gallade
> Yup
> Doesn't make sense, give it Magnet Pull
> YES
> Why does Ampharos learn Wish?
> Yea ok, this is acceptable
> NICE
> Doesn't have an egg, fool

Why did you change Mega Lucario's ability? It's good as it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Nov 2015 03:55:37 No.24584538 Report

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>Metagross learns Shift Gear

pls I want my bro to be good again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Nov 2015 03:59:35 No.24584564 Report

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>>24584530

Clefable doesn't have an egg either but it learns Softboiled via FRLG tutor.

Anonymouse

Anonymouse Tue 03 Nov 2015 04:02:15 No.24584580 Report

Quoted By: >>24586570

>>24581234
Not Houndoom now, does it?

It lives in the depths of volcano and other hot places.

Sinnoh's retarded placing of Houndor is just one of the many reasons it's shunned. Why does a fire-breathing hell dog lives in a rainy swamp?

Lucario's a fighting type, and like that anon said, it adapts, gradually learning its opponents moves and strategically knowing how to beat it, not to mention it can sense auras.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Nov 2015 04:03:43 No.24584588 Report

Quoted By: >>24584626

>Infernape learns Drain Punch + Bullet Punch

inb4 OU

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 03 Nov 2015 04:05:31 No.24584607 Report

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>Pic Related gets Flamethrower, Earth Power or Shadow Ball
>Instantly Ubers

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Nov 2015 04:08:24 No.24584626 Report

Quoted By: >>24584640 >>24584647 >>24584650

>>24584588
Why the fuck would it use Bullet Punch?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Nov 2015 04:10:40 No.24584640 Report

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>>24584626
Aerodactyl

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Nov 2015 04:11:43 No.24584647 Report

Quoted By: >>24584818

>>24584626
Why not?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Nov 2015 04:11:51 No.24584650 Report

Quoted By: >>24591636

>>24584626
fairy killing

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Nov 2015 04:18:47 No.24584687 Report

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>>24574346
Aerodactyl doesn't learn Acrobatics, or a Curse/White Herb set would be viable.

Anonymouse

Anonymouse Tue 03 Nov 2015 04:18:57 No.24584689 Report

Quoted By: >>24584806 >>24586500 >>24586581 >>24588128 >>24589718

Metagross > Shift Gear
Garchomp > Dragon Dance
Salamence, Altaria, Pinsir, Sylveon, and Gardevoir > Hyper Voice and Extreme Speed
Lucario > Dragon Dance
Gengar > Nasty Plot and Aura Sphere
Blaziken > V-Create
Kyogre > Earth Power
Groudon > Heat Crash and Wood Hammer
Rayquaza > V-Create
Deoxys
- Attack form gets Iron Fist
- Defense form gets Magic Bounce
- Speed form gets Speed Boost
- Normal form gets Protean

Empoleon > Competitive instead of Deviant
Reshiram, Zekrom, and Kyurem > Earthquake and Earth Power

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Nov 2015 04:26:29 No.24584725 Report

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>Meloetta gets tri attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Nov 2015 04:40:44 No.24584806 Report

Quoted By: >>24586587

>>24584689
>"lets make all the OP mons even more OP" the post

Lets fix shit that needs fixing like the Regis
>All Regis get Recover
>Regirock with Regenarator
Its' Pokedex entry mentions it repairs itself by attaching rocks it finds around the world
>Regice with Heatproof and Stealth Rocks
Pokedex says it can survive being dipped in magma.
>Registeel with Magic Guard
Pokedex says its studier than any kind of metal and it cannot be "scratched"
>Regigigas with Protect and Rest.
Let it keep Slow Start since thats part of its gimmick it just needs a way to stall for time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Nov 2015 04:42:33 No.24584818 Report

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>>24584647
OP said to tweak a mon to make it better. Bullet Punch in no way makes Ape better

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Nov 2015 05:06:50 No.24584937 Report

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Articuno gets quiver dance and/or calm mind. Gets a mega with serene grace

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Nov 2015 13:03:58 No.24586208 Report

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>>24584530
>> Doesn't make sense, give it Magnet Pull
>seriously suggesting Arena Trap doesn't make sense for a thing so big it has its own gravitational field
>> Doesn't have an egg, fool
Neither does clefable, where are you going with this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Nov 2015 13:13:35 No.24586221 Report

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I just wanted Mega Lucario to have Mega Launcher.
An ability for his core gimmick and he doesn't even get it in any way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Nov 2015 13:18:55 No.24586234 Report

Quoted By: >>24586244 >>24586550 >>24586592 >>24591694

>>24575028
Origin Pulse is not boosted by Mega Launcher. ML boosts only the Pulse and Aura moves that Blastoise can get (Dragon, Dark, Water, Heal and Aura Sphere) and thus Clawitzer

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Nov 2015 13:20:52 No.24586238 Report

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i'd really like kingler a lot more if it had waterfall, gunk shot, and dragon dance

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Nov 2015 13:23:36 No.24586244 Report

Quoted By: >>24586253

>>24586234
I think it does get boosted because it has hado in its Japanese name.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Nov 2015 13:28:16 No.24586253 Report

Quoted By: >>24586550 >>24591743

>>24586244
Inject it :^) and try, I think it's not. The ability is hand coded to work with given attacks, it doesn't detect the name nor there is a flag that says it is a "pulse move"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Nov 2015 14:11:09 No.24586332 Report

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>>24574857
>>24574906
>no Gear Grind

inb5 meme eme mem emem mem suck my cock memes

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Nov 2015 15:29:34 No.24586500 Report

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>>24584689
Some of the mons you listed already get those moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Nov 2015 15:45:16 No.24586550 Report

Quoted By:

>>24586234
>>24586253
actually i think it has already been proven it does boost though

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Nov 2015 15:50:48 No.24586570 Report

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>>24584580
>It lives in the depths of volcano and other hot places.
uh no. it lives in rocky mountains (sinnoh) and urban areas (kanto and unova)
>Why does a fire-breathing hell dog lives in a rainy swamp?
lolwut
it lives in the mountain route connecting veilstone to a lakefront area and in valor lakefront (not rainy nor swampy at all)
>it adapts, gradually learning its opponents moves and strategically knowing how to beat it
sounds like some made up bullshit to be honest. who's to say a fire dog can't adapt either?

fuck off with your clearly misinformed and bullshitty post

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Nov 2015 15:54:03 No.24586581 Report

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>>24584689
>wood hammer groudon
lolwut. why.jpg
>earth power kyogre
i thought the whole point was that groudon was the one that controlled the earth, while kyogre controlled the sea

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Nov 2015 15:57:26 No.24586587 Report

Quoted By: >>24591625

>>24584806
i think the reason why regigigas doesn't learn rest is because it just awoke from a giant one. kinda why snorlax can't learn slack off either. they can only go real deep, or no deep at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Nov 2015 15:58:27 No.24586592 Report

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>>24586234
yes it does idiot

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 03 Nov 2015 20:55:00 No.24588128 Report

Quoted By: >>24588139 >>24588148 >>24588309

>>24584689
Why the fuck would deoxys-a get iron fist?
It doesn't even have hands.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Nov 2015 20:57:04 No.24588139 Report

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>>24588128
But it has tentacles, the tips of them could get hard and shiny.

I think I've seen something like that before.

Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy

Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy Tue 03 Nov 2015 20:58:13 No.24588148 Report

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>>24588128
He means it figuratively.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Nov 2015 21:31:18 No.24588309 Report

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>>24588128
with those tentacles he can iron my fist all he wants, if you know what i mean

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Anonymous Wed 04 Nov 2015 01:59:46 No.24589688 Report

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>Scizor now gets Gear Grind and Shift Gear
>Aggron now gets Shift Gear and Recover
>Blastoise is now Water/Steel and gets a 110 bp special Steel move and Recover
>Gyarados now gets 130 sp.atk

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Nov 2015 02:05:25 No.24589718 Report

Quoted By: >>24591610

>>24584689
>Not giving Deoxys-A Competitive

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Nov 2015 09:45:10 No.24591591 Report

Quoted By: >>24591613

>shedinja's wonderguard now has magic guard built in
>scizor now gets crabhammer

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Nov 2015 09:51:55 No.24591610 Report

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>>24589718
Sheer Force fits better imo since it sacrifices defense for attack power. fuck additional effects

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Nov 2015 09:53:02 No.24591613 Report

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>>24591591
>Crabhammer Scizor
Fuck you Talonflame

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Nov 2015 09:58:49 No.24591625 Report

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>>24586587
Hmmm, never thought of it that way. It does make since.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Nov 2015 10:02:12 No.24591636 Report

Quoted By: >>24591725 >>24591926

>>24584650
Fairies would take more damage from Flare Blitz. 40 x 2=80 vs 120. Bullet Punch doesn't do shit for Ape.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Nov 2015 10:22:42 No.24591694 Report

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>>24586234
It does, just like iron fist boosts meteor mash but nothing with the ability gets that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Nov 2015 10:38:00 No.24591725 Report

Quoted By: >>24591926

>>24591636
Actually with Iron Fist its 96 vs 120
It would hit Diancie pretty hard, but thats about it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Nov 2015 10:51:15 No.24591743 Report

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>>24586253
You don't even need to inject to know you're wrong. Get a Blastoise with Mimic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Nov 2015 12:47:06 No.24591926 Report

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>>24591636
>>24591725
You mean 120 x STAB = 180.

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