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Anonymous Mon 09 Nov 2015 17:21:09 No.24619533 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>24619540 >>24619545 >>24619554 >>24619560 >>24619732 >>24620980 >>24621183

is defeatist/truant/slow start even necessary now with all the power creep?

Give them shit abilities at least, Slaking gets tangled feet, Archeops gets keen eye and Regigigas gets illuminate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Nov 2015 17:22:15 No.24619540 Report

Quoted By: >>24619550

>>24619533
Are Gen 1 stat spreads even necessary now with all the power creep?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Nov 2015 17:23:24 No.24619545 Report

Quoted By: >>24619591

>>24619533
>Regigigas gets illuminate
Just give it Pressure or something, even then it might still be in OU at best.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Nov 2015 17:24:02 No.24619550 Report

Quoted By: >>24619574 >>24620935

>>24619540
you are missing the point
gen 1 mons can get megas, but i doubt gamefreak will ever give a mega to these 3 because they have good stats, its just the ability that hinders them

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Nov 2015 17:25:01 No.24619554 Report

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>>24619533
Give regi stall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Nov 2015 17:26:23 No.24619560 Report

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>>24619533
>is defeatist/truant/slow start even necessary now with all the power creep?
No.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Nov 2015 17:27:57 No.24619566 Report

Quoted By: >>24619573

Regigigas has a Primal Reversion and gets huge power.
Regigas' Primal Reversion is triggered if it is in a party with Regice, Regirock and Registeel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Nov 2015 17:28:10 No.24619567 Report

Quoted By: >>24620939

slow start for slaking, which is actually good since it has protect, rest and substitute
clear body or pressure or mold breaker for regigigas
early bird for archeops for obvious reasons

all of them hidden abilities even only. how did i do?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Nov 2015 17:30:02 No.24619573 Report

Quoted By: >>24620942

>>24619566
I'd like this. Something overpowered as fuck, but has a decent trade-off since the other 3 Regis are shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Nov 2015 17:30:05 No.24619574 Report

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>>24619550
those three can get megas as well you know

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Nov 2015 17:30:59 No.24619583 Report

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>>24619574
i doubt it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Nov 2015 17:32:25 No.24619591 Report

Quoted By: >>24619604 >>24619608 >>24619718 >>24619726

>>24619545
Not, it wont.

Even with the starts, Regigigas have a shitty movepool almost to the level of a fucking weedle. No coverage, no setup, no anything.

Slaking and Archeops, on the other hand, would be deadly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Nov 2015 17:34:45 No.24619598 Report

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>>24619583
can =/= will

Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy

Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy Mon 09 Nov 2015 17:36:36 No.24619604 Report

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>>24619591
Return, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Thunder Punch, Earthquake, Drain Punch, Superpower, Knock Off, Zen Headbutt, Heavy Slam, Stone Edge.

Wow, that might just be the worst coverage I've ever seen. Even worse than Unown. Wow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Nov 2015 17:37:18 No.24619608 Report

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>>24619591
you are really underselling regigigas. with that bulk and access to stuff like knock off and thunder wave, it's a bulky sweeper. sub+focuspunch deals massive damage unboosted, and it has good coverage with stuff like the elemental punches, drain punch, earthquake, zen headbutt. it even gets rock polish if you want an extra option.
regigigas is more like a moltres (but without the 4x weakness to rock) than an articuno

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Nov 2015 18:03:57 No.24619689 Report

Quoted By: >>24620565

>>24619604
Fuck off underage nigger

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Anonymous Mon 09 Nov 2015 18:11:54 No.24619718 Report

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>>24619591
>dat 160 atk
>Regigigas used Return
That's all it really needs.

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Anonymous Mon 09 Nov 2015 18:13:54 No.24619726 Report

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>>24619591
>thunder wave
>substitute
>confuse ray

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Nov 2015 18:14:51 No.24619732 Report

Quoted By: >>24619784 >>24621460

>>24619533

Slaking has base 160 Attack, base 100 speed, and a 670 BST, on par with most box legendaries.

Truant is the only thing that's kept it out of Ubers for all these gens.

The idea behind Slow Start is flavor. Regigigas has been asleep for so long that it takes a while for it to get into the groove.

Defeatist doesn't really hamper Archeops as much as the other two abilities. It's frail, and should be using Roost when it's in Defeatist range anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Nov 2015 18:26:25 No.24619784 Report

Quoted By: >>24619860 >>24621689

>>24619732
It will truly get into the groove when it gets rid of the moss and gets a mega without suffering from having a hindering ability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Nov 2015 18:44:49 No.24619860 Report

Quoted By: >>24619959 >>24621689

>>24619784
doesn't even have to be a mega, just a stat redistribution like shaymin has. actually it doesn't even need that, it only really needs a different ability

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Nov 2015 19:08:08 No.24619959 Report

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>>24619860
Yeah, just changing its ability could make it a low uber tier Pokemon as it should be. Hopefully one day when it does get a mega evolution it will truly shine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Nov 2015 21:31:03 No.24620565 Report

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>>24619689
Not even him but great comeback faggot, he proved you wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Nov 2015 23:04:13 No.24620935 Report

Quoted By: >>24620947 >>24620956

>>24619550
>tfw no slaking mega that just puts him to sleep for the entire match

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Nov 2015 23:05:47 No.24620939 Report

Quoted By: >>24620942

>>24619567
>Not wanting to make a stall team where 4/6 members are weak to fighting

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Anonymous Mon 09 Nov 2015 23:06:51 No.24620942 Report

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>>24619573
Sorry that was meant for you

this post
>>24620939

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Anonymous Mon 09 Nov 2015 23:08:05 No.24620947 Report

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>>24620935
S-Stop that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Nov 2015 23:09:59 No.24620956 Report

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>>24620935
>tfw no auto-rest ability where slaking can just switch into status and abuse sleep talk every time

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Anonymous Mon 09 Nov 2015 23:18:27 No.24620980 Report

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>>24619533
regigas was from the get-go a stupid idea to hinder with ability. It's a fucking legendary, let it be as strong as one!
regarding archeops and slaking, I personally think they are kinda fine as are because they are both found in their respective games quite early and are suppose to be somewhat high risk high reward. Archeops defiantly falls under this category but slaking not so much...
I would be very comfortable with both of them getting additional hindering ability like klutz. offensive archeops is fine with that as he commonly carries acrobatics anyways and slaking would become somewhat usable, not like now being completely shut down by protect

>pic unrelated

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Nov 2015 23:56:53 No.24621183 Report

Quoted By: >>24621254

>>24619533
New Item. Suppressite.
Cancels the ability of the holder. Can be tricked and knocked off.
Done. They become pseudo Megas. Except for I guess Archeops which could use the item.

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Anonymous Mon 09 Nov 2015 23:59:34 No.24621196 Report

Quoted By: >>24621262

>Mega Slaking
>Stats don't change
>Gets bland ability like Keen Eye
>All that changes visually is he stands upright

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Nov 2015 00:15:00 No.24621254 Report

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>>24621183

Archeops is worse with the item because it can't use Acrobatics

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Anonymous Tue 10 Nov 2015 00:16:11 No.24621262 Report

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>>24621196
>Slaking stands up

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Anonymous Tue 10 Nov 2015 00:22:43 No.24621295 Report

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Archeops is a fine Pokemon the way it is. It's better than Carracosta, better than Aurorus, and better than the Gen 4 and 3 fossils. Why should it get special treatment?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Nov 2015 01:02:43 No.24621460 Report

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>>24619732
You can't afford to lose a turn to recover HP with Archeops. It's a Pokémon that would be lucky to survive 2 hits, let alone surving after taking SR damage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Nov 2015 01:30:51 No.24621618 Report

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>>24621254
Yeah I was saying it could use a better item since it's not hindered as much by the ability. Flying Gem for one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Nov 2015 01:45:59 No.24621689 Report

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>>24619860
>>24619784
Youre aware that Regigigas has a similar BST to Groudon and Kyogre, both of which have a "Primal Reversion" form that "returns them to their ancient power" ...
Im a bit disappointed ORAS didnt give us Primal Regigigas but we'll get it come the Diamond and Pearl remakes instead, I guess. Along with a third Giratina form thats even stronger than Origin

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