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>>24650603
literally just 80-85% accuracy Focus Blast. Maybe throw a few more fast special attackers out there

Special attackers don't have to deal with Burn, Intimidate, or consequences of contact so they're not strictly worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Nov 2015 22:45:08 No.24650625 Report

Quoted By: >>24650647 >>24650669 >>24651733

>>24650606
Brett...
I'm already at +4 and stealth rocks within turn 5.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Nov 2015 22:47:55 No.24650647 Report

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>>24650625
you don't even need +4 if rocks are up

>+2 252+ Atk Technician Mega Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Mega Charizard Y: 146-172 (49.1 - 57.9%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Nov 2015 22:50:14 No.24650665 Report

Quoted By: >>24650744

>>24650574
By posting Scizor you answered your own question.

Priority

Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy

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Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy Sat 14 Nov 2015 22:50:52 No.24650669 Report

Quoted By: >>24650732

>>24650625
I thought you were +6 in every stat and I was -6 in every stat and all hazards are up (including Sticky Web) and all my pokemon are paralyzed and you've got Tailwind, Safeguard, Mist, Reflect, Light Screen, and Trick Room up and you completely missed the point of my post, by the way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Nov 2015 22:53:59 No.24650692 Report

Quoted By: >>24653077

Distribute more Quiver Dance to specials.
or make a new "Dragon Dance - Special Edition: The Move".

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Nov 2015 22:58:16 No.24650717 Report

Quoted By: >>24650757

Scald

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Nov 2015 23:01:06 No.24650732 Report

Quoted By: >>24651348 >>24652534 >>24653075

>>24650669
More like he's got his +4 Mega Scizor with Rocks up, whilst you're stuck with six Luvdisc because you can't figure out how to evolve them into Alomomola.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Nov 2015 23:02:39 No.24650744 Report

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>>24650665
This.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 14 Nov 2015 23:04:42 No.24650757 Report

Quoted By: >>24652833

>>24650717

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Nov 2015 23:05:45 No.24650764 Report

Quoted By: >>24650819 >>24650829

With the intimidate and wisp spam you're saying that attack is the best stat in the game?

That's a good one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Nov 2015 23:06:05 No.24650766 Report

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Include a couple more Psyschock variants

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Nov 2015 23:13:06 No.24650819 Report

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>>24650764
physical attackers being so much better is exactly the reason why we have these things in the game, also notice that there's no need for a special counterpart
and even with burns and intimidate to tone them down, they still remain superior

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Nov 2015 23:13:21 No.24650829 Report

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>>24650764
It would easily be Speed if it weren't for priority moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2015 00:13:12 No.24651153 Report

Quoted By: >>24651229

Why did the beams and fire blast type moves get nerfed in base power when close combat exists?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2015 00:22:45 No.24651186 Report

Quoted By: >>24651220

We need more Special priority moves with a better distribution than vacuum Wave. As it stands, Vacuum Wave is only ever usable on special Mega Luke and is being given to physical attackers that all have better options.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2015 00:33:03 No.24651220 Report

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>>24651186
Special variants of Infernape can use effectively Vacuum Wave.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2015 00:35:09 No.24651228 Report

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>>24650574
Get rid of Assault Vest and return Special Attacks to their normal power. I have no idea why GameFreak did this when Chansey/Blissey are already a thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2015 00:35:26 No.24651229 Report

Quoted By: >>24651239 >>24651242

>>24651153
Because Game Freak is so shit at balancing that they STILL thinking Special Attacks are broken. Also I don't get why Groudon and Rayquaza received a 120 BP STAB while Kyogre received a 110 BP.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2015 00:38:54 No.24651239 Report

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>>24651229
>Primordial Sea

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2015 00:40:08 No.24651242 Report

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>>24651229
Precipice Blades isn't boosted by sun, neither is Dragon Ascent by any weather. However Origin Pulse gets the 1.5x boost under heavy rain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2015 00:50:53 No.24651284 Report

Quoted By: >>24651291

Removing chansey/blissey is literally all that needs to be done

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2015 00:52:34 No.24651291 Report

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>>24651284
What does that solve?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2015 01:01:01 No.24651348 Report

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>>24650732
There's also a huge cock stuck in his ass because he's a faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2015 01:09:18 No.24651387 Report

Quoted By: >>24651687

HP > Atk > Spe > Spa > Def > Spd

Shit HP is always bad
Good HP is always good
Middling HP is always middling

HP is the most important.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2015 02:29:03 No.24651687 Report

Quoted By: >>24651697

>>24651387
So Wigglytuff and Wailord amazing and can tank hits like nobody's business then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2015 02:33:09 No.24651697 Report

Quoted By: >>24651722 >>24651735 >>24652468

>>24651687
They can tank hits, this is a thing they can do. They aren't frail.

Problem is they can't do anything else. That's their problem.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2015 02:39:47 No.24651722 Report

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>>24651697
What do you mean?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2015 02:41:42 No.24651733 Report

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>>24650625
>6v6 singles

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2015 02:42:05 No.24651735 Report

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>>24651697
>Wigglytuff
>Tanking

Okay... Made me laugh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2015 05:40:02 No.24652438 Report

Quoted By: >>24652464

Best stat in the game is HP. Your pokemon would faint without it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2015 05:45:23 No.24652464 Report

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>>24652438
This
How else are wobbufett and blissey viable

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2015 05:46:25 No.24652468 Report

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>>24651697
problem is, thats their problem

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2015 05:50:28 No.24652489 Report

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No, speed is still the most important stat in the game. Speed has the most impact on whether a pokemon is good or not. Out of any single stat i mean, obviously. Every stat can be played around but if you have bad speed you better have a crapload of other options or good niches to make up for that. The dominance of priority highlights importance of speed, of going first. And no you retarded faggot, being extremely fast doesn't make a pokemon better, it just has to outspeed certain pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2015 06:08:12 No.24652534 Report

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>>24650732
#rekt

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2015 07:19:00 No.24652790 Report

Quoted By: >>24652887

>>24650574

Remove Fat Blobs.

But idk anon, Physicals gotta deal with rough skin+rocky helmet most of the time, spammable burns like scald and WoW, intimidate, predictable coverage for most physical mons, steel types from the top of my head.

Speed stat is best stat BTW

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2015 07:31:01 No.24652833 Report

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>>24650757
Sounds sexy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOxSbNv4psI

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2015 07:44:23 No.24652887 Report

Quoted By: >>24653081

>>24650574
There is no single best stat.
>wailord is shit with great HP and shit everything else
>rampardos is shit with great Atk and shit everything else
>torkoal is shit with great Def and shit everything else
>beheeyem is shit with great Spa and shit everything else
>mantine is shit with great SpD and shit everything else
>ninjask is shit with great Spe and shit everything else

Typing and movepool also play a role. But a single good stat alone does not a good pokemon make.
That being said speed is the best.

>>24652790
>steel types
Physical beats steel with EQ and fighting moves. Are you daft? Hardly fuckall special attackers have access to ground and fire coverage, hidden power is piss weak and focus blast is meme tier, also not everything has that.
Otherwise correct.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2015 08:56:12 No.24653064 Report

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>>24650574
Make 120 base special moves with recoil/stat drops
I mean, pretty much every physical fighting type relies on Close Combat, every physical flying type who has access to Brave Bird will use it, physical electric with Wild Charge, fire and Flare Blitz, so on and so on.

Imagine a wilder-based 120 special psychic move with recoil. Mega Alakazam is suddenly relevant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2015 09:00:25 No.24653075 Report

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>>24650732
I'm dead

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2015 09:00:45 No.24653077 Report

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>>24650692
Dragon Song, lad

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2015 09:01:54 No.24653081 Report

Quoted By: >>24653089

>>24652887

What unites those defensive Pokemon is that they have no recovery.

>Skarmory is great with great Def and shit everything else
>Blissey is great with great SpD and shit everything else
>Chandelure is great with great SpA and shit everything else

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Nov 2015 09:04:13 No.24653089 Report

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>>24653081
>Skarmory is great with great Def and shit everything else
typing
>Blissey is great with great SpD and shit everything else
um
>Chandelure is great with great SpA and shit everything else
passable bulk and scarf worthy speed

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