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Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2015 21:05:29 No.24665522 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>24665531 >>24665622 >>24665646 >>24666756 >>24666973 >>24668626 >>24669285 >>24670622 >>24675191

There is no reason to think that Dewott isn't better than Samurott in every way
I would ask to prove me wrong, but there is no way to do that

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2015 21:07:13 No.24665531 Report

Quoted By: >>24665624 >>24668961

>>24665522
>bipedal
>better
Quadrupeds move faster than bipeds you stupid fuck and they have better balance and less pressure on their spines.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2015 21:12:53 No.24665551 Report

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prove me that you're right

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2015 21:31:17 No.24665622 Report

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>>24665522
Samurott has better coverage in Megahorn and better stats, Dewott only has a better design.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2015 21:32:03 No.24665624 Report

Quoted By: >>24666684

>>24665531
autism speaks

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2015 21:33:35 No.24665634 Report

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Samurott looks cool, Dewott is ugly as shit.

Source : My shit taste

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2015 21:34:47 No.24665636 Report

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They're both fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2015 21:37:43 No.24665646 Report

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>>24665522
Dewott is a cool mid-stage, but when it evolved into Samurott for the first time, it was Awesome.
Dewott looks like fixed Oshawott, which is a bit ugly in my opinion, but Samurott is my fave in the line.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 17 Nov 2015 21:51:19 No.24665742 Report

Quoted By: >>24666777

Official dex entries:
>"One swing of the sword incorporated in its armor can fell an opponent." "Its cry alone is enough to intimidate most enemies."

I'd like to see Dewott pull that off with it's non-threatening cry and it's puny Scalchops. And the worst part of it is, 2 Oshawotts together can basically do the same thing Dewott does as it's nothing but a slightly bigger Oshawott with 2 Scalchops. Dewott is heavily reliant on dual-welding to make a difference whereas Samurott usually needs a single seamitar swipe to put the hurt on it's opponents. Did I forget to mention that it also has a intimidation factor going for it?

Samurott is objectively more interesting, badass, and significantly powerful than it's pre evo. The only redeeming thing about Dewott's existence is that it balances the other two by the sharing the samurai motif from Samurott and the otter characteristics from Oshawott.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2015 00:34:57 No.24666684 Report

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>>24665624
>knowing shit = autsim
nice meme, m'anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2015 00:46:00 No.24666756 Report

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>>24665522
ebin

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2015 00:49:33 No.24666777 Report

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>>24665742
>pokedex entries

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2015 00:49:59 No.24666781 Report

Quoted By: >>24666788 >>24668648 >>24670462 >>24670478

>Turtle with fluffy tail and ears becomes turtle with cannons
>Okay

>Otter that uses seashells as swords becomes bigger otter with real swords
>OMG RUINED FOREVER!!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2015 00:51:00 No.24666788 Report

Quoted By: >>24666962 >>24668717

>>24666781
>bigger otter
this is just a hunch but you might be retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2015 01:20:55 No.24666962 Report

Quoted By: >>24669300

>>24666788
> Samurott
> Samurai+otter
> Being this retarded

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2015 01:22:23 No.24666973 Report

Quoted By: >>24666988

>>24665522
Samurott's ass is better

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2015 01:25:39 No.24666988 Report

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>>24666973
They're both fantastically underappreciated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2015 06:30:36 No.24668626 Report

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>>24665522
The burden of proof lies with the person pulling lies out their ass

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2015 06:38:14 No.24668648 Report

Quoted By: >>24668789

>>24666781
Wartortle and Dewott both have better designs than their final evos why the fuck did they change them completely IT MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE OH MY NARDS

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2015 07:07:12 No.24668717 Report

Quoted By: >>24668731 >>24670478

>>24666788

Otter with seashell > Otter with two seashells > Otter with swords

It continues the samurai theme of its pre-evolutions.

The only thing that's somewhat off is that it's a quadruped that can stand on its hind legs when it's holding its swords instead of a full biped like the previous two stages.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2015 07:11:46 No.24668731 Report

Quoted By: >>24668775 >>24669221

>>24668717
>Otter
Objectively wrong
>It continues the samurai theme
And completely abandons the otter theme, making it some sealion/whale hybrid and removing the shells, replacing them with patches of chiton and magic size-changing swords.
>The only thing that's somewhat off
Aside from its bulbous topheavy head, "fins" that are neither adapted for swimming nor for holding things, six total limbs and general total failure of design, you mean?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2015 07:33:57 No.24668775 Report

Quoted By: >>24668784

>>24668731
>>objectively not an otter
I sure can take your opinion seriously when you claim that it's a whale instead. I'm just as sure Samurott stands on its limbs just like a sea lion or a whale can, rather than an otter.
I'm sure sea lions and whales can stand just like Samurott can.
>>abandons the shell theme
>immediately lists another mollusk
>implying any of the armor and weapons Samurott has isn't based on other kinds of mollusks
>>Aside from its bulbous topheavy head, "fins" that are neither adapted for swimming nor for holding things
>implying this is any different from Oshawott and Dewott

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2015 07:38:44 No.24668784 Report

Quoted By: >>24668823

>>24668775
>whales
>standing
Your argument falls flat from there.

...Though I still consider it more otter than sea lion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2015 07:39:55 No.24668789 Report

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>>24668648
>Wartortle to Blastoise doesn't make sense
>aging minogame that shoots water from its shell developing siphons in its shell to propel more water out of its shell doesn't make sense
>the presence of siphons filtering the same matter that would be present on a minogame as they take in and propel water doesn't make sense

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2015 07:50:53 No.24668823 Report

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>>24668784
You're not good at sarcasm, are you?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2015 08:56:25 No.24668961 Report

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>>24665531

Yeah, this totally matters in a game about magical creatures.

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Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2015 11:07:20 No.24669221 Report

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>>24668731
>replacing them with patches of chiton
You mean the closest seashells that resemble samurai armor? The whole thematic point of the line? So a design aspect trying to highlight one of the main concepts of a character design is a bad thing now?

>magic size-changing swords.
They're supposted to be Pen shells. And the main reason Samurott doesn't fight with Scallop shells is because Pen shells are the closest seashells that can resemble actual shell blades. As Razor Shell japanese is called "Shell Blade". You have the previous 2 who use ordinary-seashells like blades and final form who fights with literal shell blades. A natural progressional change that is only failed to be noticed by whinybabies like you all because the actual design doesn't meet your expectations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2015 11:32:52 No.24669285 Report

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>>24665522
ebin

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2015 11:37:43 No.24669300 Report

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>>24666962
Yeah and vespiqueen is a wasp xD

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2015 18:00:22 No.24670462 Report

Quoted By: >>24670696

>>24666781
I can guarantee you that Samurott will be worshipped to death if it was the Gen 1 water starter. People would look past its differences from the pre evos and would look at the positives of the design. Blastoise in comparison is less consistent as an evolution but has heavy 2 decade old nostalgia going for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2015 18:04:38 No.24670478 Report

Quoted By: >>24670599

>>24666781
Because Blastoise at least still has the same fuckin body shape and it's easily recognizable as a Wartortle evolution. Cannons are an extension of its water blasting ability. It's not completely out of place.

>>24668717
Except it looks nothing like an otter so it's fucking ruined.

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Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2015 18:26:13 No.24670599 Report

Quoted By: >>24670614

>>24670478
Whats wrong with otters becoming seals anyway? Didn't early seals looked identical to modern otters? The previous two probably aren't even otters, but are seals in disguise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2015 18:28:49 No.24670614 Report

Quoted By: >>24670868

>>24670599
>Whats wrong with otters becoming seals anyway?

It's not aesthetically pleasing and being a quadruped awkward shitty seal does not fit a sword fighting Pokemon.

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Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2015 18:29:29 No.24670622 Report

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>>24665522
ebin

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2015 18:42:51 No.24670696 Report

Quoted By: >>24670788 >>24670809 >>24670839 >>24670946 >>24671847 >>24672350

>>24670462
If Samurott and Emboar were on the cover of Red and Blue I can guarantee you Pokemon would have failed. In fact extend that to the entire Gen V dex in place of the Gen I one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2015 18:56:15 No.24670788 Report

Quoted By: >>24670916 >>24673133

>>24670696
Nobosy complained about designs back in gen 1

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2015 19:01:39 No.24670809 Report

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>>24670696
No gen 1 is adored to retarded levels because its the first generation so any gen would have worked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2015 19:08:38 No.24670839 Report

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>>24670696
Moot point

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Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2015 19:14:28 No.24670868 Report

Quoted By: >>24670886

>>24670614
>shitty seal does not fit a sword fighting Pokemon
It pulls it off just fine to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2015 19:20:08 No.24670886 Report

Quoted By: >>24670966

>>24670868
No it doesn't. That looks awkward all fuck. Dogs can stand on two legs too. But that doesn't mean they should.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2015 19:29:55 No.24670916 Report

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>>24670788
people still complain about dragonite to this day

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2015 19:37:40 No.24670946 Report

Quoted By: >>24671792 >>24673133

>>24670696
>monsterous, detailed game mascots don't work
>unless it's Venusaur
>families that add on a major design aspect at the very last stage don't
work for game mascots
>except for Charizard and Blastoise

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Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2015 19:42:28 No.24670966 Report

Quoted By: >>24670975 >>24673133

>>24670886
Whatever man. Samurott really isn't as that bad final evo as you think it is. Its rather interesting evo that enhances the samurai shell armor theme and weaponry and doesn't go for the "just gets bigger route". To me I think its a misunderstood badass and suffers from having a poorly animated sprite in the generation it was introduced.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2015 19:46:47 No.24670975 Report

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>>24670966
I'd rather have just gets bigger route than goes full retard route

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2015 22:21:02 No.24671792 Report

Quoted By: >>24671894

>>24670946
Giant Flower on a dinosaur/toad. Cool.
Fire dragon. Cliche but cool.
Tortoise with water cannons. Coolest thing ever.

Sorry, I'm failing to see where the Gen V starters compare. Heck, only gen 3 had good enough starters to actually rival gen 1, and even then I would wish I could replace Swampert with Blastoise or Greninja for the box art because Swampert wouldn't sell Blue version at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2015 22:30:09 No.24671847 Report

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>>24670696

Nice meme.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2015 22:36:34 No.24671894 Report

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>>24671792
Your argument is just describing a pokemon and adding the word "cool" at the end of it. This can literally be applied to any pokemon.

At what point does a pokemon become "cool?"
How can pokemon not be "cool?"
Tell me how your post is remotely a rebuttal and not subjective drivel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Nov 2015 23:58:35 No.24672350 Report

Quoted By: >>24673133

>>24670696
Gen 1 litteraly has zero attractive waifus and little monsters with originality.
Gen 5 would easily be a bigger hit if it was the first. Can you imagine the number of Meloetta porn if it was from gen 1? First gen seriously deserved better designs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Nov 2015 02:24:53 No.24673133 Report

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>>24670946
>Look mum, I described something, that makes it good!

>>24670788
I don't even think the Gen I starters are that good. But they worked for the time and they worked as mascots.

>>24670966
That looks dumb as hell.

>>24672350
Waifufaggotry wouldn't work 20 years ago. It only picked up steam in pokemon in Gen III.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Nov 2015 09:23:00 No.24675191 Report

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>>24665522
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