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Imagine, if you will, what would happen if Gen 1 was remade today>Oak no longer studies Pokemon, instead studies mega evolution >Oaks aides hand you mega stones instead of key items >all dialogue is changed >all gym layouts are changed, easier puzzles >rival is mildly annoying instead of douchey, gracious when he wins and constantly praises you >new rival is pc player didn't pick, same shit as above >old man pokemon catching tutorial is required, takes at least five minutes >rival gives you mega ring in pewter city, right after brock >Columbia reference removed again >game corner completely cut, rocket hideout is in some warehouse instead >you defeat team rocket alongside your rivals with the power of friendship >safari zone replaced with friend safari and daycare >safari warden just gives you Surf >seafoam isle now covered in ice tiles >halfassed attempt to make mewtwo more relevant to the plot, same buildup as box legendaries >mewtwo now has own event, complete with cutscenes and tons of exposition from npcs >mewtwo can now be caught before elite 4 >no postgame content, just some story about you and your rivals that ends with foreign pokemon and legendaries becoming catchable in kanto >sevii islands dont return >still no battle frontier
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>>24709608 >>safari zone replaced with friend safari and daycare Net gain Tbh.
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>>24709608 How the hell would they make Brock's gym easier
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>>24709689 Lvl 8 geodude
Lvl 11 onix
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>>24709689 By straight up telling you that his rock types have super low special defence so you can still ember them to death.
Because that's what I always do, and somehow people think that isn't a valid strategy.
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>>24709608 >policeman stops you if you try to leave cerulean before beating Misty >digglet cave is caved in and can't be gone through until you beat Surge >it doesn't matter anyway because Flash is given to you just outside of rock tunnel >a bunch of goons stop you from leaving lavender until you do the first part there >Erika gives you Fly when you beat her >no more old lady/tea in celadon, instead the guards won't let you into saffron until you deal with team rocket >the whole surf route and mistfoam islands south of Fuchsia are now blocked by psyducks and cant be accessed until postgame >also you just get given surf and strength, no safari zone needed >telephone calls after every gym to tell you where to go next >the whole area south of Lavender connecting to Fuchsia is gone because the multiple pathways were confusing, replaced with a postgame battle resort >Gary fight in the elite four dumbed down, his starter is always stuck at the second evolution >kids on /vp/ scream at you for being a genwunner if you say you liked FRLG more Anonymous
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>>24709608 >>all gym layouts are changed, easier puzzles As opposed to what? Annoying shit like Sabrina or Lt. Surge's gyms? Good riddance, they aren't challenging they are just fucking annoying, especially Surge's. But yeah dude all those other challenging puzzles like that totally invisible wall in Koga's gym or those tree's you had to cut in Erika's.
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>>24710209 Stop with the annoying = challenging meme already. By your braindead logic nothing is challenging.
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>>24710216 No, annoying isn't challenging, it's annoying. But those are the closest Gym puzzles to "Challenging" in the games. What, Blaine's super easy quiz? Giovanni's move tile things? The literally nothing in Brock and Misty's gym? Koga's totally invisible walls? None of that is challenging and some aren't even puzzles.
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>>24710216 >Defending Surge's gym Surge's gym is completely randomized though. Depending on where the first switch is placed, you have a 25%-50% chance of hitting the second switch without having to find the first switch again.
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>>24710216 >Stop with the annoying = challenging meme already. Are you illiterate?
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>>24710231 >It's annoying to use my brain Anonymous
>>24710216 Surge's Gym is literalyl RNG, there's no challenge to it, that's annoying. Sabrina's gym is more of a challenge but it's nothing really "challenging". It's either draw out a map or try really hard to remember what tiles take you were or get frustrated. I wouldn't say either of them are challenging.
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>>24710244 >Using your brain >Surge's Gym Nigga what? Sabrina's sure, there's some level of actually using your brain but that's the only one.
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>>24710216 Something you actually need to work to complete, use your brain, etc is challenging. Randomized trash cans then another randomized trash can near it isn't challenging.
I can see why some people would think Sabrina's gym is frustrating but it's the only legitimately "challenging" gym in all of Kanto.
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>>24710231 >Blaine's super easy quiz? -No 6 year old ever
But luckely you're almost 15 now.
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>>24710244 For what? Randomized puzzles? Step on the tiles until you get it right or draw out a map? Is this what the people who play Pokemon call "using your brain"?
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>>24709608 Does anyone else hate how shit /vp/ has become in this period? Look at these threads coming up over and over again every day.
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>>24710250 >>24710248 >>24710245 Sabrina's gym is psychic type, so it makes sense to force the player to use its brain.
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>>24710252 They're yes or no questions and if you answer wrong you get to battle a trainer. And nothing stops you from going to the Pokemon Center after a battle. No 6-year old would have trouble with it.
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>>24710252 Yes, you're right anon. None of the kids who played the games knew there were 8 gyms, or that caterpie evolved into Butterfree. Oh no, they got it wrong? Well then obviously it's a tough puzzle, how will they solve it? Oh they just have to do a battle now instead? Fuck! How challenging!
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>>24710255 Better than pokefucker and waifu threads.
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>>24710264 Are you retarded? As a kid you can't complete the whole fucking game if you don't let them pass.
That is NOT GOOD. Because it is a game mainly FOR KIDS. Understand?
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>>24710259 And that's the reason why it's the only gym in Kanto that has a remotely challenging puzzle. Anons can go on about how Surge's RNG puzzle is challenging or Blaine's quiz that can be totally skipped anyway is challenging, but that's just wrong.
>>24710252 The only one I had trouble with when I first played Blue (I was actually 6) was Surge's. I just skipped the questions in Blaines since I could battle instead.
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>>24710272 Obviously. But that doesn't make it a challenge like OP suggested Gen 1 gyms were.
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>>24710253 >Step on the tiles until you get it right or draw out a map? That's exactly how I play chess.
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>>24710274 Agreed. By the end of the day it is all GF's fault not to implement an option where you can choose the difficulty.
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>>24710275 And I'm totally willing to admit there's a challenge to Sabrina's gym, but there isn't to the others.
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>>24710273 >The only one I had trouble with when I first played Blue (I was actually 6) was Surge's. I just skipped the questions in Blaines since I could battle instead. I answered most the questions and then battled anyway.
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>>24710248 Sabrinas gym is not hard tho. If you land up, go down and vice versa. Always worked and no battles in between
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>safari zone replaced with Friend Safari >sevii islands dont return >still no battle frontier
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>>24709608 >>24710195 >forgetting Oak gives you a gen 6 style Exp Share with the pokedex that can't be deactivated >forgetting The Magikarp Guy now gives you a max IV random natured level 19 at 100 exp from leveling Magikarp for free because he sees the friendship with your pokemon >forgetting Forever Alone Day Care Man gives you a Destiny Knot on the first visit and a Lucky Egg for every pokemon you leave with him >forgetting that clearing Nugget Bridge gives 50 Big Nuggets >forgetting the bike is merely handed to you as a means of promoting the business >forgetting listening to the Pokemon Club President automatically boosts all your pokemon by 5 levels per ramble >forgetting Snorlax simply joins your party because you make friends with it >forgetting the unidentified Ghosts are now purple so as to not imply black people are spooks >forgetting Spookmaster Marowak now senses the deep unbreakable friendship between you and the Gastly you just caught one step prior and lets you pass without the Sylph Scope >forgetting Giovanni gives you his Kangaskhan, both Nidoking and Nidoqueen, and Rhyperior with their mega stones after each defeat because of your deep friendship with pokemon and people alike >forgetting Gamefreak turning Misty and Sabrina into Mysti and Sab'riwanda by making them black to remove the stereotypes that blacks can't swim and are dumb as fuck Y'all niggas slipping
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>playing pokemon for the story
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>>24709689 >Rock Tomb removed >Bind removed >Harden removed >Defense Curl removed >both pokemon literally only knows Tackle Anonymous
>>24710999 And what Pokemon gym that you know is like that in recent games?
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>>24709608 AH AHHH AHHH STOP
THIS IS TOO ACCURATE
>exp share right after viridian forest Anonymous
>>24711020 >20 BP STAB >against your 60 BP STAB Quacklin' Anonymous
>>24709608 >tfw things were different than they were seventeen or whatever years ago Imagine, if you will, what would happen if Gen 1 was made today:
>Not a glitchy mess >Not on a difficult-to-see-anything Game Boy >Online play that doesn't require a little link cable that was only a few feet long >Wider pool of moves and Pokémon >Abilities, held items, physical/special split >Psychic-types aren't nearly unstoppable Anonymous
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>>24711051 Now back up and compare this to using Squirtle to take down Brock. Which one's harder?
Farfetch'd took some effort to obtain, at least. Also, ignoring Infestation's trapping effects and passive damage is pretty dumb.
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>>24709608 (OP)>tfw things are different than they were seventeen or whatever years ago Imagine, if you will, what would happen if Gen 1 was made today:
>Not a glitchy mess >Not on a difficult-to-see-anything Game Boy >Online play that doesn't require a little link cable that was only a few feet long >Wider pool of moves and Pokémon >Abilities, held items, physical/special split >Psychic-types aren't nearly unstoppable Anonymous
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>>24711060 Your favorite pokemon wouldn't even exist
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>>24710525 It's not funny if it's not believable. Your Magikarp, bike, and Snorlax lines were realistic.
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>Lance heals your team right before the fight with Blue, who has five Pokémon >mewtwo isn't angry, it's sad because it doesn't understand friendship and joins your party by mandatory capture right before the Viridian gym >your "friend" Blue and multiple gym leaders talk about how you remind them of a prophecy about a special trainer who will catch the legendary birds >Giovanni heals your team before you fight him in Rocket HQ >"my Machop is stomping the land down here to make way for something called a Battle Frontier :^)" >unskippable, badly translated dialogue scenes in most towns exploring Blue and Oak's relationship >SS Anne removed entirely
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>>24709608 our childhood is dead.
move on
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>>24713623 >since Saffron is a big city with lots of confusing exits, Sabrina directly walks you to the next town after you beat her >instead of trashing the couple's house in Cerulean, the Rocket Grunt wants to steal their Earthquake TM. Fortunately, you arrive just in time to stop him, and the couple are so grateful that they give you the TM as thanks Anonymous
>>24710195 I miss sequence breaking. Even in gen 2, you could choose to go to Olivine or Mahogany after Morty.
Hell, I just got done with Final Fantasy 1, and after the first third of the game, you can do whatever you want.
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>>24710525 >>24711184 I laughed at his black commentary Tbh
f.am Anonymous
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>>24713706 Being able to sequence break was great, I always got the order for Sabrina and Koga mixed up and battled them in a different order every time I played the gen 1 games. I also forgot to fight Brawly in gen 3 and didn't realise I had missed him until I went to fight Norman fun times.
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>>24713623 Don't forget, Blue's Pokemon don't have 4 full moves
