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http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/np-oras-ou-suspect-process-round-5-run-the-jewels-check-post-168.3556762/
should Sablenite or Shadow Tag be banned
>"I'm tired of people looking at STag as needing to be "broken". It's getting quite annoying how often that word gets thrown around. Everyone has this mindset that a Pokemon needs to sweep teams with little to no effort in order to be banned. Not every suspect needs to be Mega Salamence people. I've been advocating for this suspect for YEARS, and everyone always shoots it down because "it's not broken". Well, you're right, these Pokemon cannot 6-0 teams, so I can't argue that. However, it is as noncompetitive as you can possibly get in this game, aside from stupid hax. Removing all control from the opponent is fucking stupid, simple as that. When you remove a key aspect to the game, there is a VERY clear cut problem. Preventing the opponent from switching and getting guaranteed Kills or severely hampering the One Pokemon on the opponents team that threatens you to your liking, is stupid. It's not even remotely difficult to do either. We should be trying to make the game as competitive as humanly possible (which gets harder and harder to do each Generation). We are suspecting Shadow Tag as an ability, because Shadow Tag as an ability is noncompetitive in nature. If something is noncompetitive and removes all autonomy from the player, it is pretty obvious what should be done. Regardless of whether or not it's sweeping teams."
should Sablenite or Shadow Tag be banned
>"I'm tired of people looking at STag as needing to be "broken". It's getting quite annoying how often that word gets thrown around. Everyone has this mindset that a Pokemon needs to sweep teams with little to no effort in order to be banned. Not every suspect needs to be Mega Salamence people. I've been advocating for this suspect for YEARS, and everyone always shoots it down because "it's not broken". Well, you're right, these Pokemon cannot 6-0 teams, so I can't argue that. However, it is as noncompetitive as you can possibly get in this game, aside from stupid hax. Removing all control from the opponent is fucking stupid, simple as that. When you remove a key aspect to the game, there is a VERY clear cut problem. Preventing the opponent from switching and getting guaranteed Kills or severely hampering the One Pokemon on the opponents team that threatens you to your liking, is stupid. It's not even remotely difficult to do either. We should be trying to make the game as competitive as humanly possible (which gets harder and harder to do each Generation). We are suspecting Shadow Tag as an ability, because Shadow Tag as an ability is noncompetitive in nature. If something is noncompetitive and removes all autonomy from the player, it is pretty obvious what should be done. Regardless of whether or not it's sweeping teams."
