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Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 03:04:42 No.24747199 View View Reply Original Report

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>conkeldurr
>slow as shit pokemon that holds two huge ass concrete slabs in each hand
>can learn mach punch

>breloom
>pokemon that barely has arms at all
>can learn mach punch

>machamp
>built like a super fit pro fighter
>has 4 arms, and they're known for being able to strike at rapid speeds
>cannot learn mach punch
Are you fucking kidding me?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 03:06:04 No.24747204 Report

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>>24747199
Machamp is Genwun trash.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 03:06:53 No.24747212 Report

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>>24747199
well i was holding myself from making a conkeldurr thread but okay

OT: GF is a fuck up when will you learn

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 03:08:00 No.24747218 Report

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>learns Bullet Punch but not Mach Punch

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 03:08:16 No.24747219 Report

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>>24747204

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 03:16:24 No.24747250 Report

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>>24747199
So how do we fix these big guys?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 03:22:31 No.24747303 Report

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>>24747199
>yfw in gen VII Machamp learns Vacuum Wave but still no Mach Punch

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 03:23:42 No.24747310 Report

Quoted By: >>24747337 >>24748602

>>24747250
Machamp's actually great for OU, it's just that nobody realizes it. Dynamic Punch is one of, if not the most versatile attack in the game along with Knock Off. Not many pokemon can safely switch into him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 03:23:50 No.24747311 Report

Quoted By: >>24747349

Machamp is built like a body builder, not a fighter. He's all glamour muscles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 03:24:28 No.24747315 Report

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>>24747199
do you even dex entry?
Breloom can stretch its arms cumnugget

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 03:28:41 No.24747337 Report

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>>24747310
hey bruh. i'm a big fan but let's not fool ourselves. even conk is not that good in OU anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 03:29:17 No.24747342 Report

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>>24747199
Machamp Punches like a Bullet, not like a Mach.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 03:30:36 No.24747349 Report

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>>24747311
sure jan

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 03:45:06 No.24747409 Report

Quoted By: >>24747511

>mach punch is called mach punch because it's a really fast punch
>bullet punch is called bullet punch because it's a really fast punch
>but bullet punch is steel type instead of fighting type because of a play on words

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 04:00:12 No.24747511 Report

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>>24747409
There should be a 30 BP +1 priority move that has a chance of flinching the opponent. We'll call it "Mock Punch".

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 04:12:16 No.24747585 Report

Quoted By: >>24747608 >>24747624 >>24747828

>>24747337
Machamp >>>>>>>>>>>>> Conk

Keep underestimating the effectiveness of Dynamic Punch at your peril.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 04:15:19 No.24747604 Report

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>>24747199

>barely has arms

breloom stretches its arms like vines.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 04:16:14 No.24747608 Report

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>>24747585
>Keep underestimating the effectiveness of Dynamic Punch at your peril
you're really not getting me man, see I LOVE No Guard DP Machamp. pic related is me using a machamp as my maison veteran securing my third trophy. But it's no longer enough to keep him afloat in the current meta because not only are fairies and flying types so predominant, people will know what you will be doing from a mile away. it's still versatile yes, but not as good as it was back in gen 4

machamp needs something else or something a bit better for next gen. so does conkeldurr.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 04:19:53 No.24747624 Report

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>>24747585
Yeah sure, while we kill it in two hits with pretty much every OU threat.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 04:21:16 No.24747631 Report

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So are you ready for the inevitable 14 arms Mega?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 04:24:48 No.24747652 Report

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>Hitmonchan
>Doesn't learn Poison Jab
>Hitmonlee does

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 04:24:58 No.24747653 Report

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>thought i clicked /r9k/

Wew lad what a trip

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 04:35:33 No.24747730 Report

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>>24747199
>corsola
>weak-ass piece of coral
>no connection with the Earth at all
>can learn Earth Power

>sunkern
>literally the weakest Pokemon in the game, just a seed
>gets Earth Power while other grass types don't

>typhlosion
>classified as the volcano Pokemon
>learns Eruption and Lava Plume
>cannot learn Earth Power

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 04:59:27 No.24747828 Report

Quoted By: >>24747834 >>24747850

>>24747585
PRIORITY BRAVE BIRD says hi

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 05:00:52 No.24747834 Report

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>>24747828
>implying you need priority bird moves to kill machamp

Yeah, I'm sorry, but gonna agree with the rest of the faggots here that Machamp is sort of a joke in the competitive environment as it is now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 05:04:59 No.24747850 Report

Quoted By: >>24747865 >>24747908

>>24747828
Switch out says hi. What kind of retard keeps Machamp in against Talonflame?

What the retards in this thread don't realize is that you use Machamp to hit whatever switches in with Dynamic Punch. If they choose to keep a confused Pokemon in, they're at serious risk of being repeatedly hammered.

I've lost count of how many Latis I've Dynamic Punched switching in, only to BTFO them with Knock Off the next turn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 05:07:21 No.24747865 Report

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>>24747850
And I'm guessing you can back up all that swagger with a rank of 1600+ amirite

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 05:14:05 No.24747908 Report

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>>24747850
Are you by any chance that guy who posts his replays late summer this year?

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Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 05:19:21 No.24747944 Report

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>>24747834
It hurts so much that it's true

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 08:56:49 No.24748602 Report

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>>24747310
I've been running into Machamp all day and I can agree to this. I'm even afraid of switching in Pokemon that resist Dynamicpunch because of the confusion

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 14:31:37 No.24749265 Report

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>Dynamic Punch now has BP of 120
>No Guard now has 50% chance of breaking through protect-like moves
>he gets Fissure back

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 14:59:22 No.24749382 Report

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>>24747199
GameFreak is retarded. News at 6.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 15:54:08 No.24749517 Report

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>>24747199
How it probably happens.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 16:49:37 No.24749636 Report

Quoted By: >>24749647 >>24749652

Would No Guard hitting through Protect and Substitute be enough to redeem Machamp in OU?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 16:52:07 No.24749647 Report

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>>24749636
Only if DP also has 120 BP like Zap Canon. Then people get more incentive to use him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 16:53:39 No.24749652 Report

Quoted By: >>24749703 >>24749792

>>24749636
That's a nice feature, but that doesn't change the fact that almost every relevant OU mon has a way of taking it down in two hits, including even the walls.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 16:54:14 No.24749655 Report

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>>24747199
>pokemon that barely has arm at all

His arms are elastic you faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 17:06:47 No.24749703 Report

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>>24749652
It would be nice. I can think of a bunch of protect-reliant mons that it could stop or severely sent before their gimmicks come out.
>Fuck you swampert
>Fuck you ferrocunt
>Fuck you Aegislash
>Fuck you Diancie (kind of)
>Fuck you Heatran
>Fuck you Tyranitar
>Fuck you Venusaur (not mega)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 17:25:59 No.24749792 Report

Quoted By: >>24749817

>>24749652
>including even the walls
And people say power creep does not exist

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 17:29:18 No.24749804 Report

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>>24747250
>conkeldurr
>big guy
>4'7"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 17:33:05 No.24749817 Report

Quoted By: >>24749966

>>24749792
You know there's something wrong with a so-called "bulky attacker" when it can't even switch in without taking hits like a bitch two times, even from Pokemon it supposedly outruns and "scares".

>0 Atk Ferrothorn Power Whip vs. 172 HP / 0 Def Machamp: 148-175 (40.6 - 48%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
>0 Atk Hippowdon Earthquake vs. 172 HP / 0 Def Machamp: 144-169 (39.5 - 46.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after sandstorm damage
>0 Atk Garchomp Earthquake vs. 172 HP / 0 Def Machamp: 162-192 (44.5 - 52.7%) -- 23% chance to 2HKO
>0 SpA Mega Venusaur Sludge Bomb vs. 172 HP / 0 SpD Machamp: 132-156 (36.2 - 42.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
>0 SpA Rotom-W Hydro Pump vs. 172 HP / 0 SpD Machamp: 142-168 (39 - 46.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock

This isn't even counting the fact that Machamp might be holding Assault Vest over Leftovers (so no passive recovery), or entry hazards or shit like sandstorm.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 18:12:10 No.24749966 Report

Quoted By: >>24750242

>>24749817
>>24749817
That's exactly my point. He worked as a dcent bulky attacker and one of the best leads in gen 4. The fact that even the walls and pokemkn that should be switching away from it can now fight back effectively means that the meta has shifted into something incredibly more hyper offensive than before

That is literally the definition of power creep. Anything not receiving generational buffs like Gyarados, Gengar and Azumarill are going to be left behind by the meta

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Dec 2015 19:10:46 No.24750242 Report

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>>24749966
>That is literally the definition of power creep. Anything not receiving generational buffs like Gyarados, Gengar and Azumarill are going to be left behind by the meta
I'm thankful that weather wars got me to quit competitive Pokemon. I can't imagine trying to compete nowadays.

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