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Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 04:05:32 No.24753397 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>24753405 >>24753415 >>24753840 >>24754355

>If I give this shitmon a mega instead of a normal evo it'll be great, r-right
Gen 6 was the worst thing that ever happened to digimon tbH

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 04:07:15 No.24753405 Report

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>>24753397
Good to know I'm not the only one who thinks this. Is it salvageable tho?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 04:08:40 No.24753415 Report

Quoted By: >>24753438

>>24753397

that's literally what happened with half the megas

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 04:12:13 No.24753431 Report

Quoted By: >>24753444

>pokemon is a shitmon
>BUT it was a three stager, or already had a really complex design, or other reasons it couldn't have gotten a regular evolution

Yeah sure, because Beedrill was going to get a cross gen evo that would save it right?

absolutely no fucking excuse for mawile and sableye to get megas instead of regular evos though. They're single stagers with cute, little, simple designs and bsts below 400

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 04:13:21 No.24753438 Report

Quoted By: >>24753718

>>24753415
Until power creep leaves them outclassed again, then we'll have Ultra Evolution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 04:13:55 No.24753444 Report

Quoted By: >>24753449 >>24754523

>>24753431

>Eviolite Sableye

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 04:15:01 No.24753449 Report

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>>24753444
>eviolite sableye
>eviolite mawile with fairy subtype
> IN LITTLE CUP

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Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 05:08:51 No.24753718 Report

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>>24753438

>moving the goalpost

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 05:13:24 No.24753729 Report

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>>24753449
Scyther, Gligar, Murkow and Misdreavus are all already there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 05:15:28 No.24753735 Report

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>>24753729
Sableye in little cup would be levels of bullshit that eclipses scyther entirely.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 05:18:21 No.24753741 Report

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Who the fuck cares about Little Cup?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 05:37:08 No.24753840 Report

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>>24753397
I like megas but this desu

Mega Beedrill, starters and pseudos are cool
Mega Pinsir and Heracross are okay, I would rather a evo like Scizor but they also work thematically
Trash megas like Mega Audino, Banette, Glalie and most other two-stagers are mistakes that Gamefreak will never retcon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 05:40:12 No.24753851 Report

Quoted By: >>24753870 >>24753913

>>24753840
Actually, the real mistake here might be eviolite.
Maybe GF wouldn't be so afraid of new crossgen evos if it weren't for that. Plus, it leads to ridiculous situations like Dusclops being better at Dusknoir for what they're supposed to do.

Eviolite shouldn't exist.

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Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 05:44:52 No.24753870 Report

Quoted By: >>24753906 >>24754156 >>24754539 >>24754817

>>24753851
Dusclops isn't better than dusknoir though (granted that's because they're both entirely unusable).

The SINGLE example of an NFE outclassing its final stage is Chansey. And that's because Blissey was 100% superfluous and only added like 30bst to Chansey.

I think it's much more likely that GF isn't doing any more cross gen evos because of how poor the reception to 4's were, not because of eviolite.

Remember this is gamefreak, they don't know SHIT about balance or even really how their own pokemon work.

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Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 05:47:54 No.24753882 Report

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>yfw Lapras, Claydol, Wobbufett and Shuckle get evos

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 05:55:55 No.24753906 Report

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>>24753870
That's just stupid. Did GF really think no one would eventually start putting Special Moves on Aegislash? They gave it 150 in both Attack stats. The purely Physical Attack set is shit compared to the other Movesets and is easily counter by Skarmory, Lando-T, etc

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 05:58:44 No.24753913 Report

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>>24753851
finally people start to realize this

gen 5 made so many bad design decisions that bled into gen 6 (eviolite, retarded levels of power creep, overpowered abilities) that there's nothing that can save the series now aside from a total reboot.

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Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 06:04:14 No.24753934 Report

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>>24753913
>eviolite
>bad design decision

There's literally ONE instance of a pokemon outclassing its evolved form, and that reflects more poorly on gamefreak making superfluous cross gen evolutions that have no reason at all to exist from a gameplay perspective. Blissey is just Chansey with 30 more special defence and 5 more hp. Same type, same abilities, same movepool, same stat distribution.

Eviolite is NOT a problem. ESPECIALLY since cross gen evolutions are typically the pokemon most likely to receive type, ability and movepool changes that significantly improves upon their prevos in ways raw stats alone can't bridge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 06:58:19 No.24754138 Report

Quoted By: >>24754158

Gen 6 and mega evos actually were great. Vp consists of babies who do nothing but whine about anything they can. Thats the only thing thats wrong here.

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Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 07:02:55 No.24754156 Report

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>>24753870
>muh tricky battle styles
Damn no wonder pokemon is such a mess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 07:03:17 No.24754158 Report

Quoted By: >>24754242

>>24754138
>This
My problems with Gen 6 are the hand holding and giving Megas to Pokemon that didn't need them like Tyranitar and Garchomp. /vp/ complains about Absol and Mawile getting Megas instead of cross gen evos when those same people hate Gen 4 evos.

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Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 07:32:05 No.24754242 Report

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>>24754158
/vp/, ever the contrarian, actually likes almost all the gen IV evos and just has a hate boner for Rhyperior specifically.

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Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 08:03:47 No.24754341 Report

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The problem with megas "fixing" shitmons is that you only get one mega per battle so the better megas of better pokemon STILL manage to edge them out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 08:10:02 No.24754355 Report

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>>24753397
better not be talking shit about beedrill

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Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 09:30:08 No.24754523 Report

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>>24753444
Not so terrifying now, that it actually has a weakness
and there were so many different things they could've done with a Sablevo
my favorite is this Mothman thing
That's somewhat what they did in the comic Proof, just that that was a dover demon, not a hoppkinvile goblin

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Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 09:45:03 No.24754539 Report

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>>24753870
nigga needs to find a charger baka

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 11:44:52 No.24754817 Report

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>>24753870
>how poor the reception to 4's were

Did they ever comment on that? How were gen 4's cross gens poorly received anyway? I recall everyone loving them, except maybe for Rhyperior since Rhydon is a tough design to top. Besides, nearly all those new evos were sorely needed. Roselia, Murkrow, Misdreavus, Electabuzz, Magmar and Togetic would be nothing but PU shitmons without their evos.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 12:21:27 No.24754899 Report

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>lets not give megas to pokemon do need a power up

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