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Wigglytuff

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 12:31:16 No.24754923 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>24754948 >>24755030 >>24755207 >>24756124 >>24759595 >>24760495

>Still an inferior Clefable

Seriously fuck you GF, can't you do anything right? I'm sick of having my favorites being so openly discriminated against.

If gen 7 doesn't buffs Wigglytuff to at least 480 BST, I hope Masuda and his whole family dies off a car accident. That will wipe that stupid smug yellow smile out of his face. Why is Masuda & his team such idiots?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 12:34:23 No.24754938 Report

Quoted By: >>24755283

Wigglytuff's won a VGC regional
Clefable hasn't

g i t g u d

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 12:37:50 No.24754948 Report

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>>24754923
>gets additional 45 points BST
>140->185 HP

t-thanks Gamefreak...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 13:06:03 No.24755030 Report

Quoted By: >>24755218

>>24754923
Is sad how weak and outclassed Pokemon become more famous than the ones that are better thanks to the anime: Pikachu is an inferior Jolteon, Jigglypuff is a bad Clefairy clone, Charmander was the one that evolve instead of Bulbasaur, Chikorita was the one that evolve instead of Cyndaquil, before getting a mega Pidgey line was always outclassed by Fearow line, Donphan is a bad bulky attacker, Sceptile is the worst of the Hoenn starters, Glalie is a joke Pokemon even with a mega, Torterra is the worst of the Sinnoh starters, Buizel is a bad Pokemon, even with HA Oshawott is the worst of Unova starters, compared with Unfezant Swanna at least can cover one of its weaknesses, Numerugon is a better Pokemon than Noivern.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 14:13:39 No.24755198 Report

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>someone actually likes Wigglytuff

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 14:16:16 No.24755206 Report

Quoted By: >>24755208

Idk. Maybe if you didnt compare one Pokemon to another based solely on typing or what niche it fills you wouldn't be so disappointed. Every Pokemon has some sort of use

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 14:16:54 No.24755207 Report

Quoted By: >>24755216

>>24754923
at least it still has STAB Hyper voice

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 14:16:55 No.24755208 Report

Quoted By: >>24755216 >>24755283

>>24755206

Wigglytuff really doesn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 14:19:34 No.24755216 Report

Quoted By: >>24755225

>>24755208
>>24755207for one thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 14:20:13 No.24755218 Report

Quoted By: >>24755277

>>24755030

So you're saying only good Pokemon should be popular or be in the anime? That's stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 14:23:02 No.24755225 Report

Quoted By: >>24755236 >>24755283

>>24755216

Yeah, but then why not just use Mega Gardevoir or Sylveon? Wigglytuff really is bad. I guess it at least gets Wish? But Aromatisse does it and is much bulkier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 14:27:48 No.24755236 Report

Quoted By: >>24755258

>>24755225
That brings me back to my other point. You're comparing wiggly to other Pokemon. Maybe you'd rather have something else for your mega spot. Maybe you want a hazard setter. Im not trying to convince you wigglytuff is good but its far from being useless

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 14:35:38 No.24755258 Report

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>>24755236

4chan thinks my reply is spam, so here's a chopped down version of what I was going to post originally:

Everyone compares pokemon to other pokemon. Wigglytuff is shit because no matter what you compare it to or what role you give it, it's outclassed. It's shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 14:42:53 No.24755277 Report

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>>24755218
No. I mean that all the Pokemon, good or bad, should be in the anime but the bad are the ones that are more popular instead of both groups.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 14:44:36 No.24755283 Report

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>>24755208
>>24755225
Competitive, STAB Hyper Voice, a varied special movepool and being Normal type

it's pretty shit but it's not outclassed, otherwise >>24754938 wouldn't have happened

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 14:45:34 No.24755286 Report

Quoted By: >>24755788 >>24755920 >>24756157

>inferior Clefable

It's worse than that, OP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 14:47:33 No.24755292 Report

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Wigglytuff can do one thing and only one thing, and that's threaten Mandibuzz. That's literally it outside of PU. And come on, that's PU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 17:23:24 No.24755788 Report

Quoted By: >>24755809

>>24755286
is this list saying that clefairy and articuno do the same level of jobs as each other? man i feel bad for best bird

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 17:28:50 No.24755809 Report

Quoted By: >>24755909 >>24756257

>>24755788

Articuno is held back by Stealth Rock.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 17:54:33 No.24755909 Report

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>>24755809
Also a really shitty defensive typing and a pretty eh movepool. Clefairy does well because it's got a good setup move, good typing, decent bulk, and a godly movepool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 17:57:13 No.24755920 Report

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>>24755286
>Wigglytuff is literally worse than Clefairy
>Wigglytuff is literally as bad as Flareon
It hurts

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 18:57:08 No.24756124 Report

Quoted By: >>24760454

>>24754923
Give it Boomburst

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 19:07:15 No.24756157 Report

Quoted By: >>24756159 >>24756217

>>24755286
>Swalot is worse than Flareon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 19:08:37 No.24756159 Report

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>>24756157
Swalot is as good as Flareon, apparently.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 19:22:06 No.24756217 Report

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>>24756157
It's on par with Flareon.

That pic has them listed in Alphabetical Order.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 19:34:15 No.24756257 Report

Quoted By: >>24760446

>>24755809
It's insane that something with 580 BST is unusable in higher tiers just because of one hazard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Dec 2015 19:43:42 No.24756306 Report

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It needs less attack points. Those points need to be allocated to its defenses. Before anything else, Wigglytuff severely needs to have its defenses buffed. Even with HP that huge, it's frail as fuck. The last stat it needs to have buffed is speed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Dec 2015 05:15:06 No.24759302 Report

Quoted By: >>24759577 >>24760459 >>24760502

Mega wigglytuff. It just gets fluffier.

Fur coat

+50 special defence
+20 defence
+20 special attack
+10 attack

Not shit anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Dec 2015 06:32:53 No.24759577 Report

Quoted By:

>>24759302
I'd be ok with it, just want to use my Tuff

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Dec 2015 06:36:44 No.24759595 Report

Quoted By:

>>24754923
Is Clefable immune to ghost?
That's right, faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Dec 2015 11:05:00 No.24760446 Report

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>>24756257
it's not only that but it's stat distribution is horrible
it has a perfect typing for a frail but fast sweeper, and instead they made it a slowish defensive mediocre special attacker with no way to boost anything but speed
seriously, ice/flying with freeze-dry has near perfect coverage, and is already pretty held back by stealth rock, and yet they made it all defensive and slow as shit
literally all it needed was just a swap between special attack and special defense, like it had in gen 1

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Dec 2015 11:06:48 No.24760454 Report

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>>24756124
this would be great, actually.
competitive + spammable move with good coverage and decent hp would make it SO much better
like a shittier exploud but with the niche of a different typing and the defensive fairy stuff (wish, heal bell, thunder wave, etc)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Dec 2015 11:07:50 No.24760459 Report

Quoted By: >>24760472

>>24759302
take from attack and put it into special attack, it doesn't have any use for the attack boost

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Dec 2015 11:14:25 No.24760472 Report

Quoted By: >>24760485

>>24760459
it doesn't have any use for it but even with it it's fucking great.

140 HP is great
65 defence is kinda shit but with fur coat its effectively base 180. Furfrou has base 60, for comparison.
100 special defence works.

The wall no one asked for. Bonus points for being able to switch in (non mega) on defog and get +2 special attack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Dec 2015 11:14:26 No.24760473 Report

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It needs its base stat distribution reworked and buffed first.

Like swap its defense and attack stat

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Dec 2015 11:16:36 No.24760485 Report

Quoted By: >>24760487

>>24760472
sure but it really needs all it can get in special attack to be worth anything in OU
either that or speed idk

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Dec 2015 11:17:13 No.24760487 Report

Quoted By: >>24760491 >>24760502

>>24760485
252 Atk Choice Band Sheer Force Darmanitan Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Fur Coat Mega-Wigglytuff: 190-225 (39.2 - 46.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Dec 2015 11:19:04 No.24760491 Report

Quoted By: >>24760494

>>24760487
yes i get it's a great defensive wall, but then what's it going to do back against darmanitan? also don't forget the huge amount of mold breaker users

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 03 Dec 2015 11:20:53 No.24760494 Report

Quoted By: >>24760499 >>24760502

>>24760491
???what does this thing do???

Wigglytuff has all the moves it has bar softboiled.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 03 Dec 2015 11:21:12 No.24760495 Report

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>>24754923
At least you weren't side-armed by some fat ground tumor and fucked up the only goddamn thing they had going for this Pokemon. Fucking GameFreak can't balance shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Dec 2015 11:22:25 No.24760499 Report

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>>24760494
well ok then

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Dec 2015 11:24:00 No.24760502 Report

Quoted By:

>>24760494
>>24760487
>>24759302
>wigglytuff + chansey core
Cancer incarnate

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