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Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2015 03:37:26 No.24776446 View View Reply Original Report

>translates the Japanese name of Flamethrower move as "Fire Emission"
>even though "kaenhosha" is literally what Japanese call a flamethrower

what's up with plenty of the Japanese move names in Bulba being written as though they are "different" even though mostly all of them are the same as their english names?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2015 03:40:59 No.24776466 Report

Quoted By: >>24776656 >>24779752

Remember dude this is a wiki, any junior "Pokemon fanatic" can come and do something, one of them probably just ran it through google translate and got that because Google Translate is broken af

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2015 03:46:49 No.24776498 Report

Quoted By: >>24776656 >>24776754 >>24776778

"Flame Emission" is correct. "Flamethrower" is "kaenhoushaki."

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2015 04:15:48 No.24776656 Report

Quoted By: >>24776782 >>24779080

>>24776466
>any junior

actually the site would be saved if you can do that, since BP has really fucked up mods that don't want to have their entries edited by nobodies, even though what they get is wrong

>>24776498
nigga they still use kaenhosha for flamethrower as a shorthand, pretty much any flamethrower-related video game item is written as kaenhosha

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2015 04:37:09 No.24776754 Report

Quoted By: >>24776782

>>24776498
Since when is flame emission even a real term.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2015 04:44:11 No.24776778 Report

Quoted By: >>24776793

>>24776498
Kaenhoushaki translates to "flamethrower device" you dumb faggot. The move removes the "device" part because it's not a fucking device.
Flamethrower is the only logical translation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2015 04:45:32 No.24776782 Report

Quoted By: >>24783110

>>24776754
since those words were invented? it's an emission of flames. thus flame emission. makes sense to me.

>>24776656
possibly, but flame emission is still the precise translation

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2015 04:48:50 No.24776793 Report

Quoted By: >>24776820 >>24776825

>>24776778
>Kaenhoushaki translates to "flamethrower device" you dumb faggot

Yeah? And what do you think a flamethrower is, retard? It's a device that spews flames. That's why "flame emission" is correct.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2015 04:52:34 No.24776807 Report

Quoted By: >>24776827 >>24776849

>Teeter Dance is Dizzy Dance, even though Teeter also fits in context

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2015 04:55:31 No.24776820 Report

Quoted By: >>24776849

>>24776793
A flamethrower is SOMETHING that spews flames. It doesn't have to be a device.

The Japanese word for the device we call a flamethrower, however, includes the suffix meaning "device" at the end of the word.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2015 04:56:12 No.24776825 Report

Quoted By: >>24776849

>>24776793
I bet you'd translate konnichiwa to 'this day'

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2015 04:56:44 No.24776827 Report

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>>24776807
That's definitely a result of some faggot not knowing what teeter means.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2015 05:00:27 No.24776844 Report

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To be perfectly fair, the term "kaen-housha" IS used when talking about a burner's flame and such things

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2015 05:01:49 No.24776849 Report

Quoted By: >>24776855 >>24776861 >>24776862

>>24776820
>A flamethrower is SOMETHING that spews flames

No, it's a device. That's the definition. Look it up if you have to.

>, includes the suffix meaning "device" at the end of the word.
yeah, maybe because THAT'S WHAT A FLAMETHROWER IS.

The Jap name for the move Flamethrower is literally "Flame Emission." There's no argument here. That's what it is.

>>24776825
No, I'd translate it to "good day." Because that's what it means. The same way the Jap name for flamethrower means "flame emission." Because there's no device involved it isn't meaning "flamethrower."

>>24776807
If they both fit then why does it matter?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2015 05:03:42 No.24776855 Report

Quoted By: >>24776925

>>24776849
You're a fucking retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2015 05:04:55 No.24776861 Report

Quoted By: >>24776889 >>24776925

>>24776849
>If they both fit then why does it matter?

because what's the point of making up a new term even though in context it works? Same with "lightning speed" even though quick attack works

it gives the false idea of "well this is a proper translation" even though it isn't

reminds me of the dumb twitter posters complaining about yokai watch changing something into "donuts" thinking it was odango or shit, even though there are actual donuts in a festival

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2015 05:05:18 No.24776862 Report

Quoted By: >>24776925

>>24776849
You have got to be trolling

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2015 05:12:06 No.24776889 Report

Quoted By: >>24776912

>>24776861
"Lightning speed" isn't even a literal translation of denkousekka, it's just a simplistic definition of the meaning you'll find in many dictionaries.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2015 05:15:20 No.24776912 Report

Quoted By: >>24776950

>>24776889
So bulbapedo is wrong again?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2015 05:17:12 No.24776922 Report

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Bulbapedia sucks with Japanese, I remember they didn't confirm something for ages even though it was blatant in the Japanese.

Also, Orihashi Mamoru.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2015 05:18:14 No.24776925 Report

Quoted By: >>24776930

>>24776855
>>24776862
ran out of arguments I see. Go back to circlejerking over your irrational hatred of Bulbapedo's correct translation then! ;)

>>24776861
They're not making up anything though. Teeter is essentially the same thing as "dizzy." The Yokai watch comparison doesn't work in this case because they're actually two different things. It's just different letters that have the same meaning so I don't see how it matters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2015 05:19:40 No.24776930 Report

Quoted By: >>24776934

>>24776925
What's the point of using Dizzy when we got Teeter?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2015 05:21:26 No.24776934 Report

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>>24776930
I dunno. you could ask this of literally every synonym that exists. it's just how language works.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2015 05:27:37 No.24776950 Report

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>>24776912
Well.
The word is 電光石火
Hyper-literally it means "lightning light stone fire".
Less stupidly literal, "the flash of lightning and the spark of (flint)stones".
The term is most frequently found in the phrase "denkousekka no gotoki", "gotoki" meaning "similar to", so the full phrase means "similar to the flash of lightning and the spark of (flint)stones".
Or like you might say in English, "like a flash".

In short, it's just a kinda poetic way of saying "something that is very fast". "Lightning speed" isn't a terrible way of quickly explaining what the phrase itself means, which is why you find it in a bunch of dictionaries, but it IS a simplification and there's a dozen other ways to translate it depending on how it's used.
"Like a flash" is a really nice translation of "denkousekka no gotoki", for instance, since it's both an already existing English phrase AND pretty fucking exactly what the term translates to.

Bulbapedo's translators just look words up in dictionaries, though so what you find there is what they'll call "most accurate".

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2015 18:10:28 No.24779080 Report

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>>24776656
>actually the site would be saved if you can do that, since BP has really fucked up mods that don't want to have their entries edited by nobodies, even though what they get is wrong
They revert so many correction it's both sad and hilarious

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2015 18:20:51 No.24779130 Report

Quoted By: >>24779838 >>24780044

That site is such a joke.

Surely if /vp/ rallied we could make a better web resource.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2015 20:28:39 No.24779752 Report

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>>24776466
And bulbapedia's mods just change anything you do back anyway, whether right or wrong

Funny thing is theyve had errors like Alan being in the diancie movie that last forever.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2015 20:43:05 No.24779838 Report

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>>24779130
>Surely if /vp/ rallied we could make a better web resource.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2015 21:20:40 No.24780044 Report

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>>24779130
I'm not sure why we would need to since there are already many other places where you can get relevant information. The only thing Bulbapedia has that other sites don't is useless flavor/trivia crap.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2015 23:27:36 No.24780818 Report

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>>24776446
http://strawpoll.me/6198214

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Anonymous Mon 07 Dec 2015 06:17:33 No.24782901 Report

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>>24776446
http://strawpoll.me/6198214/

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Anonymous Mon 07 Dec 2015 07:03:47 No.24783110 Report

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>>24776782
>flame emission is still the precise translation
I bet you're one of those people who thinks "harisenbon" should be translated as "a thousand needles."

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