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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2015 20:15:46 No.24802979 View View Reply Original Report

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>no Slugma in Burnt Tower
>No Natu in Tin Tower
>No Houndour/Houndoom/Murkrow/Misdreavus in Dark Cave
>No link between Dragon's Den and a tiny bit of Mt.Silver so you can get Tyranitar pre-E4
>50% of Johto gym leaders use Kantomons as signatures
>80% of all new pokémon are garbage
>Those fucking levels
How anyone can consider gen 2 to be the best gen is beyond me to be honest, and I even started with Crystal

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2015 21:19:24 No.24803064 Report

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>>24802979
Honestly op those are pretty good ideas, however imo larvitar is the prize the player gets for beating the game so I like how you only get it after.

You're discrediting the game based on the rare appearance of new pokemon. But you're not keeping in mind that up to that point in the "lore" these new pokemon are new discoveries to the pokeworld, so why would everyone have them? You may have heard it said before but johto and it's gym leaders are really a continuation or "expansion" of pokemon red and blue, it's a sequel of Kanto, it's not a feature presentation meant to be packaged completely on its own like new regions are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2015 21:47:14 No.24803217 Report

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the point of pokemon back then was finding the new ones, including legendaries and not just getting them handed out to you

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2015 21:57:19 No.24803265 Report

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>>24802979
It seems likely that they saved some new pokemon for Kanto because they wanted to add something new for the player to find when you revisited the old games. That said, I think they should have used other pokemon instead, because fire and dark types are not by any means commonplace in johto.

The low levels were needed to balance the postgame content (to negate having the post e4 gyms being too high leveled), but I agree that they could have created a better flow pre e4, especially between the 6th and 8th gym.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2015 21:58:30 No.24803270 Report

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>>24802979
Natu's secret grove in the Union Cave/Ruins of Alph complex was pretty good enough. Thank you very much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2015 22:22:43 No.24803402 Report

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>>24802979
usable gen 2 pokes in crystal before batling the 4th gym:
phanpy
teddiursa
mareep
wooper
pineco
snubbull
marrill
heracross

now you can stop with your epic le gen 2 is le shit maymays

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2015 22:25:46 No.24803423 Report

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>>24802979
>ALL THE NEW POKEMON ARE SHIT!
>WHY CAN'T I USE ALL THE NEW POKEMON?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2015 22:43:32 No.24803520 Report

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Gen 2 is pretty much the worst.
Awfully slow level curve, on some runs you barely get to fully evolve your starter before E4. (grinding is for fags). TM selection is hilariously bad: Protect AND Detect? Endure? Defense Curl? Mud Slap and Fury Cutter from gyms.
Level up moves mostly garbage as well. Meganium is stuck with Razor leaf and normal moves the entire game.
Kanto is half assed addon to the main game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2015 23:05:52 No.24803649 Report

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>>24802979
God just shut the fuck up with your genwar pandering. Nobody wants to hear your whining about a game that you are lucky to have even played. Suck my dick

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2015 23:14:44 No.24803691 Report

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>>24803402
Mareep isn't available in Crystal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2015 23:28:33 No.24803792 Report

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>>24802979
I agree with your points being things wrong with gen 2, but when it comes down to it they're not actually that important and are small, niggling details. Dumb, sure, but I'm not surprised people still like gen 2.

>>24803649
>>24803423

Haha stay mad buttblasted fags

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2015 00:43:50 No.24804269 Report

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>>24803792
Hey, fuck you buddy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2015 00:52:41 No.24804316 Report

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>>24802979
>50% of Johto gym leaders use Kantomons as signatures
This always really bothered me. Why not give Faulkner a Murkrow or Bugsey a Ledian or even a Heracross?

Morty is about the only one I can justify considering how much weaker Misdreavous is than Gengar and what part of the game you battle him at

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2015 08:00:23 No.24806245 Report

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>>24802979
New Top Gear when?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2015 08:02:20 No.24806254 Report

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>>24802979
remember though op, gen 2 was only the product of fans wanting more games. didn't really matter how they did it, as long as there was at least some new content

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2015 08:02:40 No.24806257 Report

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>>24803520
This. Only nostalgiafags think Gen 2 is good. I hope the shitty Johto starters never get Megas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2015 08:06:10 No.24806266 Report

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>Get to Goldenrod
>Buy/catch Abra
Congratulations, you broke the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2015 08:10:37 No.24806277 Report

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>>24802979
This is mainly why HGSS isn't good. It's not as bad as ORAS obviously since it's basically a copy + paste of GSC with a couple of new places to go albeit having that slow-ass Gen IV engine, but there's NO improvements of all the hideous mistakes of GSC. Pokemon distribution, level scaling, Jesus Christ, why the fuck am I battling level 4 Spearow in Cerulean city? Why the fuck are trainer's Pokemon only in the 20s when my guys are late 50s? Fuck me, what a fuckup.

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2015 09:18:51 No.24806466 Report

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>people actually like HGSS

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2015 09:51:36 No.24806578 Report

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>>24806266
>Get to Goldenrod
>Buy/catch Abra
>teach it all 3 element punches
Crystal a best

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