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Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2015 14:30:08 No.24846299 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>24846311 >>24846329 >>24846334 >>24846349 >>24846403 >>24846441 >>24846967 >>24846990 >>24847672 >>24848738 >>24850974 >>24851929 >>24855235 >>24860613 >>24860706 >>24862729 >>24870468

So yeah,

Clefairy was originally supposed to be the mascot of the franchise, and yet Jigglypuff has proven to be 1000x more popular. 4chan's contrarian mentality might lead us to believe /vp/ would prefer Clefairy, so let's find out.

Which do you like the most and why? Try to keep it more or less in regards to design/concept instead of purely metagame crap.

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Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2015 14:34:16 No.24846311 Report

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>>24846299
Meta = life

Git gud you scrubpleb

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2015 14:36:46 No.24846319 Report

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Clefairy because it's cuter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2015 14:38:19 No.24846329 Report

Quoted By: >>24848461

>>24846299
>and yet Jigglypuff has proven to be 1000x more popular
Jigglypuff got popular because it was a character in the anime. Same reason why Mewtwo is more popular than it should be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2015 14:39:01 No.24846334 Report

Quoted By: >>24846343

>>24846299
I'm sure that if in the anime they had made clefairy the one following ash, singing and throwing fits, it would have been as popular as jigglypuff is now

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2015 14:41:33 No.24846343 Report

Quoted By: >>24851702

>>24846334
except she has a weird shape and lacks gigantic baby eyes

jigglypuff's visual naturally radiates a lot more charisma

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2015 14:43:03 No.24846349 Report

Quoted By: >>24846355

>>24846299
Clefairy because it's from Space

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2015 14:45:14 No.24846355 Report

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>>24846349
jigglypuff too

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2015 14:50:10 No.24846378 Report

Quoted By: >>24847817 >>24849712 >>24862717

jigglypuff > clefairy

clefable > wigglytuff

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2015 15:00:51 No.24846403 Report

Quoted By: >>24846414 >>24846518 >>24846573 >>24870483

>>24846299
I loathe both of them, seriously fuck clefairy and FUCK JIGGLYPUFF, why is jigglypuff STILL in smash? when has it been relevant enough in recent mainline pokemon titles for it to warrant ANOTHER appearance in smash? HRFOGRORORORRGROOOOAAHAAAAAJIGGLYPUFFGETOUUUT

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2015 15:07:16 No.24846414 Report

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>>24846403
>why is jigglypuff STILL in smash?

She's the joke character. She's there so skilled players can piss off their friends even more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2015 15:10:52 No.24846427 Report

Quoted By: >>24846435 >>24846445 >>24846470

It's funny to think about what clefairy would look like today if it got the pikachu treatment

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2015 15:14:23 No.24846435 Report

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>>24846427
>If Clefairy got the Pikachu treatment
Someone should shoop/draw a thinner Clefairy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2015 15:17:48 No.24846441 Report

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>>24846299
Jigglypuff has a more attractive design, looks cuter with a bow, and is still relevant due to Smash.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2015 15:19:18 No.24846445 Report

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>>24846427

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2015 15:25:16 No.24846453 Report

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Jigglypuff and Pikachu are the only two Pokemon I've legitimately hated since I watched the anime as a kid.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2015 15:30:19 No.24846470 Report

Quoted By: >>24848412

>>24846427

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2015 15:40:52 No.24846493 Report

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Jiggs. I'd probably like Clefairy more if it had Cleffa's cute face.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2015 15:47:31 No.24846507 Report

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just realized that jigglypuff's body + clefairy's eyes = kirby

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2015 15:51:07 No.24846518 Report

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>>24846403
Because Sakurai doesn't care about muh patterns aside from "muh 12 original smashers"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2015 15:52:27 No.24846521 Report

Quoted By: >>24846525

Sing > metronome

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2015 15:54:40 No.24846525 Report

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>>24846521
clefairy has been able to learn sing naturally since the very beggining

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2015 16:16:23 No.24846573 Report

Quoted By: >>24851019

>>24846403
None of the original 12 are getting removed at this point, cry more fag.

If anything, she was the character that was the most neglected so far in the balance patches, so at this point the developers also probably don't care about her anymore, just add her to the roster and call it a day. So yeah she would be removed at this point if she wasn't from the roots of Smash, but well she is so not gonna happen.

I'm sorry if your bromon didn't make it to Smash yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2015 16:41:34 No.24846630 Report

Quoted By: >>24847713

I have always liked Clefairy more, even back when Jiggs was the second mascot. I would have loved Clefairy in smash btw - Metronome spam to piss people off, glorious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2015 17:54:48 No.24846967 Report

Quoted By: >>24851668 >>24852160

>>24846299
>says /vp/ will be contrarian and pick clefairy
>/vp/ tries to counter OP and goes for jigglypuff
countercontrarianism at its best

Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy

Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy Fri 18 Dec 2015 18:00:46 No.24846990 Report

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>>24846299
i've always been a wigglytuff fan but i kind of like that clefairy is more detailed than jigglypuff

clefable is shit anyways

jigglypuff < clefairy
wigglytuff > clefable

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2015 20:25:36 No.24847672 Report

Quoted By: >>24847827

>>24846299
can we talk about how fucking useless cleffa and igglybuff (and pichu) are? Clefairy, jigglypuff (and pikachu) are all way cuter and better designed than their babies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2015 20:33:43 No.24847713 Report

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>>24846630
this,it would have happened to if they stuck to it being the chosen mascot. Clefairy is cuter and metronome is fun

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2015 20:43:46 No.24847748 Report

Quoted By: >>24867033

Clefairy is more useful in doubles.

Jigglypuff is more useful in triples.

Nobody plays triples. Clefairy wins.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2015 20:59:07 No.24847817 Report

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>>24846378
Agreed

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2015 21:01:55 No.24847827 Report

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>>24847672
I think cleffa and pichu are cute, though. Pichu's seizure taunt in melee was great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2015 21:03:39 No.24847836 Report

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jigglypuff is fucking ugly, those giant eyes and the round pink body make it look like a bloodied cottonswab
clefairy is better d e s u

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2015 21:04:41 No.24847844 Report

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Clefairy because boom boom

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2015 23:01:18 No.24848412 Report

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>>24846470

Sugimori art da bes imo desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2015 23:13:18 No.24848459 Report

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jigglypuff

>anime character
>better design (all 3)
>based wigglytuff from EoS
>funnest smash character

clefairy

>multiple le epic gimmick sets
>attracts stupid memers that point out it looks like gengar
>worse designs
>not in smash
>not a notable character in any game or anime

it's not even a contest

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 18 Dec 2015 23:14:47 No.24848461 Report

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>>24846329
This and Smash boosted it to S tier

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Dec 2015 00:08:25 No.24848738 Report

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>>24846299
jigglypuff > clefairy > clefable > wigglytuff > cleffa > igglybuff

in terms of design

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Dec 2015 03:07:10 No.24849712 Report

Quoted By: >>24850999

>>24846378
cleffa > igglybuff
clefairy < jigglypuff
clefable < wigglytuff

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Dec 2015 06:57:18 No.24850974 Report

Quoted By: >>24852931

>>24846299
Recently used clefable in a red run and a competitive (ability) wigglytuff in an OR run. They were each the MVP of both runs. Planning on doing a run with only a clefable and a wigglytuff next

also holy shit wigglytuff is amazing in mansion doubles and triples, used it on my statue runs for both formats

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Dec 2015 07:01:13 No.24850999 Report

Quoted By: >>24855317

>>24849712

cleffa > igglybuff
clefairy > jigglypuff
clefable < wigglytuff

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Dec 2015 07:02:30 No.24851004 Report

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Clefairy line > Jigglypuff line

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Dec 2015 07:05:43 No.24851019 Report

Quoted By: >>24851058

>>24846573
>posting that shit anywhere near Kirby just because they can both inflate

Kill yourself.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 19 Dec 2015 07:12:33 No.24851058 Report

Quoted By: >>24852174 >>24860687

>>24851019
They were semi-clones in 64 and still share similar moves and traits due to that. Stop being a salty faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Dec 2015 10:44:06 No.24851668 Report

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>>24846967
came here to say this, 4chan is so predictable

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Dec 2015 10:48:28 No.24851674 Report

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clefairy is better
i give no fuck about your contrarian meme

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Dec 2015 11:04:29 No.24851702 Report

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>>24846343
Jigglypuff and Pikachu's both gone through some design changes from the games to the anime, unlike Clefairy who have more or less stayed the same. Jigglypuff became much more perfectly round instead of a flabby thing, and even in the early anime Pikachu's limbs were already more elongated than the Fatchu design.

If Clefairy had been the mascot or become a recurring character it likely would have had a similar streamlining to make it more easily animated and appealing at the same time.

Take for example; Gastly - it went from a stippled haze with a face to a black ball on fire with a face - it wasn't because of technical limitations it was really envisioned that way in the Capumon document.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Dec 2015 12:36:23 No.24851929 Report

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>>24846299
I wish they were single forms. Their evolutions looks worse than them, are less cute and add nothing interesting to their designs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Dec 2015 14:02:47 No.24852160 Report

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>>24846967
>if clefairy wins /vp/ is being contrarian
>if jigglypuff wins /vp/ is also being contratian
why even bother creating the thread then?

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Anonymous Sat 19 Dec 2015 14:07:59 No.24852174 Report

Quoted By: >>24860687

>>24851058

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Dec 2015 18:30:51 No.24852931 Report

Quoted By: >>24852950 >>24853562

>>24850974
Wigglytuff? Really? What did you use it for in Maison?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Dec 2015 18:39:50 No.24852950 Report

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>>24852931
probably Perish Song in triples. Perish Song completely breaks triples.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 19 Dec 2015 21:28:11 No.24853562 Report

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>>24852931
Something that never fucking died and would wreak havoc anytime my opponent brought something out with intimidate.
Here's the set
Guildmaster @ Leftovers
252Def/4SpA/252SpD
Competitive
Bold Nature
~Protect
~Wish
~Dazzling Gleam
~Hyper Voice

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Dec 2015 02:09:59 No.24855235 Report

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>>24846299
chansey > clefairy > jigglypuff

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Dec 2015 02:29:00 No.24855317 Report

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>>24850999
Muh nigga

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Dec 2015 10:48:12 No.24857022 Report

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jigglyfags are the worst. truly genwunners nostalgiafags influenced by the ashnime

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Dec 2015 21:24:57 No.24858998 Report

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I used Clefable in my all normal team... Then they retconned it into a pure Fairy type which effectively killed what I had bred it for.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2015 02:24:14 No.24860613 Report

Quoted By:

>>24846299
jigglypuff looks better tbqh

id fuck both though

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2015 02:37:41 No.24860687 Report

Quoted By:

>>24852174
>>24851058
JIGGLY NO HE'S GOING TO EAT YOU

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2015 02:41:36 No.24860706 Report

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>>24846299
Clefairy's design is too busy. There are so many things going on, and they're all distracting and don't work well with each other.

Jigglypuff's simplicity is best.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2015 10:05:46 No.24862717 Report

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>>24846378
>clefable > wigglytuff

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2015 10:09:33 No.24862729 Report

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>>24846299
jiggly looks cuter, but concept wise, clefairy wins by a fucking landslide
a pokemon who is obsessed with moonlight and possibly from the moon?
hell mother fucking yes
cute moon fairy for the wi

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2015 16:55:25 No.24863973 Report

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jigglypuff looks better but clefairy has better lore

/thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2015 17:06:54 No.24864012 Report

Quoted By: >>24868269

Cleffa >>>>>>> igglybuff
Clefairy = jigglypuff
Clefable < Wigglytuff

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2015 19:17:18 No.24864550 Report

Quoted By: >>24872369

Clef airy line was always cooler. Only smash babbies like jigglypuff more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2015 03:59:59 No.24867033 Report

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>>24847748
Remember when gen 6 first started and everyone was using boltbeam+moonblast+coverage clefable in singles? Good times for the best pink blob, and yeah it's still at least relevant and igglybuff is ugly as hell.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2015 08:15:17 No.24868196 Report

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I actually like Clefairy better, mostly because it's better to use but I also like its design and concept better too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2015 08:28:15 No.24868269 Report

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>>24864012
Absolute reverse. Babies should be ranked in cuteness, and Igglybuff's cuter. Fully-evolved Pokemon should be ranked in viability, and Clefable is way better than Wigglytuff in battle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2015 19:36:16 No.24870468 Report

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>>24846299
They are both great. The chansey line is the one that looks like shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2015 19:39:11 No.24870483 Report

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>>24846403
>why is jigglypuff STILL in smash?

because it's easy to re-implement and she doesn't play remotely like anyone else except Kirby by a stretch

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Dec 2015 01:41:11 No.24872369 Report

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>>24864550
except smash babies hate jigglypuff for wasting a character slot

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Dec 2015 01:49:14 No.24872398 Report

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Girls like spheres. Jigglypuff is more spherical.

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