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Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2015 00:04:23 No.24859881 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>24859951 >>24859964 >>24859981 >>24860761 >>24867179 >>24867870 >>24868230 >>24868292 >>24869640

Don't you wish talonflame never existed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2015 00:10:04 No.24859899 Report

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I much rather wish that it didn't need to exist, but if it wasn't there things would be worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2015 00:16:54 No.24859925 Report

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Git gud fag

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2015 00:22:29 No.24859947 Report

Quoted By: >>24860785 >>24864774 >>24865959

Talonflame isn't the problem, Gale Wings is

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2015 00:23:32 No.24859951 Report

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>>24859881
I like Talonflame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2015 00:26:25 No.24859964 Report

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>>24859881
I like Talonflame. And I like the Gen VI Brave Bird animation. I dislike Gale Wings.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2015 00:27:08 No.24859966 Report

Quoted By: >>24864774

Talonflame isn't the problem; Gale Wings is.
Remove shitty abilities like that from the game plz.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2015 00:30:12 No.24859981 Report

Quoted By: >>24860008 >>24864774

>>24859881
Gale Wings, nigga. Talonflame is first route garbage without it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2015 00:34:17 No.24860008 Report

Quoted By: >>24860021

>>24859981

>Bulky bird who outspeeds many threats

>garbage

Quit being a delusional faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2015 00:37:20 No.24860021 Report

Quoted By: >>24860047

>>24860008
Are you really deluding yourself into thinking Talonflame would be worth shit if it weren't for its ability? 78/71/69 isn't that bulky. Taking 50% damage from pebbles doesn't help.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2015 00:42:15 No.24860047 Report

Quoted By: >>24860064 >>24860124

>>24860021
It might break into UU. With that speed, it's still outspeeding a whole lot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2015 00:45:33 No.24860064 Report

Quoted By: >>24870212 >>24870241

>>24860047
And what is it going to do with that speed? Sweep opponents with its staggering overpowered whopping 81 attack stat?

Swellow has higher speed, higher attack, and can hit massive STAB Guts boosted Facade attacks yet it's rotting in NU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2015 00:47:21 No.24860078 Report

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SpD sets with Bulk Up and Flame Body could be usuable.....in lower tiers

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2015 00:53:23 No.24860124 Report

Quoted By: >>24860579 >>24862449

>>24860047
Crobat does anything Talon wants to do but better.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2015 02:17:17 No.24860579 Report

Quoted By: >>24862471

>>24860124
And how exactly?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2015 02:48:19 No.24860761 Report

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>>24859881
>disliking bravest birb

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2015 02:51:35 No.24860785 Report

Quoted By: >>24864624 >>24864774

>>24859947
Gale Wings isn't the problem, u1850elo fags are.

inb4 smogon-fag, the real fags are people who thing smogon is wrong (and yes, I also play VGC)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2015 08:08:07 No.24862449 Report

Quoted By: >>24862471

>>24860124
>Crobat burns
>STAB poison is better than STAB fire
>Lower defense
Your only argument is defog.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2015 08:22:37 No.24862471 Report

Quoted By: >>24864650

>>24860579
>>24862449
Hits harder, is bulkier, breaks through walls and has a superior defensive typing. The one thing Talon has over Crobat is access boosting moves, and with Talon's mediocre stats they're not going to amount to anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2015 19:32:39 No.24864624 Report

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>>24860785
>(and yes, I also play VGC)
This is where your opinion stopped mattering

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2015 19:37:33 No.24864648 Report

Quoted By: >>24864672

I don't mind Talonflame or Gale Wings, but I think it should at least have slightly less Speed. Like 120.

Why they gave it Gale Wings and then 126 base speed too, I don't know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2015 19:38:10 No.24864650 Report

Quoted By: >>24864679 >>24864699

>>24862471
>Talon's mediocre stats they're not going to amount to anything.
>mediocre

sure

>+2 252 Atk Sharp Beak Talonflame Brave Bird vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Lucario: 381-448 (135.5 - 159.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
>+2 252 Atk Sharp Beak Talonflame Brave Bird vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Ampharos: 164-193 (50.9 - 59.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

>Mega Ampharos resists and has 90/105 bulk and still cant switch in on it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2015 19:39:57 No.24864670 Report

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It's not hard to beat with Thunderwave on your side

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2015 19:40:05 No.24864672 Report

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>>24864648
Most of the investments are put into bulk anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2015 19:41:10 No.24864679 Report

Quoted By: >>24864703

>>24864650
>+2

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2015 19:42:04 No.24864683 Report

Quoted By: >>24864690

But I like Talonflame! I like beating teams of legendary pokemon with early route shitmons. Not quite as epic as Moody Bibarel, but still a lot of fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2015 19:43:37 No.24864690 Report

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>>24864683

>Talonflame
>shitmon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2015 19:45:09 No.24864699 Report

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>>24864650
>+2
Lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2015 19:46:07 No.24864703 Report

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>>24864679
no shit sherlock we're talking about boosting with its mediocre stats

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2015 19:47:39 No.24864718 Report

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>People complaining about Talonflame when Gliscor is ten times the annoyance it will ever be

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2015 19:54:14 No.24864749 Report

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The worst thing about Talonflame is that he's not going to go away any time soon.

Gale Wings is such a bullshit ability. It should have never been introduced along with prankster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2015 20:03:11 No.24864774 Report

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>>24859947
>>24859966
>>24859981
>>24860785
Gale wings is not the problem you fags
brave bird is

remove brave bird from its moveset, there, no more broken bird, like unfezant who cant learn brave bird either

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2015 23:49:20 No.24865780 Report

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Don't worry he'll be overshadowed then they add the Gale WIngs equivalent for water types or electric types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2015 00:21:39 No.24865959 Report

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>>24859947
Gale Wings would be great on Mega-Pidgeot

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2015 03:33:45 No.24866918 Report

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>all that butthurt about best bird since 2013
>all those scrubs crying in terror
>all those grass/fighting/bug fags who can't stop crying
>m-muh rocks will help!
>they still got FUCKED because even with 5!% HP, Best bird will clean up the rest of their team
>mfw

LOVING
EVERY
LAUGH

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2015 04:30:01 No.24867179 Report

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>>24859881
If you are getting swept by talonflames, then you are trash. It's a good poke, but it has too many weaknesses and flaws for it to be something that causes this much butthurt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2015 05:01:19 No.24867305 Report

Quoted By: >>24867822 >>24867832 >>24867882 >>24869029 >>24870197 >>24870207

Who else would be monstrous with Gale Wings?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2015 07:00:21 No.24867822 Report

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>>24867305
Skarmory?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2015 07:01:44 No.24867832 Report

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>>24867305
Mega Rayquaza

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2015 07:10:28 No.24867870 Report

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>>24859881
I'm terrible at the game and talonflame doesn't even makes a dent on my team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2015 07:13:06 No.24867882 Report

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>>24867305
Staraptor

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2015 07:51:33 No.24868094 Report

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Never been swept by a talonflame

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2015 08:22:38 No.24868230 Report

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>>24859881
>Rockslide
>Opponent's Talonflame flinched
>Rockslide
>Opponent's Talonflame fainted
GG Try not to be so predictable next time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2015 08:25:57 No.24868252 Report

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Next gen will introduce an ability to give water type attacks priority.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2015 08:32:11 No.24868292 Report

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>>24859881
If it didn't, you'd probably of made the same thread about Sableye/Thundrurus/Rotom-W and complain about status spamming

If they didn't exist, you'd complain about Landorus-T or Mega Scizor and how boring it is to play against the same hyper offensive team over and over again

If not them, Heatran. If not him, Megas in general. Then exclusive broken abilities in general, then baton pass teams, weather, and so on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2015 12:32:20 No.24869029 Report

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>>24867305
literally everything with good flying STAB

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2015 12:55:32 No.24869086 Report

Quoted By: >>24869108

Talonflame is the most based pokemon ever for preventing cancerous pokemon from being OU with its existence alone. Thank you Talonflame.

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Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2015 13:01:01 No.24869095 Report

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I don't really like it and how it's broken Gamefreaks' previous attempts at balancing priority (Sucker Punch's limitations, Prankster only on non-attacking moves, most priority being 40 base power, Extremespeed's poor distribution and Normal-type) but most of my favorite Pokemon are Rock or Water anyway so it's never really been a big problem for me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2015 13:05:33 No.24869108 Report

Quoted By: >>24869601 >>24869660 >>24870201

>>24869086
> preventing cancerous pokemon from being OU
Any examples of so called cancerous pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2015 16:14:18 No.24869601 Report

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>>24869108
[your favorite OU mon] is complete cancer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2015 16:24:05 No.24869640 Report

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>>24859881
I wish megas never existed

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2015 16:28:37 No.24869660 Report

Quoted By: >>24870153 >>24870275

>>24869108

Generally the most cancerous pokemon in OU are agreed to be

>genies
>brave birb
>keldeo
>gliscor
>maybe Lati@s

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2015 18:25:13 No.24870153 Report

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>>24869660
>no clefable

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2015 18:35:31 No.24870197 Report

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>>24867305
Staraptor would likely be Uber with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2015 18:36:34 No.24870201 Report

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>>24869108
Any bug type, grass type or fighting type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2015 18:37:04 No.24870207 Report

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>>24867305
Archeops would obliterate shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2015 18:39:05 No.24870212 Report

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>>24860064

Without Gale Wings, Talonflame has more in common with Tornadus and Crobat than it does with Swellow. A UU/RU set without Gale Wings would probably look like this:

Talonflame @ Sharp Beak / Leftovers
Ability: Flame Body
EVs: 248 HP / 148 SpD / 112 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Bulk Up
- Brave Bird
- Roost
- Taunt / Will-O-Wisp

EVs and nature are to outspeed Infernape and Cobalion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2015 18:46:01 No.24870241 Report

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>>24860064
>And what is it going to do with that speed? Sweep opponents with its staggering overpowered whopping 81 attack stat?
Its attack stat doesnt really matter too much when it's clicking 120 base power moves constantly. Saying that gale wingless Tflame wouldnt be UU worthy is a bit of a stretch

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2015 18:55:10 No.24870275 Report

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>>24869660
Forgot 10 more minutes mom

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