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Anonymous Thu 24 Dec 2015 03:07:58 No.24877517 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>24877619 >>24877638

Why don't more people use the best spinblocker in the game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Dec 2015 03:08:54 No.24877519 Report

Quoted By: >>24877535

that's an odd picture of mega sableye

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Dec 2015 03:10:44 No.24877535 Report

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>>24877519
(megas not included)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Dec 2015 03:30:16 No.24877619 Report

Quoted By: >>24877996

>>24877517
>zero offensive presence
>knock off bait
>shitty movepool
What spinner can it even beat?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Dec 2015 03:35:35 No.24877638 Report

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>>24877517

Dusclops is the epitome of set-up bait.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Dec 2015 03:37:10 No.24877645 Report

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Defog exists now.

Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy

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Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy Thu 24 Dec 2015 03:42:16 No.24877663 Report

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They're just afraid.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 24 Dec 2015 04:27:04 No.24877911 Report

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>nearly the year of our good lord 2016
>carrying a spinblocker

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Dec 2015 04:37:24 No.24877996 Report

Quoted By: >>24878038 >>24878039 >>24878171 >>24878202 >>24879084 >>24880411 >>24880781

>>24877619
1. Literally every spinblocker is Knock Off bait aside from Megas.
2. You're severely underestimating it's capabilities as a Mean Look trapper.

252 HP / 252 Sp.Def w/ Eviolite

Mean Look
Will O Wisp
Curse
Rest

Bye bye Chansey, bye bye Clefable, bye bye Starmie, bye bye Keldeo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Dec 2015 04:41:43 No.24878038 Report

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>>24877996

>being this bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Dec 2015 04:41:47 No.24878039 Report

Quoted By: >>24878224

>>24877996
that set sucks shit. Your opponent is just going to switch to a counter right away 99% of the time so Mean Look is pointless. Bye bye Clefable? LOL have fun letting it set up CM to +6 while it either takes no damage from will o wisp/curse or just Softboils the damage off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Dec 2015 05:06:53 No.24878171 Report

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>>24877996
>Bye bye Keldeo
Someone's never played against substitute-calm mind set.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Dec 2015 05:13:19 No.24878202 Report

Quoted By: >>24878229

>>24877996
252+ Atk Life Orb Excadrill Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Eviolite Dusclops: 129-152 (45.4 - 53.5%) -- 86.7% chance to 2HKO after sandstorm damage

if you want a spin deterrant run rocky chomp + sableye

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Dec 2015 05:15:55 No.24878224 Report

Quoted By: >>24878230 >>24878270

>>24878039
You're an idiot. It can't do anything to Magic Guard Clefable, but if you think Unaware Clefable can easily heal off Curse and Burn to +6 then you're really stupid and bad at this game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Dec 2015 05:16:58 No.24878229 Report

Quoted By: >>24878242 >>24878253

>>24878202
>what is will o wisp
It's like you don't even play the game. Life Orb isn't even the most popular item on Ex

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Dec 2015 05:17:01 No.24878230 Report

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>>24878224

You'd bad at this game if you even consider running such a shit set

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Dec 2015 05:19:55 No.24878242 Report

Quoted By: >>24878533

>>24878229
>implying Dusclops is faster than Excadrill
>implying excadrill is switching into dusclops and not the other way around when excadrill is a spinner and dusclops a spin blocker
>implying life orb isn't the item of choice on sand rush variants (hence why sand damage was part of the calculation to begin with)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Dec 2015 05:21:56 No.24878253 Report

Quoted By: >>24878533

>>24878229

Are you fucking insane? The point of a spinblocker is that it can switch IN on spinners, not be in on them to begin with. Life Orb is the most common item on Sand Rush Excadrill. You're fucking dumb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Dec 2015 05:25:09 No.24878270 Report

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>>24878224
>bye bye Clefable

You fucking didn't specify Unaware Clefable, which is an incredibly rare set compared to Magic Guard.

You know what? Tell us your Showdown name. We'll all be able to see how shit you are by your rank.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Dec 2015 06:24:39 No.24878533 Report

Quoted By: >>24878544

>>24878253
>sand rush excadrill
>implying that's nearly as common as mold breaker
Confirmed idiot.

>>24878242
Wisp then Rest, retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Dec 2015 06:26:48 No.24878544 Report

Quoted By: >>24878550

>>24878533
>wisp then rest
YOU'RE 2HKO'D ON THE SWITCH YOU AUTIST

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Dec 2015 06:29:26 No.24878550 Report

Quoted By: >>24878583

>>24878544
What do you think Spinblocking is for, retard?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Dec 2015 06:37:25 No.24878583 Report

Quoted By: >>24878598

>>24878550
If your opponent has LO Exca on the field, blocking a spin is an after thought, you need to focus on tanking a potential EQ first and foremost. Especially since half of sand rush excadrills carry SD instead of spin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Dec 2015 06:41:23 No.24878598 Report

Quoted By: >>24878619

>>24878583
>implying it's that difficult to anticipate
I could just as easily switch in Rotom W, especially if it's an offensive Excadrill

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Dec 2015 06:47:37 No.24878619 Report

Quoted By: >>24878622

>>24878598
>>implying it's that difficult to anticipate
This is such a nothing argument, ESPECIALLY if you start bringing other team mates in, because it goes both ways and the excadrill player could just as easily anticipate your actions.

Look, Dusclops is a bad pokemon. It's inferior to sableye as a spin blocker and a general ghost type altogether, plus spinblocking as a whole is largely irrelevant because of defog.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Dec 2015 06:48:34 No.24878622 Report

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>>24878619
>because it goes both ways and the excadrill player could just as easily anticipate your actions.
Same goes for you

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 24 Dec 2015 09:04:47 No.24879084 Report

Quoted By: >>24880429

>>24877996
Anon I used to use a Dusclops all the damn time and you're better off running Pain Split rather than Rest+Talk.
That set is just awful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Dec 2015 09:59:37 No.24879408 Report

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>not running Air Balloon Chandelure for sicknasty triple immunities + one temporary immunity
do you even UU

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Dec 2015 13:07:19 No.24880396 Report

Quoted By: >>24881066

There is an equal chance the opponent will use Defog so you may as well use Bisharp, who defogblocks with presence alone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Dec 2015 13:10:40 No.24880411 Report

Quoted By:

>>24877996
>Knock off bait
good thing my spinblocker is also my mega :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Dec 2015 13:17:11 No.24880429 Report

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>>24879084
Are you retarded? Who said anything about talk? Rest + Chansey Aromatherapy is the way to go.

Pain Split is utterly stupid when you're trapping and wearing mons down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Dec 2015 13:29:43 No.24880458 Report

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I'm planning to use one in my gale of darkness playthrough if that counts.But otherwise it's pretty mediocre

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Dec 2015 14:23:31 No.24880656 Report

Quoted By: >>24880830

You fucking wot m8? Dusclops doesn't even learn Rapid Spin you idiot

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Dec 2015 15:03:13 No.24880781 Report

Quoted By:

>>24877996
verlis pls

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Dec 2015 15:18:53 No.24880830 Report

Quoted By:

>>24880656
>being this retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Dec 2015 16:09:15 No.24881066 Report

Quoted By: >>24882842

>>24880396
Is there any merit to running 3 attacks + stealth rock Bisharp, similar to 3 attacks + rocks krookodile in UU? I feel like a defiant user who sets his own hazards would be a massive pain in the ass for defoggers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Dec 2015 22:55:29 No.24882842 Report

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>>24881066
there's enough good setters to choose from in OU and one of bisharp's big advantages is all the guessing games he can force on you with SD, sucker and regular attack. making him a pebble setter takes away a part of his mindgaming

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