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Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2015 06:37:26 No.24910560 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>24910806 >>24910973 >>24915048 >>24915113 >>24915705 >>24915923 >>24916151

can we all agree that Gen 4 has the best starters?

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Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2015 06:51:05 No.24910626 Report

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Gen 4 has the best trio, but Treecko is the best
Purely design-wise

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2015 06:57:13 No.24910661 Report

Quoted By: >>24910675 >>24910700 >>24910795 >>24915068 >>24915913

>God Tier
1, 3, 4, 6

>Bad, but not gen 5 bad Tier
2

>Gen 5 Tier
5

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2015 06:57:32 No.24910662 Report

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How anyone can say gen 1 wasn't the best is beyond me. Everything after that is just trying too hard to be gen 1.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2015 06:58:35 No.24910666 Report

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>>24910662

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Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2015 06:59:43 No.24910675 Report

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>>24910661
>this

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Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2015 07:02:01 No.24910684 Report

Quoted By: >>24910728

1 is the best, and I think that mostly because of how unified Squirtle, Bulbasaur and Charmander's designs are. Gen 2's are as well but to a significantly lesser extent, and after that the starter trios feel way less unified as a whole.

But Squirtle, Bulbasaur and Charmander? Similar colours, similar facial structure, 3 different types of reptile properly distinguished by their proportions and element, they're great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2015 07:08:31 No.24910700 Report

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>>24910661
Bump Gen 6 down to

>Bad except for Greninja Tier

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2015 07:11:19 No.24910709 Report

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-Muay Thai Monkey would be cooler if weren't just a rehash of Kung Fu Chicken.

-Empoleon's low speed stat makes Gen 4's pacing even more excruciating, and it not learning Flash Cannon as a level up move is asinine.

-Torterra suffers from being an all round shitmon in general. Worst typing out of anything that isn't named Aurorus.

6>3=1>4>5>2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2015 07:13:10 No.24910717 Report

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>>24910709
>6
>highest

6 is highest in concept (rpg classes, second type triangle doubling down on weaknesses) but its actual designs are just too subpar.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2015 07:13:12 No.24910718 Report

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>>24910709
>Torterra
>Bad
how many niggas do you know that carry an ice type around SPECIFICALLY for the event of a torterra

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Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2015 07:15:51 No.24910727 Report

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>>24910718
How many niggas do you know that don't have a strong fire or ice type in general for all the things that aren't torterra? Like say Gliscor, or scizor? Or ferrothorn? Garchomp or dragonite?

Torterra is shit but has weaknesses that heavily overlap with things that aren't shit, making those weaknesses highly prevalent and doubly screwing him over.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2015 07:15:53 No.24910728 Report

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>>24910684
I dunno man. 6 is pretty unified.
Ninja. Wizard. Knight. The RPG trio.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2015 07:17:12 No.24910732 Report

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>>24910728
Conceptually but definitely not visually. Greninja's paper flat, hyper geometric body looks like he's from an entirely different game than Delphox.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2015 07:17:58 No.24910738 Report

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>>24910717
>its actual designs are just too subpar
Greninja has a tongue scarf so your mother is a whore.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2015 07:22:27 No.24910761 Report

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>>24910738
Greninja's tongue scarf never even really felt like his tongue to me and just looked like a disconnected pink sock, mostly because we don't have clear enough shots of it coming out of his mouth. He and his design would benefit significantly from one or two animations where the tongue unravels to help show its prehensile nature wrapping around his head.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2015 07:23:38 No.24910766 Report

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>>24910732
>Greninja's paper flat
Isn't that the point? Frog hands are flat and its head's supposedly some kind of origami thing

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Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2015 07:26:49 No.24910776 Report

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>>24910718
Well yeah, that's the point. Nobody carries anything specifically for torterra because why carry anything specifically for a shitmon. What they actually do however is carry Ice Punch/Ice Beam/HP Ice for coverage and fuck it INCIDENTALLY.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2015 07:29:35 No.24910795 Report

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>>24910661
Gen 5 has Serperior though.

Gen 2 has absolutely nothing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2015 07:31:39 No.24910806 Report

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>>24910560
Ok, but which one is the best second-stage starter?

It's a tie between Grovyle and Dewott for me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2015 07:34:24 No.24910814 Report

Quoted By: >>24910819

>>24910806
You know, why did Croconaw adopt a caveman motif that totodile didn't have, and then feraligatr dropped again?

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Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2015 07:36:24 No.24910818 Report

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>>24910806
Oh Gen1 for sure. Grovyle is great, I'll give you that. It's just not great enough to make up for a ballsack.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2015 07:36:36 No.24910819 Report

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>>24910814
One could argue that Feraligatr is supposed to have arm hair and a loincloth

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Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2015 08:48:40 No.24910973 Report

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>>24910560
>can we all agree
No

>Gen 4 has the best starters
Yeah

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2015 08:51:12 No.24910979 Report

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>>24910795
Gen 2 are good but kind of bland

Gen 5 are shit including Serperior

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Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2015 10:51:30 No.24911238 Report

Quoted By: >>24915715

3 > 1 > 2 > 4 > 5 > 6

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Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2015 11:02:57 No.24911267 Report

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I think gen one has the best starters (and no I didn't grow up playing fire red) I actually started with gen four and I do love them but I love the first gen more but 4th is my second fav

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Anonymous Wed 30 Dec 2015 19:57:03 No.24912846 Report

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4 = 1 > 3 = 6 > 2 > 5

Gen 2 at least had a couple of decent starters. 5 didn't even really have that. And I say that as someone who likes Gen 5.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2015 00:33:02 No.24915048 Report

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>>24910560
>God Tier
1, 3, 4 (Variety in typing, good design, most are good in competitive battle)
>Ok Tier
6 (Expect Greninja)
>Meh
2 (Really Basic Pokemon, not as viable in competitive battle)
>Shit Tier
5 (Expect Serperior, really good in battle but design is very basic)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2015 00:35:39 No.24915068 Report

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>>24910661
I can agree with this mostly.

Really 5 was the only ones I didn't like. Minus Serperior

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2015 00:39:13 No.24915110 Report

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Venusaur 3/5 - Charizard 4/5 Blastoise 4/5 = 11/15

Meganium 1/5 - Typhlosion 4/5 - Feraligatr 3/5 = 8/15

Sceptile 4/5 - Blaziken 5/5 - Swampert 4/5 = 13/15

Torterra 2/5 - Infernape 4/5 - Empoleon 5/5 = 11/15

Serperior 4/5 - Emboar 3/5 - Samurott 3/5 = 10/15

Chesnaught 3/5 - Delphox 1/5 - Greninja 4/5 = 8/15

Hoenn>Sinnoh=Kanto>Unova>Johto=Kalos for me

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2015 00:39:40 No.24915113 Report

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>>24910560
>can we al-
No.

There isn't really a single set of starters I entirely love. I'd pick Gen VI or III if I have to come to a decision. Then V, IV, II, and I.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2015 01:59:07 No.24915705 Report

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>>24910560
Nope. Gen 3 all the way.

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Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2015 02:00:55 No.24915715 Report

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>>24911238
Switch 2 with 6 and it's perfect

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2015 02:27:56 No.24915913 Report

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>>24910661
This is so true. You're gonna make a lot of dumb faggots cry by saying it. I shall watch and enjoy it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2015 02:30:18 No.24915923 Report

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>>24910560
1>6>2>3>4>5

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Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2015 03:11:22 No.24916151 Report

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>>24910560
Gen 3, actually.
4 isn't bad, 6 is slightly better because the starters look good together though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Dec 2015 03:12:55 No.24916163 Report

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>>24910795
Serperior is possibly the worst of the lot. Samurott's line started shit and ended shit, Snivy started promising and spiraled into disappointment. All the "le smugleaf" memes in the world can't save that mess of a design.

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