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Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2016 11:00:16 No.24936279 View View Reply Original Report

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Steel is OP, let's gonna fix it:
>Electric: super-effective, cause steel conducts electricity (also magnetism and that shit)
>Dragon: Normal damage
>Steel: Normal damage
>Psychic: Super effective, cause phichics bends spoons and other metal objects as training
>Acid attack is super.effective in it

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2016 11:05:14 No.24936285 Report

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>>24936279

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2016 11:06:48 No.24936290 Report

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>>24936285
>Psychic
>Can't outsmart steel
kek'd

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2016 11:13:41 No.24936300 Report

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>>24936285
That's retarded
>Fight: hard hits bends and breaks it
>Fire: steel conducts heat and melts
>Ground: Earthquakes breaks buildings and earth particles spoil mahines

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2016 11:22:59 No.24936309 Report

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>>24936279
>Steel is Op, lets fix it
>not fixing Fairy-type
Steel ain't broken, assbucket. Its the most balance type in the game. Great defensively but terrible for offensive. No non-Steel type Pokemon uses Steel-type moves unless they have nothing better to run. Plus Steel lost 2 resistance this Gen

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2016 11:28:11 No.24936318 Report

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10 resistance and 1 inmunity. that's OP

>>24925542 (OP)

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>>24925542 (OP) Sun 03 Jan 2016 12:10:39 No.24936383 Report

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How about a psychic-attack that`s special-effective against steel-types (just the way freeze-dry is special effective against water types) as reference to alakazam bending spoons and other metal objects with his minds

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2016 12:25:55 No.24936399 Report

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>>24936383
Spoons aren't tanks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2016 13:20:58 No.24936500 Report

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>>24936383
This could work, that way psychics don't have to rely on focus miss. I also like that acid move idea that would be the poison equivalent of that

>>24925542 (OP)

>>24925542 (OP) Sun 03 Jan 2016 13:24:06 No.24936506 Report

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>>24936500
yeah, poison types could really need a buff like that

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2016 20:11:12 No.24938117 Report

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>>24936506
rip boo-boo keys and double jaw

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2016 20:19:03 No.24938138 Report

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>>24936285
You know what's dumb as hell? Most steel is terrible in the cold. It becomes incredibly brite at about -60 degrees and will shatter under a rather minor impact. Ice should be SE.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2016 20:20:06 No.24938143 Report

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>>24938138
*brittle

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2016 20:23:22 No.24938158 Report

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>>24936279
Grass is super effective now because roots can tear through it, like it does with Ground and Rock.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2016 20:28:25 No.24938182 Report

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>>24936279

Steel conducting electricity doesn't mean it's harmed by it. It makes perfect sense that it's neutral to it.

Steel is the only type that resists dragon. Without it fairy immunity would be the only way to deal with dragon offense.

Psychic isn't particularly effective against steel, it's just strong enough to bend steel, but it still has a harder time doing it. Metal blocks psychic attacks in fiction, i.e. tinfoil hats, Magneto's helmet against Charles.

Neutral to itself and Acid thing is fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2016 20:33:47 No.24938211 Report

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>>24936279

Just make Steel weak to Water, because it causes them to rust.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2016 20:34:36 No.24938218 Report

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>>24938211

>buff water even more

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2016 20:36:39 No.24938238 Report

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>>24938218
>not making Water weak to Poison

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2016 20:38:30 No.24938245 Report

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>>24938238

And then making it strong against steel would put it right back where it was, or still higher.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2016 20:43:22 No.24938275 Report

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>>24938245

It would be more of a tradeoff than a straight buff. Also, it's pretty dumb that Water is super-effective against Ground. It should be neutral at best, because the water fucks up the ground by making mud, but the ground similarly fucks up the water.

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Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2016 20:54:18 No.24938346 Report

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>>24936383
>>24936399
>>24936500

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2016 21:02:47 No.24938390 Report

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>>24936383
>Ferromancy
Type: Psychic
Damage type: Special
Base damage: 80
Description: Is Super Effective against Steel-types.

>>24936500
>Acid Bath
Type: Poison
Damage type: Special
Base damage: 80
Description: Is Super Effective against Steel-types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2016 21:13:21 No.24938449 Report

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>>24936279
I think the nerf/buff to steel for Gen 6 was fair. Lose 2 resistances to Ghost and Dark, and hit super effectively against Fairy.

Bonus to the type nerfing is that Ghost and Dark are very spammable moves now, Only dark and normal types are going to slow down ghosts, and dark spam is on the rise with so many mons in the higher ladder not having a resistance to it.

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Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2016 21:15:38 No.24938462 Report

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>>24938390

The moves would need 70 BP or less to match Freeze-Dry. There has to be some incentive to still use the higher powered moves like Sludge Bomb.

Hell, you don't even need new moves.

Acid: against Steel types, doubles BP to 80 and is super effective. (still 40 BP against other types)

Telekinesis: now also deals 70 BP (less than psyshock) and is super effective against Steel types. As a trade off, still levitates them, making them ignore ground moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2016 22:27:42 No.24938849 Report

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>>24938182
>Steel is the only type that resists dragon. Without it fairy immunity would be the only way to deal with dragon offense.
Dragon attacks are only effective against itself, is logical if only fairy can resist it
>Psychic isn't particularly effective against steel, it's just strong enough to bend steel, but it still has a harder time doing it. Metal blocks psychic attacks in fiction, i.e. tinfoil hats, Magneto's helmet against Charles.
That's right, you got me

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Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2016 22:29:30 No.24938863 Report

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>>24938346
>OPM

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2016 22:33:47 No.24938885 Report

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>>24938863
>worst girl

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2016 22:34:55 No.24938893 Report

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>>24938390
Also:
>Electromagnetism
Type: electric
Damage type: Special
Base damage: 80
Description: Is Super Effective against Steel-types.
>Gravity
Type: Earth
Damage type: Special
Base damage: 80
Description: Is Super Effective against Flying types
Diamond storm is super effective in steel and rock cause there's nothing more hard than a diamond

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2016 22:42:04 No.24938934 Report

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>>24936279
Ice is awful defensively but good offensively.

Steel is bad offensively but strong defensively; and it already got nerfed.

And making Dragon unresisted [Except the Fairy Immunity; not a resist] would cause far too many issues.

Yes; Steel was a balance bandage like Fairy which is why some stuff makes little sense just like Fairy's chart.

Honestly make Steel resist Dark again [Dark is too good right now now that it actually has an attack which can be above 80 BP]; and make Steel not resist Psychic [Spoon Bending, anyone?] because Psychic needs a buff.

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Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2016 22:46:43 No.24938967 Report

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>>24938885
>neptunia

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 03 Jan 2016 23:04:31 No.24939094 Report

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Fire should resist every type and be effective against every type.

>>24936285

>Normal
What the fuck is a Tackle gonna do to a forest fire?
>Fighting
Ever tried punching fire?
>Poision
Ever tried to poison fire?
>Water
Fire evaporates that stuff.
>Fire
Of course fire resists itself.
>Grass
Ridiculous.
>Ice
kek
>Electric
Overheats the surroundings even more, thus more fire.
>Dragon
Fire kills dragons.
>Ground
Fire damages the soil and feeds from debris.
>Rock
Okay, you throw a rock at a forest fire. Now what?
>Flying
Fire kills birds.
>Psychic
Cant outsmart fire.
>Ghost
Fire burns ghosts.
>Dark
Fire expels the darkness.
>Fairy
kek
>Bug
KEK
>Steel
TOPKEK

Meta: Fixed
Also, Flareon fixed

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2016 03:18:01 No.24940805 Report

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>>24936279
fuck you faggot, steel is nerfed way too hard shithead

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