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Wasted Potential

Anonymous Fri 08 Jan 2016 21:12:23 No.24968760 View View Reply Original Report

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Wasted potential thread
Pic related
Such an amazing design
Great stats
> No physical electric moves
> One day gamefreak you will give electrolion volt tackle

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jan 2016 21:13:44 No.24968772 Report

Quoted By: >>24968812 >>24969560 >>24980723

>>24968760

>What is Wild Charge

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 08 Jan 2016 21:16:11 No.24968792 Report

Quoted By: >>24969081 >>24971514

> Also tons of dragons

>Kingdra
>Flygon
>Ditto
>Druddigon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jan 2016 21:16:57 No.24968796 Report

Quoted By: >>24968822

>>24968760
>No physical electric moves
even with the recoil Wild Charge is decent, it's the fangs moves that are too weak to be considered coverage
>Great stats
no, great BST, shit stats distribution

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jan 2016 21:17:36 No.24968803 Report

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>great stats

70 base speed paper defences

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jan 2016 21:18:42 No.24968810 Report

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>>24968760
It should've been Electric/Dark.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jan 2016 21:19:10 No.24968812 Report

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>>24968772
Wow, I never realized wild charge was only 90 bp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jan 2016 21:21:19 No.24968822 Report

Quoted By: >>24968828 >>24968863 >>24969295

>>24968796
120 attack with a meh speed tier should throw electrolion into an ok tier
Throw in poor general movepool and no real role in a team above RU
=Wasted Potential
=Name of the thread
=Gamefreak could have done something with it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jan 2016 21:23:03 No.24968828 Report

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>>24968822
Op here
Will admit tho
Great stats is wrong
Meant great attack stat
Legit rest is pretty shitty

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jan 2016 21:29:03 No.24968859 Report

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Bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jan 2016 21:30:11 No.24968863 Report

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>>24968822
>Dubs is guds

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Anonymous Fri 08 Jan 2016 21:33:03 No.24968875 Report

Quoted By: >>24968955 >>24969071

>>24968760
>Type: Normal

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Anonymous Fri 08 Jan 2016 21:37:47 No.24968909 Report

Quoted By: >>24968924 >>24969071 >>24975139

>>24968760
Fucking Defeatist

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jan 2016 21:40:04 No.24968924 Report

Quoted By: >>24968942 >>24968949 >>24969559

>>24968909
gets gale wings as a hidden ability in gen 7

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jan 2016 21:42:35 No.24968942 Report

Quoted By: >>24969295

>>24968924
=Justice
=Talonflame is dethroned as poketw@ of smogon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jan 2016 21:44:01 No.24968949 Report

Quoted By: >>24969295

>>24968924
=Dethrones Talonflame as the tw@ of smogon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jan 2016 21:44:52 No.24968955 Report

Quoted By: >>24969036

>>24968875
Well uhh.. what other type should it be? Dragon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jan 2016 21:49:21 No.24968978 Report

Quoted By: >>24969075

>>24968760
the real wasted potential is that Luxray isn't Electric/Dark

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jan 2016 21:57:55 No.24969036 Report

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>>24968955
Psychic obviously

Pokémon Master 77777768877

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Pokémon Master 77777768877 Fri 08 Jan 2016 22:00:28 No.24969058 Report

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Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 08 Jan 2016 22:03:51 No.24969071 Report

Quoted By: >>24969261

>>24968760
>Wild Charge is now 95 BP with 15% of recoil instead of 25%
>Luxrai gets Flamethrower

>>24968875
>Payday deals double the damage (+ technician) if the pokemon is holding an Amulet Coin and it also steals 2 PPs from all four opponent's moves

>>24968909
>Defeatist lowers the attack when HP is at 35% instead of 50% but the Speed also increases by one stage

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jan 2016 22:04:28 No.24969075 Report

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>>24968978

>A Pokemon with the Latin word for light in its name should be a Dark type

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jan 2016 22:05:13 No.24969081 Report

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>>24968792
Ditto?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jan 2016 22:14:56 No.24969146 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jan 2016 22:15:57 No.24969155 Report

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Well, that didn't work. The site has a filter. Fuck!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jan 2016 22:17:14 No.24969164 Report

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>>24968760
>volt tackle
pika exclusive

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jan 2016 22:26:03 No.24969210 Report

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>>24968760
>Volt Tackle
>On anything besides Pikachu

Top kek.

Please, there's already Wild Charge and I only want Pikachu to be the exclusive suicidal Electric.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jan 2016 22:31:31 No.24969243 Report

Quoted By: >>24969276

Give it gale wings electric addition

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jan 2016 22:35:32 No.24969261 Report

Quoted By: >>24969270 >>24970168

>>24969071
>Gets flamethrower yes
> Special attack is nothing compared to attack
>Wasted Potential
>Its the name of the ~~game~~ thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jan 2016 22:36:39 No.24969270 Report

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>>24969261
Newfag trying new things
Its ~~fucked~~ great

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jan 2016 22:38:33 No.24969276 Report

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>>24969243
Archeops or Luxray?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jan 2016 22:42:13 No.24969295 Report

Quoted By: >>24969531

>>24968822
>>24968942
>>24968949
=What are you doing

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jan 2016 23:42:24 No.24969531 Report

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>>24969295
=2016
=not equaltexting
shiggies in my diggy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jan 2016 23:51:20 No.24969559 Report

Quoted By: >>24969647 >>24972730

>>24968924
Get's quick banned to ubers

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jan 2016 23:51:40 No.24969560 Report

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>>24968772
>90 BP move with recoil damage
What fucking bullshit is that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jan 2016 23:55:33 No.24969570 Report

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>amazing design
>it's a long legged rat with unkempt, patchy fur

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2016 00:09:39 No.24969620 Report

Quoted By: >>24970160 >>24972534 >>24972728

>>24968760

Mega Luxray
Electric/Normal
80
154 (+34)
90 (+11)
95
90 (+11)
114 (+44)
Ability: Strong Jaw

reasons for normal:
- early route critter
- can run STAB return or facade to deal with burns/tox, immune to para anyway
- helps it deal with ghosts despite not being a dark type

- strong jaw for obvious reasons
- outspeeds serperior by one point, because fuck that thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2016 00:17:57 No.24969647 Report

Quoted By: >>24969691

>>24969559
Ubers?
Did you say Anything Goes or was that not an autocorrect?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2016 00:28:54 No.24969691 Report

Quoted By: >>24970160 >>24972366

>>24969647
With Gale Wings, Archeops would be god tier but not quite Mega-Rayquaza tier. Hey, maybe though. I'd love to see it happen.

Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy

Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy Sat 09 Jan 2016 01:55:13 No.24970160 Report

Quoted By: >>24970339 >>24972460

>>24969620
I think it'd be better off if you just kept it pure Electric.

>>24969691
I dunno, it kinda sucks that your strongest Flying attack is Acrobatics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2016 01:56:51 No.24970168 Report

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>>24969261
exactly it would be a waste not to make also use of that SpAtk

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2016 02:06:21 No.24970240 Report

Quoted By: >>24970339

I always thought Eelektross would make a good psuedo legendary. More interesting than another dragon. Just toss another 85 into speed and it hits 600

Speaking of boring dragons, the Goomy line should have been part bug

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2016 02:18:32 No.24970339 Report

Quoted By: >>24970357 >>24970534

>>24970160
it kinda needs to have a second type
if its just a mega with only wilde charge as its best stab than its no better than Electivire
Ice,Dark,Fighting or Fairy be the best for luxray

>>24970240
Elektross Krookodile Haxorus or looked like psuedos
goodra could have be Poison

Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy

Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy Sat 09 Jan 2016 02:21:29 No.24970357 Report

Quoted By: >>24970739 >>24972374

>>24970339
I meant there's no real reason to make it Electric/Normal, Electric/Dark is fine especially if you're gonna give it Strong Jaw.

It really is a shame about Wild Charge, though. I guess Electric's really more of a special type.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2016 02:52:50 No.24970534 Report

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>>24970339
I could buy Krookodile and Haxorus as psuedos, but I'd rather have types we haven't had before

I was trying to look for pokemon from other gens that would make good psuedos, but theres a surprisingly small amount of three stage evolutionary lines that had all it's stages introduced in the same generation

Exploud would be a good psuedo I think. Toss it +10 in HP and +20 in everything else and it hits 600

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2016 03:36:15 No.24970739 Report

Quoted By: >>24971376

>>24970357

Dark makes no sense thematically, that's why it's a meme suggestion. Black =/= dark.

Even Electric/Ice is more appropriate, since it's part lynx, and also space themed and it's cold in space and shit. Also ice coverage would help deal with ground.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2016 05:45:22 No.24971376 Report

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>>24970739
"its also space themed"
literally what.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2016 06:18:44 No.24971514 Report

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>>24968792
It's pretty good in doubles. If you don't have an answer to swift swim kingdra like thundrus or Charizard Y you're dead meat. I like coupling it with a lightning rod pokemon. It's like not having an answer to shedinja in BH.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2016 11:29:31 No.24972366 Report

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>>24969691
> Suggests MegaRayquaza is above god
>Realise its way better than Arceus/ PokeGod

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2016 11:33:17 No.24972374 Report

Quoted By: >>24972745

>>24970357
> Give Electrolion Volt Tackle
> No more wasted potential as it will be a suicide attacker
>Choice Scarf/Band+Volt Tackle= More than useable

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2016 12:20:16 No.24972460 Report

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>>24970160
Archeops can easily be given brave bird or something
It would play well with defeatist, as it will deterr anone who just wants to spam the thing over and over

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2016 13:00:36 No.24972534 Report

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>>24969620

>early route critter

What is Bidoof

Also

>calling best Pokemon a critter

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2016 13:08:56 No.24972555 Report

Quoted By: >>24972713

>>24968760
>"Great stats"
>base 70 Speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2016 14:03:28 No.24972713 Report

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>>24972555
The trip that didn't read the whole thread
Real tragedy of 4chan
And a Wasteof Potential

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2016 14:09:02 No.24972728 Report

Quoted By: >>24974349

>>24969620
Could see that happening
Would put pressure ob the uberghosts Gengar and Aegislash
A mega with a good speed tier which threatens with strong jaw crunch+good attack stat which cant be hit by stab shadow ball
Yet would still be frail to Earthquake from major users such as Garchomp
Anon I think you may be onto something useable to gefreak
Now you need a electric/normal design which doesnt deviate too much from initial design and you are winrar!

>If only gamefreak payed attention to this board....

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2016 14:09:27 No.24972730 Report

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>>24969559
It doesn't have Brave Bird and to use Acrobatics at full force you must have no item. No it won't move up to Ubers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2016 14:15:27 No.24972745 Report

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>>24972374
But that's wrong.
At least it had as a total BST, Braviary had a similar spread.
With 123 Attack, 80 Speed and Defiant and already access to Brave Bird, a secondary STAB, Superpower, U-Turn and other moves, Braviary is still just... there.

You can say that because it faces competition with Staraptor (Talonflame albeit a Flying-Attacker, is more of a cleaner than a wallbreaker) is less used and that Luxray will be alone on that niche; but 70 Speed even with Scarf is slow.
+Spe Base 70 pass only by 1 point at level 50 base 130, so you're already sacrificing power for speed.
If you go Adamant, it'll be slower than other Wallbreakers, a lot of the base 100 uses a little speed investment to surpass base 70 already.

Luxray is basically Electric-Flareon with Crunch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2016 14:26:40 No.24972775 Report

Quoted By: >>24975159

Luxray is like the Black Kyurem of common mons. Also, would a Dark-type addition even fit it? Like others have said its name has lux/light in it and it doesn't really seem associated with dickishness or misfortune.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2016 21:19:28 No.24974349 Report

Quoted By: >>24974354 >>24974872 >>24978535

>>24972728
Makes sense
Luxray definitely needs speed.
Most of the unusable mons are either because of a poor speed tier, glass defences, or shite movepool

Can I also say Cradily could get a decent mega?
Cradily was a solid defence/setup in dpp days and kept a small niche in bwbw2 days
Its fell into dissue as its role was replaced by better mons (Namely Ferrothorn in particular in bw)
I could see mega cradily as a strong defensive core-just needs a bit of polish and cradily can return to a usage tier (not OU perhaps but maybe UU)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2016 21:20:30 No.24974354 Report

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>>24974349
Also *bump*

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2016 23:14:38 No.24974872 Report

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>>24974349
Grass/Rock?
Nah...

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2016 23:35:04 No.24974979 Report

Quoted By: >>24975144 >>24980750

It's fast, that's about it, really.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2016 23:59:59 No.24975139 Report

Quoted By: >>24975177

>>24968909
I don't get why people hate Defeatist. Archeops has no defenses whatsoever so it doesn't even matter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2016 00:01:09 No.24975144 Report

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>>24974979
It's the prime example why dragon by itself is a shit stab.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2016 00:03:47 No.24975159 Report

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>>24972775
With Strong Jaw it wouldn't even need to be Dark type. Like op said Normal would be good because if strong Facade/Returns.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2016 00:07:25 No.24975177 Report

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>>24975139
>switches in on resisted move
>attacking stats now halved
With any other ability at least it would be able to threaten something before it dies

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2016 00:11:52 No.24975203 Report

Quoted By: >>24980731

>johto starters

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2016 14:08:14 No.24978535 Report

Quoted By: >>24980370

>>24974349
It actually got weaker with DPP and was a fucking beast tank in RSE
I'd also like to see Mega-Armaldo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2016 21:10:35 No.24980370 Report

Quoted By: >>24980686

>>24978535
I kno thats why the hoenn fossils need megas
Cradily way more than Armaldo imo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2016 21:50:50 No.24980686 Report

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>>24980370
Armaldo was shite

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2016 21:55:55 No.24980723 Report

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>>24968772
Wild Charge is a bad move, anon. That's what it is and always will be. A bad move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2016 21:56:56 No.24980731 Report

Quoted By: >>24983184

>>24975203
>not knowing that Sheer Force made Feraligatr one of the most viable starters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2016 21:59:02 No.24980750 Report

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>>24974979
this. should have gotten nasty plot or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2016 05:19:22 No.24983184 Report

Quoted By: >>24984416

>>24980731
Yeah, but none of them were particularly good before they got their HAs released. Aside from Gatr, it has done fuck-all to raising their viability and overall, they're still the worst set of starters.

>Meganium
There's really nothing that can be done with this one.

>Typhlosion
Give it something good that will give it an edge over base Charizard. Some special coverage would be nice!

>Gatr
A better speed tier would push it up a bit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2016 12:25:05 No.24984416 Report

Quoted By: >>24986827

>>24983184
Despite this, quite a lot of the starters are amazing due to HAs
See Contrary Serperior, Sheer Force Feraligatr, Protean Greninja and Speed Boost Blaziken for example

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2016 12:29:51 No.24984428 Report

Quoted By: >>24984484

>>24968760
this board complain about the cliche Electric/dark with Strong jaw
But it would help him alot
and like +50 base speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2016 12:54:30 No.24984484 Report

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>>24984428
The electic/normal some anon suggested seems better suited and better thought out than electric/dark

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Jan 2016 21:49:27 No.24986827 Report

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>>24984416
Fuck protean greninja
Cheap ass fuck

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