>>24977958It's not that bad. They're my least favorite games in the series, but I still enjoyed them. My biggest gripe was actually how little Kalos felt like it's own region. Kanto starters at the beginning holding mega stones as if to say "now the REAL stars of the show are here!", Snorlax blocking the road, Viridian Forest copypaste, Lapras gift, 6th gym is identical to Sabrina's, spinner tiles in villain's hideout, Lucario as a forced first mega, tons of fan favorites right at the beginning of the game, etc. The whole thing felt like "Pokémon: the 3D experience" to me, and that's not why I play these games. Seeing all these callbacks might be amazing to other people, on the other hand.
They definitely have a ton of new content, customization is a ton of fun
if you picked the girl, boys get jack shit, it's certainly very nice to look at, and a ton of quality of life improvements were added to training and breeding.
I feel you would've enjoyed them a lot better at launch, though. An amazing aspect of being "Pokémon: the 3D experience" was the simultaneous worldwide launch. Discovering the region on your own, battling and trading with people around the world with your ingame teams as you went on your journey. Definitely my fondest memories of X/Y.
