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Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2016 21:54:23 No.25018605 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>25018635 >>25018638 >>25018720 >>25018808 >>25018977 >>25022234

How do we fix these shits?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2016 21:55:23 No.25018610 Report

Quoted By: >>25018637 >>25018829

By finding better hobbies than Smogonfaggotry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2016 21:59:10 No.25018628 Report

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Rock and ice are horrible typings for things that are supposed to be taking hits.

Steel is better but it lacks offensive pressure and reliable recovery.

Gigas is just fucked hard by its ability and it doesnt even get protect.

Someone over at gamefreak really hates the regis.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2016 22:00:28 No.25018635 Report

Quoted By: >>25018643

>>25018605
>not opening some funny tabs
Are you even trying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2016 22:01:01 No.25018637 Report

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>>25018610
This.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2016 22:01:12 No.25018638 Report

Quoted By: >>25018790

>>25018605

>Regirock

Give it Regenerator.

Pokedex entry: " If any part chips off in battle, it attaches rocks to repair itself."

>Regice

It's a pure Ice-type, so it's unsalvageable. Although if they buffed Heatproof to make the Pokemon completely immune to Fire-type attacks and burns, that'd be a good ability for it.

Pokedex entry: "Its icy body is so cold, it will not melt even if it is immersed in magma."

>Registeel

Fine as is

>Regigigas

Remove Slow Start

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2016 22:02:30 No.25018643 Report

Quoted By: >>25019402

>>25018635
>digimon
>yugioh
>yokai watch

But anon, those are three of the biggest jokes in modern times.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2016 22:13:36 No.25018720 Report

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>>25018605
>smogon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2016 22:23:42 No.25018790 Report

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>>25018638
All these apart from Slow Start are good ideas. Regigigas without Slow Start would be oppressively strong. Instead, give him a recovery move of some sort (Slack Off, Recover, something), and make Slow Start not reset when switches occur. That way Gigas only has to be out on the field in a weakened state for a TOTAL of five turns, instead of five turns every time he switches. Throw Protect on his moveset, and you have a chance of chipping away at the Slow Start turns with the right switching.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2016 22:27:26 No.25018808 Report

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>>25018605
give Regenerator to the trio and reduce Slow Start from 5 to 3 turns

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2016 22:30:23 No.25018829 Report

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>>25018610
They're trash either way and even jokes as legendary pokémon by in-game standards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2016 22:33:19 No.25018852 Report

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Better abilities

Aura Break for Regigigas, Regenerator+Weak Armor for Regirock, Refrigerate for Regice, something like Trace or Analytic for Registeel

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2016 22:33:30 No.25018855 Report

Quoted By: >>25018878

This PU thing is new for me, what does it mean?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2016 22:37:07 No.25018878 Report

Quoted By: >>25018903

>>25018855
It's a new tier, below NU. The letters don't stand for anything, but it's a joke on the fact that most pokemon that would be down there 'stink' competitively in any other tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2016 22:40:44 No.25018903 Report

Quoted By: >>25018909 >>25018913

>>25018878
Why was it created? Too many pokemon in NU?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2016 22:41:23 No.25018909 Report

Quoted By: >>25018932

>>25018903
Yep.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2016 22:41:58 No.25018913 Report

Quoted By: >>25018932 >>25019405

>>25018903
They were NU even in NU

Having to make a new tier every generation is why tierfaggotry isn't for me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2016 22:44:51 No.25018932 Report

Quoted By: >>25018962 >>25018966

>>25018909
>>25018913

Thanks for quick answers, guys. Those smogon tiers are really cancer.
My all time favorite is constantly in OU, so I probably shouldn't complain. I still think this whole system is a shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2016 22:46:14 No.25018936 Report

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Regice- No Guard to spam Blizzard and Zap Cannon

Regirock- Solid Rock

Registeel- Filter

Regigigas- Normalize

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2016 22:50:14 No.25018962 Report

Quoted By: >>25018999

>>25018932
And then there's FU which is below PU but isn't official

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2016 22:50:26 No.25018966 Report

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>>25018932
>Those smogon tiers are really cancer.
They're really not. As much as I dislike Smogon for their quick-to-ban, slow-to-reconsider style, the tier system is a highly sensible choice. Splitting Pokemon by usage puts the tiering up to the players, not some shadowy council, short of bans. A good Pokemon will get used more and rise in the tiers as the numerous people discover how to use them. It also gives players who want to use lesser-powered Pokemon (and as Karenfag as I can be, there is no arguing that some Pokemon are objectively worse than others) a chance to have them still be good. I play a lot of UU myself, since most of my favorite Pokemon are there and it allows me to avoid the cancer I would see in both OU and cart battles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2016 22:52:54 No.25018977 Report

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>>25018605
Wasn't regice OU in Gen 3?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2016 22:57:19 No.25018999 Report

Quoted By: >>25019038 >>25019384 >>25019427

>>25018962
Are there any fully evolved pokemon bad enough to be FU aside from Ledian?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2016 22:58:22 No.25019005 Report

Quoted By: >>25019045

>>25018966
I just want OUfags to shut the hell up.

Their shit shouldn't matter to me because I don't play the main games' multiplayer, plus I play other Pokemon games, where viability is different. But no, I still can't like a Pokemon for being okay in single player/contests/TCG/Mystery Dungeon because muh Talonflame

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2016 23:05:51 No.25019038 Report

Quoted By: >>25019406

>>25018999
Furret, dustox, and watchog who are all E rank there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jan 2016 23:07:05 No.25019045 Report

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>>25019005
nice job being a faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2016 00:13:10 No.25019384 Report

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>>25018999
Luxray and Meganium

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2016 00:16:28 No.25019402 Report

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>>25018643
you forgot pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2016 00:16:56 No.25019405 Report

Quoted By: >>25019409

>>25018913
I dont get whats so bad about tiers, it makes it so every pokemon is used somewhere

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2016 00:16:56 No.25019406 Report

Quoted By: >>25023242

>>25019038
>these pokemon are literally worse than marill, anorith and spritzee

oh well, at least literally no one likes watchog

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2016 00:18:02 No.25019409 Report

Quoted By: >>25019425 >>25019514

>>25019405
OUfags.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2016 00:19:24 No.25019425 Report

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>>25019409
elaborate

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2016 00:19:44 No.25019427 Report

Quoted By: >>25019448

>>25018999
http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/fu-viability-rankings.3542804/

pic related are literally the worst 4 fully evolved pokemon in the entire game

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2016 00:24:15 No.25019448 Report

Quoted By: >>25019461 >>25019470

>>25019427
>there are things worse than ledian
literally how

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2016 00:26:37 No.25019461 Report

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>>25019448
Ledian isn't good enough to be ranked at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2016 00:28:08 No.25019466 Report

Quoted By: >>25019587

>>25019425
People who only care about overall competitive viability and shove it down the throats of people who don't care or want to post artwork of a specific Pokemon rather than discuss its competitive usage

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Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2016 00:28:54 No.25019470 Report

Quoted By: >>25019474 >>25023249

>>25019448
I just noticed that ledian isn't even on the list for some reason

it's listed in e rank in the pu viability rankings page so idk

here is e rank in pu

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2016 00:30:03 No.25019474 Report

Quoted By: >>25019490 >>25019495

>>25019470
Wasn't Slaking OU in gen 3? How did this even happen?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2016 00:32:32 No.25019490 Report

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>>25019474
It turns out giving your opponent a free turn isn't a viable strategy. There are also bulkier Pokemon in the meta that can soak up his hits.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2016 00:33:41 No.25019495 Report

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>>25019474
>Roost
>Physical/Special split
>More set up sweepers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2016 00:38:32 No.25019514 Report

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>>25019409
Yeah, OUfags are dumb, but tiers aren't. Just like lots of things, hate the community, dont hate the thing they like

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2016 00:44:26 No.25019552 Report

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I love tiers and OU in particular because it gives a place for that piece of fucking shit Talonflame to go and not bother my favorite Pokemon. God forbid I like Bug types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2016 00:52:50 No.25019587 Report

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>>25019466
A person like that's just called a faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2016 00:55:11 No.25019600 Report

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All of them gain a mega, it adds ghost type to all of them, Regenerator for regis, and a less crippling ability+ little stat boost to gigas (maybe stall or something)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2016 01:24:09 No.25019738 Report

Quoted By: >>25019792

>>25018790
>Regigigas without Slow Start would be oppressively strong
yeah, ubers even. Where he should be. Faggot.
>implying he wouldn't be merely ok in ubers with geodeer and "my best counter is myself" primal groudon running around.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2016 01:35:24 No.25019792 Report

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>>25019738
Even with an ability like Pressure it might only be at high OU at best. It still has a terrible move pool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2016 01:37:00 No.25019800 Report

Quoted By: >>25019990

I remember when Regice was OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2016 02:17:33 No.25019990 Report

Quoted By: >>25021250

>>25019800
Hence why the move split was one of the worst things to happen to the series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2016 06:36:27 No.25021250 Report

Quoted By: >>25022208

>>25019990
Regice, Typhlosion and Sceptile are probably the only 3 pokemon to have been negatively affected by the split

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2016 11:34:39 No.25022208 Report

Quoted By: >>25023262

>>25021250

muh Ice Punch Gardevoir

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2016 11:38:47 No.25022234 Report

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>>25018605

>Regirock
Solid Rock
>Registeel
Filter

>Regice
Glacial Ice (or whatever, Ice-equivalent of Filter/Solid Rock)

>Regigigas
Slow Start
-Doubles Attack and Speed after 5 turns

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2016 16:20:28 No.25023242 Report

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>>25019406
I like Watchog.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2016 16:22:50 No.25023249 Report

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>>25019470
I thought Phione was ban worthy.

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Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2016 16:26:25 No.25023262 Report

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>>25022208
>tfw gardevoir has access to fire punch too

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2016 20:27:11 No.25024285 Report

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With mega-evolutions.

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