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>>25022579
It's a shame you didn't give it a special attack boost, it's only 3 points lower than its attack and it has a decent special movepool.

Oh well, /vp/ does seem to be allergic to mixed pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2016 14:12:16 No.25022750 Report

Quoted By: >>25022758 >>25023400 >>25028639

>>25022723
Mixed pokemon are almost always garbage, the few exceptions are high bst legends and pseudo legends.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2016 14:14:24 No.25022754 Report

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>>25022723
>decent special movepool

energy ball, surf and round

those are literally the only special moves gogoat has

kill yourself

Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy

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Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy Sun 17 Jan 2016 14:15:20 No.25022758 Report

Quoted By: >>25022764 >>25023400

>>25022750
Not necessarily.
Take Infernape for example. None of its stats are particularly impressive but it still manages to be a threat because it can be mixed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2016 14:17:05 No.25022764 Report

Quoted By: >>25022778 >>25029198

>>25022758
Infernape isn't especially good to begin with though.

Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy

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Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy Sun 17 Jan 2016 14:18:44 No.25022778 Report

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>>25022764
How so?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2016 14:46:13 No.25022888 Report

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>>25022704
>>25022723

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Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2016 15:05:20 No.25022977 Report

Quoted By: >>25029167

M-Lunatone
>Rock/Fairy
>Ability - Nocturne: All Moon-based moves are now 50% more effective
>Gains Lunar Dance

HP: 70
Attack: 55
Defense: 100 (+35)
Special Attack: 140 (+45)
Special Defense: 115 (+30)
Speed: 60 (-10)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2016 15:19:13 No.25023033 Report

Quoted By: >>25023036 >>25028476

all I can think of is Mega ButterFree
Bug/Psychic
-40 Atk
+70 Sp Atk
+70 Speed

I don't know about the Ability, Compound Eyes Sleep Powder is 2 gud but boring.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2016 15:20:19 No.25023036 Report

Quoted By: >>25023066

>>25023033
Simple.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2016 15:25:07 No.25023066 Report

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>>25023036
>+2 Sp.Atk +2 Speed +2 Sp.Def in one turn
oh shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2016 15:25:48 No.25023071 Report

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>>25023066
>STAB stored power

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2016 17:03:25 No.25023400 Report

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>>25022750
>>25022758

Also M-Altaria.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2016 23:44:41 No.25025527 Report

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Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 04:38:48 No.25027352 Report

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Honestly just wish this was his ability pre-evo.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 04:47:12 No.25027393 Report

Quoted By: >>25027413 >>25031281

>>25022579
Mega Slaking:
>Gains Iron Fist
>Stats go mostly to speed and some to defenses

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 04:52:03 No.25027413 Report

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>>25027393
Give it Stall
99 points redistributed from speed into attack + 100 attack
359 base attack

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 05:33:16 No.25027729 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 05:40:00 No.25027767 Report

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>>25027729
>implying Shuckle has any special attacks

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 05:43:41 No.25027792 Report

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Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 07:35:21 No.25028476 Report

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>>25023033
I prefer not to minmax where possible but if you really want it to mirror Megabee then chuck 30 from Atk into SpAtk.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 08:31:08 No.25028639 Report

Quoted By: >>25040385

>>25022750
>

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 09:02:40 No.25028761 Report

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>>25028476
with fur coat and quiver dance that is "fair"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 12:01:38 No.25029156 Report

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>>25022620
Thanks!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 12:06:13 No.25029167 Report

Quoted By: >>25033373

>>25022977
>50% more effective lunar dance
So the next pokemon to come out is fully healed, and the one after it is healed by half its max HP?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 12:18:08 No.25029198 Report

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>>25022764
Infernape was in OU till gen VI. And OU pokemon are really good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 13:45:34 No.25029427 Report

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30 posts in and not one of you has made a mega thread.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 18:05:20 No.25030538 Report

Quoted By: >>25034437

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 20:27:26 No.25031281 Report

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>>25027393
I think Mega Slaking should go one of 2 ways

1. Gain a useful/neutral ability, stats don't change

2. Still has Truant, stats are optimized as possible

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2016 02:06:09 No.25033373 Report

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>>25029167
How about it comes out with an Ancient Power buff in addition to HP/PP restoration and status removal?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2016 05:07:33 No.25034437 Report

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>>25030538
I could get behind that Lugia.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2016 05:17:02 No.25034477 Report

Quoted By: >>25037458

Mega Mantine

Water/Flying

Ability: parental bond (because of remoraid, who is a singular weaker creature which is always accompanying Mantine)

Hp:65
Atk: 40
Def: 90 (+20)
Spatk: 115 (+35)
Spdef:140
Spe:115 (+45)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2016 17:44:29 No.25037004 Report

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>>25025527
with a drop in attack and increase in defense this could be good

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2016 18:43:12 No.25037366 Report

Quoted By: >>25037391

Mega Bisharp
Dark/Steel
Bulletproof

HP: +0 (65)
Att: +40 (165)
Def: +30 (130)
SpA: +0 (60)
SpD: +0 (70)
Spd: +30 (100)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2016 18:45:41 No.25037391 Report

Quoted By: >>25037429

>>25037366
[LITERALLY ANYTHING] used [fighting move]

bye bye bisharp

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2016 18:52:12 No.25037429 Report

Quoted By: >>25037465

>>25037391

>Thundurus used Focus Blast!
>Bisharp is immune to Focus Blast!
>Bisharp used Knock Off!
>Thundurus fainted!

>[Anything] used [Rock type move]
>Talonflame fainted!

>[Anything] used [Ice type move]
>Garchomp fainted!

Is the extent of your fail clear to you yet? Because I can keep going.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2016 18:58:11 No.25037458 Report

Quoted By: >>25037472 >>25037553 >>25040210

>>25034477

As a general rule, unless a Mega is mixed, has an offensive boosting Ability like Parental Bond/Tough Claws/Mega Launcher, or is defensively oriented to the point where the very notion of offensive boosting would be absurd (like Megas Audino and Sableye), EVERY Mega has at least 130 in their main offensive stat, even if they're usually used defensively. See M-Venusaur and M-Slowbro.

A Mega with 115 as their only useable offensive stat is just garbage. Lose some speed and add it to SpA.

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Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2016 18:58:52 No.25037465 Report

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>>25037429
>using focus blast on a pokemon with bullet proof
Are you fucking retarded? Do you actually believe anybody will unironically make this mistake? Do you think this is the pokemon TV anime or some fucking shit? Dumb nigger.

Talonflame has something worth using, garchomp had that too in gen 4 and 5, but your mega, however, is a slow, useless piece of shit that would be much better off holding something else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2016 19:00:02 No.25037472 Report

Quoted By: >>25037512

>>25037458
MVenusaur sits below 125 in every stat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2016 19:04:38 No.25037504 Report

Quoted By: >>25037706

>>25037465

Wow! Let me quote yourself to refute your own point. I know, it sounds rridicuous, but bare with me.

> [LITERALLY ANYTHING] used [fighting move]

>bye bye bisharp

Thundurus can be included in the "literally anything" bracket. Are you still with me? Good. Now Thundurus can't KO Bisharp with Focus Blast because of the immunity Bulletproof grants it. Exactly the same case with Focus Blast Gengar, Alakazam, etc.

I'm glad you refuted your own point for me. What a tosser. And I'm not even British. You're just such a tosser that even an American has to call you one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2016 19:06:17 No.25037512 Report

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>>25037472

I stand corrected. Make the cutoff for defense oriented Megas 120 in their main offensive stat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2016 19:12:52 No.25037553 Report

Quoted By: >>25037562

>>25037458
Kang is only 125 attack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2016 19:13:55 No.25037562 Report

Quoted By: >>25037611

>>25037553

>Unless the Mega has an offensive boosting Ability like Parental Bond/Tough Claws/Mega Launcher

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2016 19:20:45 No.25037611 Report

Quoted By: >>25037663

>>25037562
Well then that guy is retarded since the pokemon he's complaining about has parental bond.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2016 19:26:21 No.25037663 Report

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>>25037611

Yeah, if you read the thread, the retard levels are off the charts. Look at the backpedaling M-Bisharp critic for supreme lulz.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2016 19:33:06 No.25037706 Report

Quoted By: >>25037833

>>25037504
I was assuming you'd be smart enough to understand that, obviously, I was wrong. Do you have fucking 40 IQ? Are you literally fucking retarded?

next you'll say machop can't beat it with karate chop

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2016 19:36:27 No.25037736 Report

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vespiquen
bug type
parental bond
70
100(+20)
132(+30)
100(+20)
132(+30)
40
it would become too big to fly constantly and have 3 single sections of combee around it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2016 19:46:41 No.25037833 Report

Quoted By: >>25037993 >>25038591

>>25037706
Machop can't fucking beat it with karate chop you bloody faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2016 20:06:41 No.25037993 Report

Quoted By: >>25038264 >>25039501

>>25037833
252 Atk Guts Machop Poison Tail vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Bisharp: 288-340 (106.2 - 125.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
had to switch karate chop for poison tail becaus it doesn't have KC (why the fuck) and the types to get stab 4x SE (machop to poison, m-bisharp to grass/fairy)
not accounting natures a burned guts machop does the deal, if it manages to hit bisharp that is

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Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2016 20:20:36 No.25038076 Report

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Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2016 20:55:39 No.25038264 Report

Quoted By: >>25039487

>>25037993

Adamant max Att AV Conkeldurr has something like a 48% chance to KO with Mach Punch with the upgraded defensive stat. If you shaved 5 points from another stat and added 5 to Def it survives the Mach Punch 82% of the time.

It also no longer struggles with speed crept Mew with either Will o Wisp or Aura Sphere. I don't know why you think it's such a bad theorymon, 100 base speed Bisharp with an immunity to the most common special Fighting coverage move and enough physical defense to withstand things like non STAB or uninvested Earthquakes, and also being able to better tank Pixilate Returns from M-Altaria while also outspeeding it. It could even get away with running Adamant nature.

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Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2016 21:47:59 No.25038580 Report

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Water/Dark
Ability: Skill Link
HP: 80
Atk: 115
Def: 60
Sp. Atk: 118
So. Def: 66
SPD: 142

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2016 21:50:00 No.25038591 Report

Quoted By: >>25039501

>>25037833
>this mediocre pokemon can't beat it with a 40 power attack! so strong wow!!!
Neck urself my man

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Jan 2016 00:31:14 No.25039487 Report

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>>25038264
not the guy who posted the m-bisharp, was just curious and checked it. what you just said may be true (i'm too lazy to check that) but the machop can OHKO it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Jan 2016 00:32:25 No.25039501 Report

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>>25038591
but it can m80 :^)>>25037993

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Jan 2016 01:35:33 No.25039812 Report

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Mega Lilligant
Grass/Fairy
I'm stumped for the ability. Pixelate seems obvious but it's already been done twice.

HP 70
Atk 60
Def 100 (+25)
Sp Atk 130 (+20)
Sp Def 100 (+25)
Speed 120 (+30)

Movepool would still need some improvements but this seems like plenty to push a pokemon that was pretty close to being good over the barrier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Jan 2016 01:58:47 No.25039946 Report

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Mega Marowak
Ground/Ghost
Parental Bond

HP 75 (+15)
Atk 120 (+40)
Def 125 (+25)
Sp. Atk 50
Sp. Def 100 (+20)
Spd 45

This is how Marowak should be, a solid tank. Parental Bond with Marowak as a ghost would be a cool design, and I tried to make it not too overpowered with Parental Bond.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Jan 2016 02:43:33 No.25040210 Report

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>>25037458
>Literally has Parental Bond

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Anonymous Wed 20 Jan 2016 03:04:18 No.25040335 Report

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Mega Weavile
Dark/Ice
Tough Claws

Hp 70
Atk120 (+40)
Def 65 (+10)
SpAtk 45
SpDef 85 (+10)
Speed 125 (+40)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Jan 2016 03:08:23 No.25040359 Report

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>Using Bulbapedia's templates

Pomf pls.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Jan 2016 03:12:58 No.25040385 Report

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>>25028639
>using mixed luke
this accomplishes zero things

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