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Anonymous Fri 22 Jan 2016 23:55:16 No.25058272 View View Reply Original Report

>hurr mega lucario has no counters! it should be banned!
>mega gross has no counters but that's a-ok, its fair and balanced

Smogon in a nutshell

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jan 2016 23:56:19 No.25058278 Report

Quoted By: >>25058291

>actually losing to mega metagross

holy shit how much of a scrub are you

Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy

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Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy Fri 22 Jan 2016 23:58:33 No.25058287 Report

Quoted By: >>25058314

we'll show 'em opee

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Jan 2016 23:59:12 No.25058291 Report

Quoted By: >>25058391 >>25058574

>>25058278
C'mon now nothing can really counter mega gross. Fire types are washed out this meta and ghost types usually loses to mega gross priority.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jan 2016 00:03:20 No.25058314 Report

Quoted By: >>25058376

>>25058287
>volcarona counters mega metagross

dumb idiot kid

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jan 2016 00:04:22 No.25058325 Report

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Scizor

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jan 2016 00:08:47 No.25058358 Report

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>>25058272
Mega Metagross sucks now and isn't something that people go out of their way to prepare for anymore. Mega Luke still slaps the shit out of 90% of the meta easily.

Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy

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Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy Sat 23 Jan 2016 00:10:45 No.25058376 Report

Quoted By: >>25058609 >>25058635

>>25058314
It counters Mega Lucario, silly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jan 2016 00:12:50 No.25058391 Report

Quoted By: >>25058541

>>25058291
>Fire types
>bad
They have a fairy resist, which already makes them good. Then you have powerful fire-types like Heatran, Charizard, and Talonflame. What makes them bad?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 23 Jan 2016 00:18:14 No.25058417 Report

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>>25058272
>I know better than smogon
dumb /vp/ers in a nutshell

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jan 2016 00:37:14 No.25058541 Report

Quoted By: >>25058574 >>25058614

>>25058391
Too bad none of them can counter Mega Metagross

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jan 2016 00:42:44 No.25058574 Report

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>>25058291
>>25058541
Skarmory?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jan 2016 00:46:25 No.25058609 Report

Quoted By: >>25058635

>>25058376
No. Volcarona isn't even a check
252 Atk Mega Lucario Stone Edge vs. 72 HP / 0 Def Volcarona: 672-792 (204.2 - 240.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252 Atk Adaptability Mega Lucario Close Combat vs. 72 HP / 0 Def Volcarona: 202-238 (61.3 - 72.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jan 2016 00:47:15 No.25058614 Report

Quoted By: >>25058625 >>25058627 >>25058936

>>25058541
>252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Metagross Zen Headbutt vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Mega Charizard Y: 226-267 (76 - 89.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
>252 SpA Mega Charizard Y Fire Blast vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mega Metagross in Sun: 578-684 (192 - 227.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

>252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Metagross Zen Headbutt vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Talonflame: 243-286 (81.8 - 96.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
>252+ Atk Choice Band Talonflame Flare Blitz vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Mega Metagross: 330-390 (109.6 - 129.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Although Talonflame would die from recoil, it still can OHKO MegaGross. Note that Talon is actually faster than MegaGross, so if it's not already on the field, it can switch in, take a hit, and get rid of MegaGross.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jan 2016 00:48:52 No.25058623 Report

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The problem with Lucario is that it's disgustingly powerful with both special attacks or physical attacks. And it has +2 set up moves for BOTH so by the time you figure out which it is it may already be too late. Metagross doesn't have the same sheer power and unpredictability M-Lucario does and once you scout out some of its moves, it's fairly it's counterable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jan 2016 00:48:59 No.25058625 Report

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>>25058614
Charizard Y is a check.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jan 2016 00:49:05 No.25058627 Report

Quoted By: >>25058643 >>25058936

>>25058614
Oh boy, its the "let's be retards who don't know the difference between a counter and a check" game. I love this one. Let me try.

Balloon Heatran is definitely a hard counter to MegaGross.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jan 2016 00:50:03 No.25058635 Report

Quoted By: >>25058658 >>25058705

>>25058376
>>25058609
kek dumb kid who doesn't know how the meta works BTFO

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jan 2016 00:51:16 No.25058643 Report

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>>25058627
Mega Swampert is a good Mega Charizard Y counter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jan 2016 00:52:23 No.25058658 Report

Quoted By: >>25058705

>>25058635
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jan 2016 00:54:48 No.25058680 Report

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Assault vest skuntank
Arcanine
Numel
Imprison musharna

shaking my head to be honest family.

Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy

Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy Sat 23 Jan 2016 00:58:02 No.25058705 Report

Quoted By: >>25058808

>>25058635
>>25058658
I hope one of you is Verlis

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jan 2016 01:14:27 No.25058808 Report

Quoted By: >>25058824

>>25058705
Brett pls go away

Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy

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Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy Sat 23 Jan 2016 01:16:55 No.25058824 Report

Quoted By:

>>25058808
Aw, don't do me like that man. I'm a sub!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jan 2016 01:35:24 No.25058936 Report

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>>25058614
>>25058627

Just for reference:
>Pokémon A checks Pokémon B if, when Pokémon A is given a free switch into Pokémon B, Pokémon A can win every time, even under the worst case scenario, without factoring in hax.

>Pokémon A counters Pokémon B if Pokémon A can manually switch into Pokémon B and still win every time, even under the worst case scenario, without factoring in hax.

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