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Anonymous Tue 26 Jan 2016 09:00:50 No.25081042 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>25081043 >>25081051 >>25081200

>Pokemon are now able to know up to 8 different attacks

How does the meta change?

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Anonymous Tue 26 Jan 2016 09:02:35 No.25081043 Report

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>>25081042
Nothing

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Anonymous Tue 26 Jan 2016 09:07:13 No.25081051 Report

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>>25081042
Mega-Sableye with:
Wisp
Recover
Taunt
Calm mind
Dark pulse
Shadow ball
Protect

All at the same time.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Jan 2016 09:09:06 No.25081053 Report

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unown is still worthless

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Anonymous Tue 26 Jan 2016 09:12:12 No.25081067 Report

Quoted By: >>25081083 >>25081136

The good: Games would no longer be as dependent on team matchup

The bad: Power and speed would be the only thing that matters. Everything would be able to 2HKO/1HKO everything else. The only defensive Pokemon you would see are boosting sweepers like Suicune, who get buffed because they can boost, RestTalk and attack with enough coverage to spare.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Jan 2016 09:20:34 No.25081083 Report

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I just want to run muh favorites that suffer 4 moveslot syndrome.

>>25081067
You're probably right. The series has stuck to 4 moves for too long and mons have been designed with that in mind (maybe).

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Anonymous Tue 26 Jan 2016 09:30:18 No.25081106 Report

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It is now possible to fuse mons to make more powerful Pokemon.
Patch also adds Dante from the Devil May Cry™ series.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Jan 2016 09:48:22 No.25081136 Report

Quoted By: >>25081301

>>25081067
>Power and speed would be the only thing that matters. Everything would be able to 2HKO/1HKO everything else
This. Dont for a moment think this would drastically change the meta and cause the OU-since-intro to drop suddenly. If they are viable now, they will be more viable provided they have other coverage outside 4 moves.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Jan 2016 10:24:32 No.25081200 Report

Quoted By: >>25081238

>>25081042
Greninja is even more broken

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Anonymous Tue 26 Jan 2016 10:44:34 No.25081238 Report

Quoted By: >>25081242

>>25081200
Pretty much every offensive pokemon drastically improves, really

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Anonymous Tue 26 Jan 2016 10:47:38 No.25081242 Report

Quoted By: >>25081275

>>25081238
But those at the top will still most likely stay on top

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Anonymous Tue 26 Jan 2016 11:06:53 No.25081275 Report

Quoted By: >>25081464

>>25081242
Well as you said, Greninja becomes batshit broken, but many other mons no longer have to pick between coverage and be countered by whatever they can't hit on account of 4 moveslot syndrome.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Jan 2016 11:20:23 No.25081301 Report

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>>25081136
I think stall would still exist in bulky offense, you can still run the blobs & co. but they will focus more on tanking than outright walling

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Anonymous Tue 26 Jan 2016 11:23:44 No.25081309 Report

Quoted By: >>25081528

I wonder if dedicated counters would be better or worse off with that change.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Jan 2016 12:28:06 No.25081464 Report

Quoted By: >>25081474

>>25081275
shit like conkeldurr would have a reason to stay OU
>conk with element punches+drain punch+mach punch+close combat+knock off+[rock move]
>talonflame with its entire support movepool. Brave/Blitz/wisp/roost/SD/tailwind/u turn/taunt
>Garchomp with coverage, phazing and pebbles.
>Skarmory with spikes/SR/defog/whirlwind/roost/Brave/taunt/iron head
>Clefable in general

So yeah. The strong get a lot stronger and shit like lilligant is still worthless.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Jan 2016 12:33:13 No.25081474 Report

Quoted By: >>25081493

>>25081464
Not to mention some mons that manage to stay in higher tiers but rely on literally ONE GIMMICKY niche set to perform well will not benefit

See: Contrary Serperior

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Anonymous Tue 26 Jan 2016 12:42:24 No.25081493 Report

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>>25081474
I dunno serperior definitely appreciates being able to subseed AND glare without giving up its 'coverage'

Or have you never seen subseed serperior, or glare?

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Anonymous Tue 26 Jan 2016 12:44:16 No.25081495 Report

Quoted By: >>25081510

>>25081493
Not significantly. I know it would benefit from having BOTH HP Fire and Ground but it's really hard to tell. Would you still be able to set up if all pokemon can now have twice the coverage and offensive potential?

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Anonymous Tue 26 Jan 2016 12:49:46 No.25081510 Report

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>>25081495
>both hp fire and ground
Anon.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Jan 2016 12:52:31 No.25081515 Report

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>>25081510
HP Ground for Heatran. HP Fire for Ice, other Grass types and Steels that fly or aren't Heatran

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Anonymous Tue 26 Jan 2016 12:52:52 No.25081516 Report

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PP stalling men

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Anonymous Tue 26 Jan 2016 12:54:31 No.25081519 Report

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>>25081515
>different IVs
>same attack

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Anonymous Tue 26 Jan 2016 12:54:55 No.25081520 Report

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>>25081519
FUCK I need to sleep

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Anonymous Tue 26 Jan 2016 13:00:22 No.25081528 Report

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>>25081309
Probably worse.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Jan 2016 13:06:56 No.25081550 Report

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>>25081520
lel

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