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Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 22:23:56 No.25342341 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>25342371 >>25342602 >>25342923 >>25343150 >>25343365 >>25344670

Why was gen 6 so fucking short?

Was it just a "testing the waters" type of thing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 22:25:36 No.25342371 Report

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>>25342341
gen 6 was the biggest mistake of pokemon franchise

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 22:25:55 No.25342376 Report

Quoted By: >>25342395

How the fuck was it short?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 22:26:45 No.25342388 Report

Quoted By: >>25343324

I refuse to believe they'd just end it that abruptly. The anime is XYZ now for fucks sake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 22:27:16 No.25342394 Report

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Because they've only showed half of it so far.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 22:27:17 No.25342395 Report

Quoted By: >>25342464 >>25342488 >>25342497 >>25344821

>>25342376
2 pair of games, one of them was about remakes. gen 5 also had 2 pairs only, but there werent any remakes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 22:27:56 No.25342410 Report

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Gen6 will go down as an embarrassment

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 22:29:56 No.25342450 Report

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They probably spent the majority of development time creating the models and animations for 720+ Pokemon. It was also Game Freak's first 3D game, so they probably had to learn how to do basic shit. On top of that, I believe they were part-way through the development of Gen 5 when they first got the 3DS dev kit. So, they had to split the work between the games and they couldn't really go all out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 22:30:44 No.25342464 Report

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>>25342395
It was a remake with original content, isnt that exactly what BW2 were to an extent?

Overall it is still a 3 year gap so it shouldnt come as a surprise. If this happened last year I would understand, but..

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 22:32:15 No.25342488 Report

Quoted By: >>25342506 >>25342619

>>25342395
3 pairs of games. Sun/Moon is part of gen 6.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 22:32:46 No.25342497 Report

Quoted By: >>25342569 >>25342587

>>25342395
>2 pair of games
That is assuming S/M aren't gen VI games.
Gen 1 had 1 set of games + 1 improved version. Gen V had 2 pair of games like you said.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 22:33:20 No.25342506 Report

Quoted By: >>25342533 >>25342540

>>25342488
Just stop this meme.

Are these the same people trying to push the "fart fetish magearna" shit? Just don't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 22:34:48 No.25342533 Report

Quoted By: >>25342637

>>25342506
No. It's legitimate and backed up with more evidence than the gen 7 fags have.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 22:35:06 No.25342540 Report

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>>25342506
>just stop this meme
>instead, let me keep using my own
Nice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 22:35:07 No.25342542 Report

Quoted By: >>25342587

...are we really complaining about an announcement for a successor to a game that's 3 years old?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 22:36:29 No.25342569 Report

Quoted By: >>25342642 >>25342643

>>25342497
SM were confirmed to be Gen 7 by numerous official sites.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 22:37:25 No.25342587 Report

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>>25342497
gen1 was special in that regard so i choose to ignore when it comes to patterns and shit. Same with gen 2 really, they are old and the mindset was different back then.

>>25342542
Is that my fault that 2015 was so useless and we were stuck with orashit?

Gen 6 is a disaster in every regard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 22:38:12 No.25342602 Report

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>>25342341
Yes, it was a testing phase, and i fucking hate that it was

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Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 22:39:03 No.25342619 Report

Quoted By: >>25342642

>>25342488

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 22:40:06 No.25342637 Report

Quoted By: >>25342670

>>25342533
Your evidence are unused files

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 22:40:15 No.25342642 Report

Quoted By: >>25343278

>>25342569
Such as?

>>25342619
>Bulbapedia

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 22:40:17 No.25342643 Report

Quoted By: >>25343206

>>25342569
No they weren't. It's all just marketing buzzwords like "new area" or "new world" which they did with ORAS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 22:41:17 No.25342670 Report

Quoted By: >>25342843

>>25342637
Your evidence is

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 22:43:46 No.25342715 Report

Quoted By: >>25342765

How dumb do you even have to be to think these are gen 6 games. They have an entirely new name, new pokemon, new region. Nothing is even similar to gen 6 aside from the fact that it's on 3DS. Like why do I even have to type this out.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 22:45:07 No.25342745 Report

Quoted By: >>25342802 >>25342899

There could be a few things:

Generation 6's engine was poorly coded and caused slowdowns in 3D battles so they just wrote a new one outright and thanks to Pokemon Bank they don't have to deal with all the messy cross generation stuff like with other games. You could argue they made Pokemon Bank ahead of time knowing the next games wouldn't be compatible.

They decided it's more profitable to make an entirely new game instead of putting resources to work making a new legendary Pokemon with a new hat plus a new bad guy, while at the same time revisiting older generations in a similarly compatible game allows for cashing in on nostalgia while the new one is worked on.

Yokai Watch made them realize they needed to step up their game (the first in game footage for Yokai Watch was in 2011, plenty of time for Nintendo to scrap another sprite game)

They're looking ahead to the 2020 olympics and want the 25th anniversary game timed with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 22:45:58 No.25342765 Report

Quoted By: >>25342792

>>25342715
Zygarde's forme
Zygarde's signature moves
AZ Floette
Strange Souvenir
2 pentagon slots

Watch, you'll be eating your words when they start showing screenshots and the graphics/battle system looks exactly like gen 6.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 22:47:39 No.25342792 Report

Quoted By: >>25342830

>>25342765
It will because it's on 3DS and gamefreak are hacks, not because it's the same gen.

They showed the new regional bird for christ sake, what more do you need.

hawaii here we come!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 22:48:26 No.25342802 Report

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>>25342745
>Yokai Watch made them realize they needed to step up their game
Why the fuck would it? All the games combined didn't even sell as much as ORAS, and the other merchandise could be cared for even less, not to mention it's already dying out in the only country in the world that cares for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 22:49:33 No.25342830 Report

Quoted By: >>25342845

>>25342792
Same system doesn't mean same graphics. Look at how obviously different gen 5 and 4 looked.

New Pokemon doesn't equate to a new generation the same way ORAS' new moves don't equate to a new generation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 22:50:27 No.25342843 Report

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>>25342670
Not him, but
>Zygarde Perfect, Zygarde 10%, Zygarde Core, AZ Floette being a thing
>Blue Zygarde Core and Red Zygarde Core as potential mascots of Sun and Moon
>Blue Zygarde Core was regenerating its energy in the sun in the last anime episode
>XY/ORAS still having 2 slots left for pentagon-compatibile games
>gen 6.5 heavily implied in XY itself, such as strange souvenir, NPC talking about a different region, Kalos having a war with an unnamed "country", Parfume Palace garden, or the low number of new gen 6 Pokemon in general

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 22:50:28 No.25342844 Report

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>patternfags still at it after continually getting BTFO

Sad

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 22:50:31 No.25342845 Report

Quoted By: >>25343042 >>25343170

>>25342830
>New Pokemon doesn't equate to a new generation

Since when..?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 22:53:13 No.25342899 Report

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>>25342745
Literally none of your points made any fucking sense. Go back to >>>/reddit/ with your shitty headcanon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 22:55:26 No.25342923 Report

Quoted By: >>25343327

>>25342341
>Gen 1-2
>1996-2000
>4 years

>Gen 2-3
>2000-2003
>3 years

>Gen 3-4
>2003-2007
>4 years

>Gen 4-5
>2007-2010
>3 years

>Gen 5-6
>2010-2013
>3 years

>Gen 6-7
>2013-2016
>3 years

How is that any shorter than the norm?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 22:58:38 No.25342978 Report

Quoted By: >>25344810

>gen

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 23:02:05 No.25343042 Report

Quoted By: >>25343078 >>25344791

>>25342845
Since Gold and Silver having new pokémon but still being on the gameboy? a new region is not a new generation, literally a new console is

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 23:03:52 No.25343078 Report

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>>25343042

So gold and silver arent gen 2? Black and white arent gen 5?

If that's what you believe than go ahead and believe this is gen 6 (which, by your logic, would be gen 4), doesnt change a thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 23:07:46 No.25343150 Report

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>>25342341
>short
>napoleon
I see what you did there

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 23:08:42 No.25343170 Report

Quoted By: >>25343236

>>25342845
Since they started breaking patterns left and right since gen V.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 23:10:18 No.25343206 Report

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>>25342643
No it wasn't, Nintendo of Europe literally said these are part of the next generation of games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 23:11:55 No.25343236 Report

Quoted By: >>25343371

>>25343170

the official page calls it "The next era of Pokemon", and they mention being able to bring Pokemon in from ORAS using Pokebank. If they were still gen VI, you would just be able to trade normally with ORAS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 23:13:50 No.25343278 Report

Quoted By: >>25343371

>>25342642
>Edit @ 15:05: Pokémon Sun & Moon confirmed, with the press release listing it as the next generation.
also Serebii confirmed. There's no room for denial anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 23:16:18 No.25343324 Report

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>>25342388
It has to be until the new season which btw changes every year, so XY&Z should end in october or so.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 23:16:20 No.25343327 Report

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>>25342923
>Using US Release dates

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 23:18:15 No.25343365 Report

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>>25342341
It wasn't short, it just had too little pokemon to make it big enough to hang itself for 4 years. I'm ok with shorter lifespan but more new regions each 3 years honestly.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 23:18:25 No.25343371 Report

Quoted By: >>25343421 >>25343558

>>25343236
Cool, but don't twist what you read for your gaining.
It talks about the VC games, then adds
>Pokémon from Pokémon Omega Ruby, Pokémon Alpha Sapphire, Pokémon X, and Pokémon Y can also be brought into Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon in the same way.
Doesn't mention anywhere that it's the ONLY way to bring them.

>>25343278
Show me exactly where this press release thing says so.

>Serebii confirmed
Yeah, which is why he still has the section of the games as "Gen VII?" right now, eh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 23:21:05 No.25343421 Report

Quoted By: >>25343549

>>25343371
Yes but why would they bring up that Pokebank is able to transfer these Pokemon if they intend to keep S&M in Gen VI? There would be no reason to specify that Pokemon can be transferred, that's a basic feature of same-gen games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 23:27:34 No.25343549 Report

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>>25343421
Because it's a new feature for the VC games, and it's specifying that you can ALSO use Pokebank to pass shit to S/M from XY and ORAS.
They specify you can use Bank to trade from XY in the ORAS site too.

http://www.pokemonrubysapphire.com/en-us/cool-features/pokemon-bank

They didn't give an old game a new feature back then, so there was no reason to use it as an "added" information.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 23:27:51 No.25343558 Report

Quoted By: >>25343615

>>25343371
http://pokemon.gamespress.com/releases/1942/new-pokmon-games-announced-via-pokmon-direct

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Feb 2016 23:31:19 No.25343615 Report

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>>25343558
>twist the "new generation" only present in the article's title for your gaining
Nice.
http://www.vg247.com/2013/04/07/pokemon-x-ys-new-reveal-looks-a-lot-like-mewtwo/

Here's a new Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Feb 2016 00:22:44 No.25344670 Report

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>>25342341
>20 years making pokemon games
>testing the waters
Testing what exactly? Game Freak is just a bad developer and it shows by how badly they've been doing since Gen 2.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Feb 2016 00:28:44 No.25344791 Report

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>>25343042
>a new region is not a new generation, literally a new console is

Are you stupid?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Feb 2016 00:29:32 No.25344810 Report

Quoted By:

>>25342978
>cotton

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Feb 2016 00:30:16 No.25344821 Report

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>>25342395
>muh patterns

Stop being butthurt about Z already.

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