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What makes a Pokemon a Pokemon?

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 10:42:26 No.26501292 View View Reply Original Report

>Yokai
goofy humanoid mons based on Japanese folklore.
>Digimon
ugly animals with weapons attached

So what makes a Pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 10:44:59 No.26501300 Report

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>>26501292
Many years ago I'd say simplicity but since we have shit like Palkia and Giratina now I guess it doesn't apply anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 10:49:38 No.26501319 Report

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>>26501292
A monster that goes in your pocket

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 10:52:27 No.26501328 Report

Quoted By: >>26502103

>>26501292
A pokemon is an animal inside the pokemon worlds ecosystem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 10:55:27 No.26501342 Report

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>>26501300
I would have to agree on the simplicity thing. We have some outliers, but they're usually straight-forward derivatives of their sources, in monster form.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 11:00:31 No.26501364 Report

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>>26501292
I actually really like the kappa digimon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 11:16:08 No.26501441 Report

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Yokai are ghosts or some shit, I dunno - based around japanese mythology...
Digimon are digital monsters, I don't know how that translates into animals and things with loads of stuff attached but that's their thing...
Pokemon are more based on natural things, even Vanilluxe is based on stalagtites, and Trubbish comes from the pollution of the natural world - arguable that it's pokemon's answer to foxes adapting to cities. It's when pokemon strays from it's nature-centric origins that people get mad at the designers, even if the people aren't fully aware of why they hate it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 11:33:44 No.26501511 Report

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>>26501342
Typically,that's what most youkai are,if I'm remembering correctly,they're just inanimate objects that came to life.Obviously,the difference with pokemon is that they're also based on animals and other things

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Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 12:23:24 No.26501777 Report

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>>26501292
>based on Japanese folklore
Have some doubt

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 12:35:52 No.26501827 Report

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>>26501777
Jesus Christ, how did this ever get popular?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 12:37:35 No.26501836 Report

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>>26501292
When you think about it, Blastoise is the most digimon-like pokemon we have. Turtle with cannons attached.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 12:37:56 No.26501840 Report

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>>26501827
I recently got my hands on Yo-Kai Watch für my 3ds and i have to say, its a really fun game.

I mean, it has nothing in common with pokemon. At least not more than other games in the same genre.

It is still a fun and interactive game, with cool looking Yo-Kais. Dont get me wrong, there are some really awful designs in there, but there are also really good looking monsters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 12:39:00 No.26501849 Report

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>>26501827
aggressive marketing, same as pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 12:40:17 No.26501856 Report

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>>26501777
Are these monsters from the game that tentatively is based on American folklore?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 12:41:19 No.26501861 Report

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>>26501856
*Aren't*

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 12:42:43 No.26501874 Report

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>>26501840
>and i have to say, its a really fun game
Every video I've seen of it show it plays itself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 12:43:41 No.26501878 Report

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>>26501300
They're actually pretty basic, all things considered. Them and Reshiram/Zekrom BW are the most complex Pokemon designs can get, and even then they're nothing to Digimon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 12:45:21 No.26501891 Report

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>>26501874
Yes, it kinda plays itself. Im only 1h and 30min into the game, but you can have interactions with your Yo-Kais. Using a special skill (you have to play a little "minigame"), focus your attacks, rotate your monsters out, feed the enemies and more.
The hunting part is also really good.
Dont get me wrong, i wouldnt play Yo-Kai over Pokemon, but its still a fun game to play once in a while.
If you like these kind of games, you should give it a shot.

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Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 13:01:12 No.26501983 Report

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>>26501874
It's three minigames repeating eachother. Don't listen to the other anon. He's a child. A literal one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 13:12:10 No.26502040 Report

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>>26501983
>He's a child
>Post reply with cartoon character

Stop.

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Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 13:12:50 No.26502046 Report

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>>26502040
>my face after reading your post

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 13:14:01 No.26502056 Report

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>>26501777
But these ones are based on American culture.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 13:15:26 No.26502065 Report

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>>26501874
It gets harder. Expecially at endgame.

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Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 13:18:34 No.26502087 Report

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>>26502046
>Literally your face after reading my post

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 13:21:19 No.26502103 Report

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>>26501328
Nope.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 13:21:36 No.26502106 Report

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>>26502087
Nice Freudian.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 13:22:23 No.26502110 Report

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>>26501292
Pay attention to Pokémon lore.
Then you know what makes a Pokémon.
A Pokémon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 14:02:20 No.26502387 Report

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>>26501319

/thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 14:07:08 No.26502407 Report

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>>26501292
>>Digimon
ugly animals with weapons attached

I am so sick of this meme. This doesn't even apply to any of the Digimon you posted.
Not only that, but it DOES apply to fucking Blastoise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 14:10:12 No.26502421 Report

Quoted By: >>26502432 >>26502819

>>26502407
yeah he could of just left it as ugly animals

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 14:13:02 No.26502432 Report

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>>26502421
I get the feeling the "ugly" thing is supposed to be a dig, but they're monsters, so

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 14:18:56 No.26502476 Report

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>>26501874
>>26501891
>>26501983
>>26502065
regular battles outside of postgame speak for itself...up until the boss fights anyway
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akGG95qnRpo

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Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 14:18:56 No.26502477 Report

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>>26502103
> Pokemon are wild species
> Animals are wild species

It would be like if there's living ice cream in our world.

By the way, living rocks exists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 14:23:00 No.26502503 Report

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>>26501777
holy shit I want that Christmas yokai to be my friend

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 14:25:02 No.26502516 Report

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>>26501777

tubgirl is cute

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 14:25:19 No.26502517 Report

Quoted By: >>26502550 >>26502665 >>26503089

>>26501292
My problem with both yo-kai watch and digimon is that some of the monsters are almost entirely (or completely, in digimon's case) humanoid.

Even our most human like pokemon are still clearly monsters in face or body.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 14:31:26 No.26502550 Report

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>>26502517
in Digimon's case, isn't data a thing made by humans, hence human data is often uploaded all over the place? Collection-wise (depending on game) you either have 1-2 allies that keep dying and being reborn like Phoenixes or just uploading data you find.
in yo-kai watch's case, a good number of them were human who eventually died and became yo-kai. Guess most aren't 100% monsters. Far as I know you don't keep them in medals, instead use them like cellphones to call them over to help out, and then part ways when all is said and done.
Though if you're looking for the 'mon' in monsters, the two might not be the best choice in games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 14:45:58 No.26502665 Report

Quoted By: >>26502966

>>26502517

Well Digimon can also talk and are fairly intelligent. There's really no reason why there shouldn't be humanoid Digimon.
Heck in Frontier they are even classified as H-class Digimon and beastlike Digimon are B-class

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 14:57:51 No.26502754 Report

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>>26501856
>America
>Folklore
They're Merican, but not from the folklore, if they have any folklore it woulldn't be enough to max out the total number to 600+

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 15:00:48 No.26502789 Report

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>>26501292
Yokai is goofy as fuck monsters.
Digimon is overdesigned as fuck monsters.
Pokemon is just monsters.

Look at Lickitung in OP's pick, and the thing it's compared to. Even if that thing wasn't a humanoid it'd still be made goofy, meanwhile Lickitung is just a pink lizard with a big tongue. People call Giratina overdesigned. Compare Giratina to the butterfly man next to Masquerain. Giratina hasn't got shit on that thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 15:03:05 No.26502807 Report

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>>26501292
Pokemon are more natural and animal like, or simplistic in design in comparison to Digimon/Yokai Watch. Their designs are also more appealing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 15:05:22 No.26502819 Report

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>>26502421
Animals? BS Pokemon has more ugly animals than digimon
Digimon is like 50%Machine and Humanoids

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 15:06:04 No.26502825 Report

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>>26501292
i feel salt

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 15:07:43 No.26502836 Report

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>>26502087
kek rekt

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 15:09:07 No.26502848 Report

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>>26502819
digimon are all data so technically they are 100% machine

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 15:23:35 No.26502933 Report

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Digimon have a reason to have weapons cause apparently the Digital World is hella dangerous and how else would hey protect themselves

Pokemon are more like pets with Humans in their world so things don't get out of hand as much

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 15:27:16 No.26502966 Report

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>>26502665
Yeah that... bothers me too, I want them to be their own, independent race, and not my pets. If they're smart enough to talk i want nothing to do with owning them.

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Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 15:39:23 No.26503049 Report

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>>26502966
This Black and White anime scene really bugged me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 15:44:58 No.26503089 Report

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>>26502517
Digimon are just data so if the data that they're made up of is about humans I believe they would be humanoid. (I think that's how it works)

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Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 15:50:58 No.26503119 Report

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>>26501292
What's funny is none of the digimon on your pic have weapons attached to them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 15:57:23 No.26503157 Report

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>>26501292
>youkai
Mischievous spirits based on folklore/inanimate objects. They can be captured and used in situations via youkai watch. Some have alternate forms.

>pokemon
Animals/inanimate objects some based on folklore or real creatures. They evolve. They can be caught and trained. In pokeballs. Anybody can become a trainer.

>Digimon
Mostly humanoid or beasts made out of data. They can evolve. Come from digi-eggs. Thier power can only be harnessed by chosen children.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 16:00:44 No.26503188 Report

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Elemental monsters that are designed closer to monster/animal than human/thinking creature

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 16:04:59 No.26503230 Report

Quoted By: >>26503268 >>26503451 >>26503487 >>26503560

>>26501292
Wow yokai ripped the fuck outta pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 16:09:11 No.26503268 Report

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>>26503230
Of course it fucking did

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 16:29:40 No.26503451 Report

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>>26503230
Nah, it's just that it's based mostly around abstracted Japanese folklore. The monsters in OP's pic were chosen because they're based on the same things, allowing for good comparisons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 16:34:27 No.26503487 Report

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>>26503230
Nah. Both just have influence from Japanese ghost monsters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 16:35:23 No.26503499 Report

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>>26501292
I just want sexy animals.

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Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 16:38:15 No.26503530 Report

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>>26501292
Theres a more regular kappa in the series to compare.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 16:41:00 No.26503551 Report

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>>26501292
Digimon are just data so they don't have to imitate animals. Most pokemon are pretty simplistic and imitate nature. Digimon just does whatever the fuck it wants.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 16:42:32 No.26503560 Report

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>>26503230
The only ones I thought "Wow what a fucking rip off" for a fleeting bit were the baku and the Electabuzz thing. Baku are a pretty common and concrete concept but this one being purple/pink with a flower on its face is what got it for me and the horns on the Elctabuzz oni thing got me there (I would also say the general body shape but I mean, for a cartoony design for what I guess it's supposed to be what else would it be shaped like).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 16:43:32 No.26503569 Report

Quoted By: >>26503586

Why does the Digimon Kappa have a CD on its head and what looks like headphones?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 16:45:42 No.26503586 Report

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>>26503569
That's Gwappamon, a fucking cyborg kappa, and it's "fused from the data of a music player and the legendary animal, 'Kappa'". I... don't know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 16:46:53 No.26503603 Report

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>>26501292
Naturally occurring animal-like creatures with elemental and almost magic abilities.

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Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 16:47:08 No.26503607 Report

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>>26501777
holy shit, theres a yokai that's the ghost of Joe from Ashita no Joe. I need this game now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 16:47:16 No.26503608 Report

Quoted By: >>26503720

>>26503586
That explains the concept a little, but not WHY they fused a kappa with a CD player. Lotad was combined with a lilypad for example since kappa were said to have dishes on to pof their head and lilypads are often sort of interpreted as bowls or plates.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 16:48:27 No.26503623 Report

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>>26501827
Hipsters
Basically the equivalent to Poppliofags.
Only like it because others hate it and its "random".

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 16:48:52 No.26503627 Report

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>>26503586
>Music based kappa
>Not Rappamon
One job digimon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 16:49:53 No.26503638 Report

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>>26501777
I want to fuck Lemongirl

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 16:52:15 No.26503659 Report

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>>26501777
burgerman a best

also
>that subtle tubgirl reference
>triggered.swf

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 16:52:55 No.26503664 Report

Quoted By: >>26503794

>>26501292
Never been a fan of Digimon.
But Yokai makes it look like the greatest series ever made.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 16:57:08 No.26503706 Report

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>>26503530
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Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 16:58:49 No.26503720 Report

Quoted By: >>26503734

>>26503608
Because the dish was fused with a CD player's disk receptacle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 17:00:33 No.26503734 Report

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>>26503720
I... guess I kinda get it. I think it'd be more obvious if there was a lid and wasn't surrounded by red noodley looking things. Why does it have a bandage on its stomach?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 17:05:58 No.26503794 Report

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>>26503664
Digimon are way worse than Yokai

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 17:07:15 No.26503814 Report

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>>26503734
Because belly buttons are lewd and must be concealed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 17:09:32 No.26503833 Report

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>>26503049
Same here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 17:10:04 No.26503838 Report

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>>26503734
Evocative of a stuffed toy. Although a cyborg type, various puppet type have similar elements.

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Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 17:15:06 No.26503885 Report

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>>26501292
>ugly
CUTE

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Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 19:31:55 No.26505248 Report

Quoted By: >>26505828

You forgot Dismarelda and Muk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 19:39:22 No.26505329 Report

Quoted By: >>26505349

>>26502056
>>26501856
>>26501777
>boxing
>baseball
>not japanese
They're pretty big over there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 19:41:08 No.26505349 Report

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>>26505329
Iirc those are explicitly "American"-themed Yokai, I think the latest Yokai Watch game in Moonland has a US theme and is set in California or something

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 19:45:32 No.26505381 Report

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>>26501777
>Glass Joe youkai
Maybe I should get into YW

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 19:47:23 No.26505411 Report

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>>26501292
You missed Raijinmon OP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 20:34:41 No.26505828 Report

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>>26505248
Yokai made Muk a girlfriend? That's so sweet of them!

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Anonymous Sat 28 May 2016 22:17:56 No.26506814 Report

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>>26505828
But then you need to add another slime monster

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