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Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:20:06 No.26530522 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>26530557 >>26530579 >>26530593 >>26530611 >>26530635 >>26530648 >>26530737 >>26530979 >>26531304 >>26533462 >>26539806 >>26539851 >>26544126

>the main anime will never have a battle with an emotional impact as big as this one
>the main anime will never make you cry like a little girl over a battle like origins did

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:20:57 No.26530533 Report

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>crying because of Pokemon Origins

Time to end it, OP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:22:22 No.26530557 Report

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>>26530522
Fag

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:23:36 No.26530570 Report

Quoted By: >>26542528 >>26544085

I hope for your sake that this is bait the only moment where one could actually get "feels" was in the part where squirtle bites charmander.

Literally all of Red's team isnt seen till the end, and an anime based on the games directly had alot of bullshit in it

The battle was great but the ashnime has had much more emotional/epic moments, Origins is overrated

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:24:29 No.26530579 Report

Quoted By: >>26530588 >>26542810

>>26530522

>there will never be another moment where Red Jobbers this badly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:25:27 No.26530588 Report

Quoted By: >>26530652 >>26530683 >>26536885

>>26530579
>job
>managed to beat the last gym leader

meanwhile, Ash lost to wulfric, the weakest gym leader in kalos

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:25:54 No.26530593 Report

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>>26530522
>Speed lines
Shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:28:01 No.26530611 Report

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>>26530522
Hey look, it's a battle where every one of Red's mons jobs and/or gets offscreen and has to be won by the Charizard line. Remember all the battles in Origin that didn't go like that? I don't.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:30:16 No.26530630 Report

Quoted By: >>26530650 >>26530662 >>26530728 >>26530729 >>26530740 >>26530806 >>26542810

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:30:49 No.26530635 Report

Quoted By: >>26530662 >>26530675 >>26530682 >>26536133

>>26530522
Don't bother trying to talk about orgins on /vp/. Most of the users here are autistic and just barely 18. They can't understand or comprehend how a four episode advertisement was better than anything the regular anime pumped out over many years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:32:02 No.26530648 Report

Quoted By: >>26530730

>>26530522
This must be b8 right?

>6 vs 2
>rhyhorn takes out 5 of Red's pokemon including OHKO a jolteon with fucking thunderbolt
>charizard OHKO rhydon with an attack that would never ever be able to OHKO rhydon in the games because of charizard shilling bullshit

Origins was so fucking shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:32:18 No.26530650 Report

Quoted By: >>26530722

>>26530630

Worst battle in the history of Pokemon.
Any shit tier anime fight was better than this.

Great dialogue though.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:32:25 No.26530652 Report

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>>26530588

>Wulfric
>litterally lifts using a Avallug.
>'Weak'

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:33:04 No.26530662 Report

Quoted By: >>26530746

>>26530635
Defend this you autist >>26530630

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:33:52 No.26530675 Report

Quoted By: >>26530770

>>26530635

Origins is genwun pandering at its absolute lowest. Fuck off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:34:07 No.26530682 Report

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>>26530635
no one said this here, ever, idiot.

Origins is overrated, that's all there is to it. It's barely better than the Anime for being more truthful to the game. That is all, really.
and to be honest, I prefer the first season of the Ashnime over this as the world-building is stronger (logical, as it has more episodes), but even moreso it setting itself apart from the game. It's very interesting to watch occasionally.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:34:09 No.26530683 Report

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>>26530588
>used 6 pokemon against 2

LMAO

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:34:36 No.26530691 Report

Quoted By: >>26531111

Charizard vs magmar was better

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:37:11 No.26530722 Report

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>>26530650
>Great dialogue though.

>Giovanni: "The way you act like a sperging retard reminds me of myself as a child. Thanks for opening my eyes, I'll disband Team Rocket and start travelling and battling again while facing no repercussion for my crimes. Aren't I lucky you only care about this shiny badge?"

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:37:38 No.26530728 Report

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>>26530630
>anime to pander to genwunners
>make fights like this

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:37:47 No.26530729 Report

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>>26530630
>laserbeams coming out of snorlax's eyes
>jolteon jobbing to a thunderbolt coming from an amazing sp atk base stat of 30

Kekoslovakia

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:37:47 No.26530730 Report

Quoted By: >>26530750

>>26530648
anime had a lot of bullshit itself (who can forget AIM FOR THE HORN) but sometimes it was downright hilarious like out of nowhere that tiny ass krabby wrecking shit in its first game

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:38:14 No.26530737 Report

Quoted By: >>26530774

>>26530522

It is better than new seasons of Pokémon anime.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:38:43 No.26530740 Report

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>>26530630
Never 4get

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:39:00 No.26530746 Report

Quoted By: >>26530780 >>26530788 >>26536768

>>26530662
That Ryhorn and Rhydon were Sakaki's strongest and most prized pokemon. He even stated how for standard gym matches he uses a regular set of six pokemon to battle but but used Ryhorn and Rhydon since Red was a special case. If those were his two best pokemon, I can only imagine how strong they were. Red probably tried training his pokemon evenly, so they had a disadvantage versus them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:39:10 No.26530750 Report

Quoted By: >>26530828

>>26530730
>using 18 year old episodes as examples

Kys

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:39:47 No.26530757 Report

Quoted By: >>26544187

Yes. Just kill me now desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:40:21 No.26530770 Report

Quoted By: >>26530798 >>26530812 >>26531139

>>26530675
Worse. It's what could have been perfectly good genwun pandering turned into nothing more than a Mega Evolution promotion tool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:40:34 No.26530774 Report

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>>26530737
Kek. Watch XY sometime.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:41:08 No.26530780 Report

Quoted By: >>26530876 >>26530934 >>26542657

>>26530746
252+ SpA Rhyhorn Thunderbolt vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Jolteon: 49-58 (35 - 41.4%) -- 79.7% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
level 100 rhyhorn v level 50 jolteon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:41:48 No.26530788 Report

Quoted By: >>26530934 >>26542657

>>26530746
Are yoy retarded? For rhyhorn to be able to OHKO jolteon it has to be over level 80 with a + spatk nature, 252 ev in sp atk and 31 iv while jolteon at 20 with a minus sp def nature and 0 ivs in sp def and hp.

Don't try to defend this shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:42:24 No.26530798 Report

Quoted By: >>26530817 >>26530829 >>26530929

>>26530770
The mega evolution didn't even show up until the last episode at the last minute. Meanwhile people don't bitch about entire fucking specials dedicated to showing off each and every Mega Evolution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:42:46 No.26530806 Report

Quoted By: >>26530839

>>26530630
>There won't ever be a good secondary media for pokemon
>Manga is edgy shit
>Anime is literally just Ash
>This piece of crap

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:43:11 No.26530812 Report

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>>26530770

More like Charizard pandering. The rest of Red's team was a fucking joke. Mega Charizard X was just the cherry on top.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:43:36 No.26530817 Report

Quoted By: >>26530872

>>26530798
Because they weren't dedicated to that at all, there was actual plot behind them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:43:51 No.26530821 Report

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Man, remember when you would rock the world with your Special Rhyhorn?

Only real old-school fans remember.

#gen1moments

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:44:03 No.26530828 Report

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>>26530750
same region as the origins series
I'd say its fair

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:44:04 No.26530829 Report

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>>26530798
>4 episodes with a protagonist who's goal is literally finding mega pokemon and fighting them
>out of 150 episodes

You're fucking retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:44:39 No.26530839 Report

Quoted By: >>26530960

>>26530806
have you even read the manga or are you just making assumptions based off of the arbok screenshot you saw

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:47:06 No.26530872 Report

Quoted By: >>26530888 >>26536765

>>26530817
They are literally called "Mega Evolution Specials" and go out of their way to include all Mega Evolutions. There was "actual plot" behind Origins too, which was following the game's plot. Mega I'm not aruging Origins wasn't shit but people going "WELL IT'S SHIT BECAUSE MEGA EVOLUTION" like the Mega Evolution wasn't just thrown in at the end and the special wouldn't have been any better or worse if it had not been there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:47:26 No.26530876 Report

Quoted By: >>26536706

>>26530780
>EVs
>SpAtk
>Gen1

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:47:40 No.26530881 Report

Quoted By: >>26543103

Where were you when Red fucking died?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:47:44 No.26530883 Report

Quoted By: >>26530995

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Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:47:57 No.26530888 Report

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>>26530872
>but people going "WELL IT'S SHIT BECAUSE MEGA EVOLUTION" like the Mega Evolution wasn't just thrown in at the end and the special wouldn't have been any better or worse if it had not been there.
Okay, point taken here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:48:57 No.26530904 Report

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>Charizard shilling shit with a retarded Red with more plot armor than Ash

No

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:50:59 No.26530929 Report

Quoted By: >>26530958

>>26530798
I don't see your point. I don't watch the regular anime, so I wouldn't know. This isn't an "origins vs ashnime" shit debate.

And that was only one of many ways origins was a disappointment, not the sole reason, don't worry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:51:15 No.26530934 Report

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>>26530780
>>26530788
>Smogon logic in a fucking anime

Now I know you're autistic

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:53:07 No.26530958 Report

Quoted By: >>26530978

>>26530929
Do you legitimately think having the Mega Charizard X fight with Mewtwo AT THE VERY END is what ruined it? Do you have that huge a fucking issue with Megas?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:53:13 No.26530960 Report

Quoted By: >>26530975

>>26530839
Edgier that most other things in this franchise at least, and this is coming from a fan of the manga.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:54:33 No.26530975 Report

Quoted By: >>26531037

>>26530960
sure, but just because something is "edgy" does not make it shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:54:58 No.26530978 Report

Quoted By: >>26531012

>>26530958
>Do you have that huge a fucking issue with Megas?
I do, but did you not read my post? It was a tiny turd on top of a shit sundae.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:54:59 No.26530979 Report

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>>26530522
>the main anime will never make you cry like a little girl over a battle like origins did

not sure about the girl part but if yu really cried then you're definitely some little underage faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:55:58 No.26530995 Report

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>>26530883
> u will see a little dead girl in your room tonight
Just how I like them

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:57:17 No.26531012 Report

Quoted By: >>26531075

>>26530978
This literally started when someone complained Origins was ruined by becoming Mega shilling, having what practically amounts to a cameo at the very end of the series is barely "shilling" compared to having entire specials dedicated to showing off each mega, no matter how much better the plot and battles or whatever are, so if pandering to Megas is really such a big fucking issue Origins is the least offender.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 22:59:19 No.26531037 Report

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>>26530975
No but outlandish plot and asspull resolutions do. Half the arcs aren't even worth the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 23:03:07 No.26531075 Report

Quoted By: >>26531139

>>26531012
I thought it was an issue, not THE issue. Origins was pretty shit beforehand. The first episode was by far the most enjoyable one.

I will say that skipping the Champion battle in favor of that stupid mega evolution focus with Mewtwo WAS the last straw for me, though. I could've forgiven everything else. Not that.

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Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 23:06:11 No.26531111 Report

Quoted By: >>26531166

>>26530691
That battle was great. The detail in key shots was impressive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 23:08:05 No.26531139 Report

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>>26531075
The point is that it shouldn't be an issue at all because other animated specials are explicitly designed to show off Mega Evolutions and this one just had the cameo at the end, it barely mattered and wouldn't have made a difference whether he'd had Mega Charizard X or not especially given that Charizard's previous track record. This >>26530770 implied the Mega shilling was the problem and is the initial post I replied to

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 23:08:19 No.26531142 Report

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The mega evolution bit was probably the only good part of the entire 4 episodes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 23:10:35 No.26531166 Report

Quoted By: >>26531224

>>26531111
Nice quads.

The animation director in that one is Masaaki Iwane, he's still on the anime today and is widely regarded as the best or second best animators on the show.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 23:16:32 No.26531224 Report

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>>26531166
He actually did work on the better parts of Origins, including the Charizard X vs. Mewtwo scene.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2016 23:25:00 No.26531304 Report

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>>26530522
>supposedly based on red and blue
>firered and leafgreen designs and elements
>fucking metal claw
>mega evolution at all
there's really not much reason to like it aside from how polished most of it is compared to the anime
but then again, it was a 4 part special, not a periodic show

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2016 02:26:48 No.26533462 Report

Quoted By: >>26533605

>>26530522
>first half is more than half is Red's team being swept by a rhyhorn
>second half is charizard wank, because it's not red's bond with his pokemon that's to be admired, it's Red's bond with fucking charizard.

Ashnime>origins

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2016 02:41:09 No.26533605 Report

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>>26533462
They're both pretty bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2016 07:44:02 No.26536133 Report

Quoted By:

>>26530635
you are the true flamer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2016 09:54:40 No.26536706 Report

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>>26530876
> FRLG design
> Mega Charizard X
>>>> Gen 1

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 31 May 2016 10:04:19 No.26536758 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2016 10:06:12 No.26536765 Report

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>>26530872
>They are literally called "Mega Evolution Specials" and go out of their way to include all Mega Evolutions
Have you even fucking watched them? The only megas to get showcased are Zard X, Absol, Garchomp, Blastoise, Metagross, Fug, Venusaur, Houndoom and to a lesser extent Alakazam. Across 4 episodes.
The Primals get more screentime than anything else beyond Zard and Gross

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2016 10:06:20 No.26536768 Report

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>>26530746
>Red probably tried training his pokemon evenly, so they had a disadvantage versus them.
Red did what every retard did back them, he only used his starter and end with it being overleveled when all of his other pokemon were shit.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 31 May 2016 10:39:47 No.26536885 Report

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>>26530588
>Wulfric
>weakest gym leader in Kalos

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2016 16:59:25 No.26539212 Report

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I did get sort of teary from the origins anime.

But that was just like a huge nostalgia bomb going off in my face and it was great.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 31 May 2016 18:02:43 No.26539767 Report

Quoted By: >>26539791 >>26542382 >>26542515

The main difference between the ashnime and origins is their message

Red sees his pokemon as friends, as equals who must be treated with respect and love. Origins teaches kids to respect animals.

Ash sees pokemon as tools, he abandons them when he no longer needs them. To Ash pokemon are weapons and nothing more, they are disposable. The main anime teaches kids that humans are the only species that matters

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Anonymous Tue 31 May 2016 18:05:46 No.26539791 Report

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>>26539767

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2016 18:08:25 No.26539806 Report

Quoted By: >>26539835

>>26530522
Those models looks like the ashnime

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2016 18:12:24 No.26539835 Report

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>>26539806
The same staff worked on it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2016 18:14:16 No.26539851 Report

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>>26530522
To be quite honest, origines anime is as shit as ashanime. They even gave Red Ashs retarded personality, so theres nothing origins does better than ashanime. The only difference is that origins tries to stay more true to the games, but even that is ignored at will.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2016 22:12:42 No.26542382 Report

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>>26539767
shame you took time to write this its not even funny

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2016 22:24:01 No.26542515 Report

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>>26539767
Can't tell if this is bait or not.....i think it is

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2016 22:24:39 No.26542528 Report

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>>26530570

The original anime is shit. Origins is just okay. It couldve been a lot better if they didnt cram it all in four episodes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2016 22:35:03 No.26542657 Report

Quoted By:

>>26530780
>>26530788
>caring about smogon rules
if rhyhorn used earthquake, it would be pretty boring
>inb4 it would be real
but boring

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2016 22:41:47 No.26542732 Report

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Reminder that any movie adaptation will just be a carbon copy of Origins and probably be infinitely worse because of shitty CGI

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 31 May 2016 22:47:09 No.26542810 Report

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>>26530579
>>26530630
ive been stupid enough to bring low level mons to a type advantage/switch-in fight, but this is red-iculous

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2016 22:52:02 No.26542885 Report

Quoted By: >>26542979 >>26543473

>people unironically defend origins

literally the only good part of it was the mewtwo fight

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2016 22:58:23 No.26542979 Report

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>>26542885
It's the usual "I haven't watched the anime in 1 years but it's probably shit and this is good because it's not that" people again.

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Anonymous Tue 31 May 2016 23:06:23 No.26543103 Report

Quoted By:

>>26530881
Better version

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2016 23:34:21 No.26543473 Report

Quoted By: >>26543507

>>26542885
and is there any pokemon anime that you defend?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2016 23:37:41 No.26543507 Report

Quoted By: >>26543551 >>26543801

>>26543473
The Mystery Dungeon things

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2016 23:41:13 No.26543551 Report

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>>26543507
that's not a fucking anime

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2016 23:57:29 No.26543801 Report

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>>26543507
>Still no Mystery Dungeon anime spin-off series

WHY
H
Y

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jun 2016 00:19:33 No.26544085 Report

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>>26530570
stop using trying to force that meme buzzword you stupid faggot

also anyone who think origins is good is a dumbass genwunner

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jun 2016 00:22:01 No.26544126 Report

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>>26530522
The only thing Origins made me do was feel disgusted by the animation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jun 2016 00:27:13 No.26544187 Report

Quoted By:

>>26530757
KEK

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