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Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 10:18:19 No.26642313 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>26642375 >>26642422 >>26642471 >>26642572 >>26642589 >>26642907 >>26642943 >>26642990 >>26643025 >>26643045 >>26643361 >>26643885 >>26644256 >>26644806 >>26644902

According to the most recent Japanese movie election results, Simisear is the least popular Pokémon ever. How does this make you feel, /vp/?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 10:20:50 No.26642335 Report

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It's a shitty mon, so I'm not surprised.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 10:21:22 No.26642341 Report

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Good. Kill it with water

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 10:22:52 No.26642350 Report

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I hope Game Freak take a hint that no one liked the monkeys and to never pull that shit again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 10:24:50 No.26642363 Report

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a unova pokémon takes the last place

just as expected

WT Tue 07 Jun 2016 10:24:51 No.26642364 Report

Quoted By: >>26642397 >>26642958 >>26643723 >>26643954 >>26644085

Weird, even though all the Simi's suck, I would've thought Simisear would be the better out of the 3...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 10:26:21 No.26642375 Report

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>>26642313
>How does this make you feel, /vp/?

Elated. They might've botched the top bracket, but they got this one right.

Bless you, Japan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 10:26:40 No.26642377 Report

Quoted By: >>26642823

I don't know why they added the stupid pot belly. Pansear was so based, but then it evolves into this shithead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 10:28:56 No.26642391 Report

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>tfw no one likes hot monkey dick

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 10:28:58 No.26642392 Report

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I honestly kinda like it, but I think most of that comes from using it in White when it first came out. I don't really have any emotions about it receiving the least amount of votes though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 10:29:28 No.26642397 Report

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>>26642364
How? Simisage is pretty cool, while Simipour has the hair.

Sage has a stupid face, a stupid shrug, and stupid hair.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 10:30:01 No.26642399 Report

Quoted By: >>26642413 >>26642437 >>26643862

How is it possible that the fucking water one is more popular? That thing is disgusting

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 10:31:06 No.26642407 Report

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LOL it will only boost its popularity now

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 10:31:37 No.26642413 Report

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>>26642399
It's at least waifu material for some weird ass nip.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 10:33:36 No.26642422 Report

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>>26642313
well those are ugly but there are uglier things out there like seismitoad, genies and gardeshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 10:35:35 No.26642437 Report

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>>26642399
It has spooky eyes. That alone makes it cooler than the fire one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 10:39:19 No.26642471 Report

Quoted By:

>>26642313

Simipour should have been lower on the list.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 10:55:11 No.26642572 Report

Quoted By: >>26642583 >>26642606

>>26642313
>#01 Greninja
I guess there's no accounting for taste.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 10:56:30 No.26642583 Report

Quoted By: >>26643975

>>26642572
What? Are you out of your God damn mind? You'd have to be a literal autist to not find the idea of a frog ninja one of the coolest and most badass things ever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 10:56:59 No.26642589 Report

Quoted By: >>26642606

>>26642313
>arceus is second
I expected legendaries to be the most popular, but fucking what

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 10:58:16 No.26642601 Report

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The elemental monkeys are absolutely abysmal designs, so this is fine by me. There are more hideous pokemon designs, but they at least come with some sort of charm. These guys were always completely uninspired.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 10:59:02 No.26642606 Report

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>>26642572
>>26642589
Reminder that the poll was to find which pokemon will be distributed with the movie, so popularity wasn't the only factor.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 11:12:19 No.26642677 Report

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>yfw GameFreak will still try to shove the monkays in some early game grassy area in SM

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 11:18:24 No.26642717 Report

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Cue the contrarian losers who will jump to this thing's defense aka meme it to death.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 11:30:40 No.26642823 Report

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>>26642377
not the extremely gay limp wrists coupled with its fabulous neck fur and metro hair?
God the entire thing was creepy. Chose the fire monkey my first White run and expected him to be a main team member until this came out

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 11:32:12 No.26642833 Report

Quoted By: >>26642960

While I'm not a fan of simisear, he definitely doesn't seem like he'd be the worst. He's just kind of forgettable really.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 11:40:21 No.26642907 Report

Quoted By: >>26642951

>>26642313
Does anyone know what that special edition 3DS looks like? I can't find any pictures..

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 11:47:32 No.26642943 Report

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>>26642313
But, I kinda like Simisear

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 11:50:04 No.26642951 Report

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>>26642907

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 11:50:11 No.26642954 Report

Quoted By: >>26643547

>oh man what pokemon should we get distributed
>how about a starter form the most recent generation?

Absolutely retarded voters

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 11:50:26 No.26642958 Report

Quoted By:

>>26642364
The random beer gut ruins him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 11:50:37 No.26642960 Report

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>>26642833
That's the point. No one liked him enough to vote for him.
No one can even remember him strongly enough to actually dislike him.
That's a genuine failure of a design.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 11:56:56 No.26642990 Report

Quoted By:

>>26642313
It's important to realize that Simsear isn't the most hated pokémon, it's just that not many people would vote for it being the best.

If there were a different poll for disliked pokémon it would still be up there, but not no. 1.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 12:00:20 No.26643010 Report

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I actually mildly like Simisear, but he's so forgettable and unimportant that nobody voted for him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 12:01:43 No.26643014 Report

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I used one in Y

And I used a simisage in white

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 12:02:18 No.26643018 Report

Quoted By: >>26643023 >>26644626

Deservedly. Simisear is the worst looking member of a copypaste watered down pseudostarter dex filler trio further still within the worst designed generation of Pokemon.

That sentence is as much of a clusterfuck as this generic uninspired metromonkey, and I hope GF takes a hint from this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 12:03:29 No.26643023 Report

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>>26643018
>Deservedly
There are worse pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 12:03:49 No.26643025 Report

Quoted By:

>>26642313
The monkeys are pretty shit but Simieage is my favorite of them. Still not surprised.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 12:05:05 No.26643032 Report

Quoted By:

It deserves it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 12:08:01 No.26643045 Report

Quoted By: >>26643052 >>26643053

>>26642313
And Greninja the most popular
Confirms the fact that general fanbase opinion on Gens is the contrary of /vp/'s (/vp/ loves Gen 5 and hates Gen 6)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 12:10:07 No.26643052 Report

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>>26643045
Greninja's basically the only new pokemon in gen 6. Odds are in his favor

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 12:10:52 No.26643053 Report

Quoted By: >>26643110

>>26643045
>general fanbase
It's a Japan only poll and it incentivizes voting for legendaries so they can get an event.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 12:14:49 No.26643078 Report

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Good. Monkeys are shit. Worst animal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 12:19:55 No.26643110 Report

Quoted By: >>26643124

>>26643053
Yet they still voted for Greninja and Genesect is the closest a Gen 5 mon got to the top spot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 12:24:41 No.26643124 Report

Quoted By: >>26643127 >>26643147

>>26643110
So? The entire top 30 is filled with legendaries and fucking magnemite, only and idiot would think this poll reflects the general opinion of any group.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 12:25:56 No.26643127 Report

Quoted By: >>26643144

>>26643124

I imagine it reflects the opinion of children quite well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 12:27:23 No.26643135 Report

Quoted By: >>26643148

Where can I find the full list? With all the 720 pogeys.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 12:29:23 No.26643144 Report

Quoted By: >>26643153 >>26643160

>>26643127
I doubt it. Greninja, pikachu and sylveon make sense, but I don't believe most kids know or care about all those legends and mythicals.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 12:30:26 No.26643147 Report

Quoted By: >>26643177

>>26643124
Fucking Magnemite is one of my top 5, you cuntblaster.

Don't talk shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 12:30:46 No.26643148 Report

Quoted By:

>>26643135
We don't have the full list, only the top 100 and dead last.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 12:31:30 No.26643153 Report

Quoted By: >>26643177

>>26643144

Did you not play pokemon as a kid?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 12:32:40 No.26643160 Report

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>>26643144
Maybe not in Burgerland or the Mudslime continent, but Nipland is a completely different beast.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 12:36:33 No.26643177 Report

Quoted By: >>26643186 >>26643222

>>26643153
They are not kids anymore if they have been playing long enough to know dialga, palkia or giratina.

>>26643147
MAGNEMITE IS SHIT.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 12:37:43 No.26643184 Report

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Rip in peece little monkey

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 12:37:49 No.26643186 Report

Quoted By: >>26643205 >>26643277

>>26643177
The Creation Trio is hand-delivered to you in ORAS, numbskull.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 12:38:33 No.26643190 Report

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Someone shop brendan fraser's eyes onto simisear

I have a feeling they would synchro perfectly

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 12:40:50 No.26643205 Report

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>>26643186

Not to mention 2 of them being in Hoopas movie.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 12:43:17 No.26643218 Report

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Bunch of shit tasted faggots.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 12:44:14 No.26643222 Report

Quoted By: >>26643277

>>26643177
You're a shit.

It's one of the most uniquely designed pokemon, has been with us since the beginning and is far more loved than its evolutions.

You just weren't there man, you weren't there are the power plant when it all began. You wouldn't understand, you never will.

Forever a shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 12:46:11 No.26643240 Report

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megas when

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 12:51:46 No.26643277 Report

Quoted By:

>>26643186
Then why aren't the lake guardians higher?

>>26643222
Fuck you, the magnemite episode was one of the first pokemon episodes I watched and I hated it so much.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 12:53:18 No.26643284 Report

Quoted By:

JUST

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 12:55:33 No.26643300 Report

Quoted By:

Somebody post hot monkey dick

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 13:00:46 No.26643340 Report

Quoted By:

What would Japan know they think Lucario is cool.

Simisear is awesome.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 13:03:59 No.26643361 Report

Quoted By: >>26643401 >>26643571

>>26642313
So basically Nintendo confirmed gen 5 is canonically the worse gen of Pokemon.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 13:09:10 No.26643390 Report

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> vote by yellow pillow-fuckers
> they got forced to like it because muh anime
> they only voted for kawaiiii or badassuuuu
Not even surprized

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 13:10:48 No.26643401 Report

Quoted By: >>26643487 >>26643497

>>26643361

If we're going by poll representation that would be gen 2.

24 I
9 II
21 III
17 IV
16 V
13 VI

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 13:29:55 No.26643487 Report

Quoted By:

>>26643401
And the best is therefore Kalos.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 13:31:30 No.26643495 Report

Quoted By:

Gen V was a mistake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 13:31:53 No.26643497 Report

Quoted By: >>26643518 >>26643530

>>26643401
Yeah no. I don't see any gen 2 being the least popular.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 13:35:32 No.26643518 Report

Quoted By: >>26643550

>>26643497
Qwilfish is only slightly memorable for being so forgettable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 13:37:56 No.26643530 Report

Quoted By: >>26643550

>>26643497
Stantler. It's not even memorable as a forgettable pokemon.
Unow too, how many people can even say that Unow is their favorite pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 13:41:11 No.26643547 Report

Quoted By:

>>26642954
Maybe it will have super bullshit moves like Shell Smash or something

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 13:42:03 No.26643550 Report

Quoted By: >>26643570 >>26643577

>>26643518
>>26643530
I don't see them being on the last position of that list.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 13:44:21 No.26643570 Report

Quoted By:

>>26643550
That's because they're so forgettable they're going to get at least a couple hipster votes from that.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 13:44:28 No.26643571 Report

Quoted By:

>>26643361
>Nintendo
Remember, if someone says Nintendo instead of TPC (regarding stuff like this) or Gamefreak (regarding development) they are confirmed for /v/eddit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 13:45:27 No.26643577 Report

Quoted By:

>>26643550
And I can't believe someone voted for Aromatisse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 13:46:23 No.26643588 Report

Quoted By: >>26643610

Unova is best gen because it has enough pokemon to allow for occasional duds as well as really fucking neat ones.

That being said Simisear is a fucking SECOND fire monkey.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 13:48:26 No.26643610 Report

Quoted By: >>26643840

>>26643588
a fucking SECOND fire monkey that made Gen 5 officially the worse gen of the games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 14:00:06 No.26643705 Report

Quoted By:

Jeezus

Am I the only one who likes the monkeys?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 14:02:09 No.26643723 Report

Quoted By: >>26644272

>>26642364

In battle sure

Design fuck no

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 14:18:04 No.26643840 Report

Quoted By:

>>26643610
If one pokemon can ruin an entire game for you then I don't know how you can go outside in real life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 14:21:34 No.26643862 Report

Quoted By:

>>26642399
It has the best gimmick of the trio by being blind. Also, design wise, it's at least kind of cute. Same for Simisage, which is rather cool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 14:22:46 No.26643868 Report

Quoted By:

Its true.
I have multiple shiny Pansears that I will never evolve.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 14:24:10 No.26643885 Report

Quoted By:

>>26642313
I mean is anyone really surprised?

CartoonFan1994

CartoonFan1994 Tue 07 Jun 2016 14:30:48 No.26643926 Report

Quoted By:

It's Unova we're talking about, of course there's going to be a mon from that region on such a low rank.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 14:34:35 No.26643954 Report

Quoted By:

>>26642364
Simisear is HARD outclassed by Infernape.
-Every single stat is worse
-No dual STAB
-Slightly different movepool, sometimes Knock Off is not enough

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 14:34:52 No.26643955 Report

Quoted By: >>26644055

Full list where?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 14:36:47 No.26643975 Report

Quoted By: >>26643989

>>26642583
>frog ninja
Naruto did it first

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 14:38:36 No.26643989 Report

Quoted By:

>>26643975
That's like saying Marvel invented Thor.
It's all references to Jiraiya.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 14:46:43 No.26644055 Report

Quoted By: >>26644317

>>26643955
We only have the top 100
https://twitter.com/SerebiiNet/status/740155327916744704

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 14:48:14 No.26644068 Report

Quoted By: >>26644076 >>26644087 >>26644214

Was this including pre evos or just fully evolved Pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 14:49:08 No.26644076 Report

Quoted By: >>26644092

>>26644068
All 720 Pokémon

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 14:50:36 No.26644085 Report

Quoted By: >>26644108

>>26642364
>the fire monkey looks like it literally hangs out at gay bars as a frequent patron

Not homophobic or anything, but did we REALLY need a literal gay pokemon in the ranks?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 14:51:02 No.26644087 Report

Quoted By:

>>26644068
>Pikachu in 4th
>Was this including pre evos

Anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 14:51:35 No.26644092 Report

Quoted By: >>26644132

>>26644076
Why would a fully evolved Pokemon be in the last spot? That's weird. Wouldn't you forgot Pansear before Simisear?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 14:53:35 No.26644108 Report

Quoted By: >>26644181

>>26644085
>not homophobic
>says something homophobic

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 14:55:57 No.26644132 Report

Quoted By: >>26644296

>>26644092
Did anyone actually waste their fire stone to evolve their fucking monkey?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 15:01:20 No.26644181 Report

Quoted By: >>26644236

>>26644108
>says questioning why a children's video game needed a gay monkey is homophobic
>still wonders why Simisear is at the bottom of the barrel

Simisear cuck please leave.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 15:04:59 No.26644204 Report

Quoted By:

this feels incredibly cathartic to see. The monkeys were okay as rare triple battle gimmick pokemon. The cracks of their bad designs show even worse when they could be found everywhere in the first area of X/Y.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 15:06:44 No.26644214 Report

Quoted By:

>>26644068
>Simisear #720
>Was this including pre evos

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 15:09:25 No.26644236 Report

Quoted By: >>26644284 >>26645471

>>26644181
>Children are not allowed to know anything but straight people exist!!!!

I dont get this "gays arent family friendly" meme. Gay people are some of the most friendly people

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 15:11:33 No.26644256 Report

Quoted By:

>>26642313
I want to see "Most hated pokemon" poll next

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 15:12:37 No.26644270 Report

Quoted By: >>26644836

>Hydreigon above Salamence
>Flygon near-tied with Sally
>Zapdos, Sceptile, FUCKING LEAFEON beat Salamence

B
T
F
O
SALAMENCE A SHIT NOT EVEN MEGAS MADE IT POPULAR

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 15:12:54 No.26644272 Report

Quoted By:

>>26643723
>In battle sure
Simipour is the best one for Water being a better type.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 15:14:56 No.26644284 Report

Quoted By:

>>26644236
The votes don't lie, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 15:15:56 No.26644296 Report

Quoted By: >>26644320

>>26644132
What else in BW would've used it instead?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 15:18:30 No.26644317 Report

Quoted By:

>>26644055
>top 10 is meloetta
>beat out mewtwo
I'm glad japan has taste.

>coil meme still going strong in the top 25 (#24)
aww yes

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 15:18:52 No.26644320 Report

Quoted By:

>>26644296
They sell pretty well at pokemarts, I hear.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 15:20:49 No.26644330 Report

Quoted By:

fucking hated the monkeys

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 16:01:01 No.26644626 Report

Quoted By:

>>26643018
Your sentence was an even greater clusterfuck of nonsense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 16:21:24 No.26644806 Report

Quoted By:

>>26642313
Atleast sear doesnt have that retarded smug face that sage has.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 16:25:34 No.26644836 Report

Quoted By:

>>26644270
Salamence was always one of the less popular pseudos

Genwunners hated how it stole Dragonite's niche (until Multiscale became a thing)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 16:31:16 No.26644902 Report

Quoted By:

>>26642313

At least it's not the one I like the most.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Jun 2016 17:42:02 No.26645471 Report

Quoted By:

>>26644236
It's a Pokemon you moron, not a person.

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