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Anonymous Fri 10 Jun 2016 17:40:04 No.26683127 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>26683164 >>26683178 >>26683207 >>26683451 >>26683469 >>26683604 >>26683605 >>26683632 >>26685922 >>26686067 >>26686485

Why doesn't GF just make all pokemons viable?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jun 2016 17:42:12 No.26683164 Report

Quoted By: >>26683367 >>26686093

>>26683127
Because its a RPG.

Not every gear and class/job/character are all viable in the same conditions.
Pokémon works both as Gear AND Characters, so it's obvious that the early gear is going to fall short against the latest ones.

This said, a greater lot of Pokémon should be viable, and a fair amount of late-game Mons are Ok at best.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 10 Jun 2016 17:44:09 No.26683178 Report

Quoted By: >>26684303

>>26683127

Pokémon is not a fighting game.

Pokémon is a role-playing video games about collecting supernatural creatures known as Pocket Monsters/Pokémon.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 10 Jun 2016 17:47:04 No.26683207 Report

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>>26683127
>Pokemons

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jun 2016 18:03:00 No.26683367 Report

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>>26683164
What this guy said. If all pokémon were equal, there wouldn't really be much of a reason to collect and evolve new ones.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jun 2016 18:10:34 No.26683434 Report

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Because that's COMMUNISM

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jun 2016 18:11:49 No.26683451 Report

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>>26683127
Completely balancing pvp in any game is fucking impossible.

For the actual story, any Pokemon can beat the game. Some just have it easier than others.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jun 2016 18:13:07 No.26683469 Report

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>>26683127
Why didn't your parents make you viable?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jun 2016 18:21:49 No.26683561 Report

Quoted By: >>26683672

I really want a Showdown tier where all Pokemon are viable by balancing them with levels. Total shitmons can be level 100, while legendaries may be in the 30-40 ranges.

Actually balancing them all would be really difficult, but a man can dream.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jun 2016 18:25:35 No.26683604 Report

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>>26683127
>balancing all Pokemon
OK, how would you make Delibird viable?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jun 2016 18:25:46 No.26683605 Report

Quoted By: >>26683618

>>26683127
Dota is pretty much the most balanced game there is, and even that only has about 100 properly competitive characters. And you expect Gamefreak to make however many hundreds of fully-evolved Pokémon all viable? Notta chance!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jun 2016 18:27:12 No.26683618 Report

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>>26683605
>DOTA
>Balanced
It's more balanced than others, but heroes still have their peaks and valleys. Hoo-Hah, Troll and Huskar have been kind of shafted lately.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jun 2016 18:28:27 No.26683632 Report

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>>26683127
Rpg genre.

The whole concept of having "real" championships based off an rpg game is retarded.

The closet you can get to the anime/super tryhard poopsock pokemon "fair" fights is in pokken and that's dying because of no updates.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jun 2016 18:32:48 No.26683672 Report

Quoted By: >>26683879

>>26683561
Literally the random battle mode.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jun 2016 18:53:19 No.26683879 Report

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>>26683672
Right, but not random. I want to build a team for that tier.

And even on Randoms, the balance is still iffy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jun 2016 19:27:16 No.26684251 Report

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when I was a kid I thought all pokemons from the same type were equal and it was just a matter of aesthetics picking one over another.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jun 2016 19:31:47 No.26684303 Report

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>>26683178
Yet the core of the gameplay revolves around battling, you cannot catch'em all without battling to make them evolve.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jun 2016 19:36:40 No.26684358 Report

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they need to go back and redistribute the stats of all fully evolved pokes to be basically equal. that wouldn't fix everything but it would help. they should rebalance the movepools too

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jun 2016 22:12:44 No.26685922 Report

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>>26683127
Fuck you Tyrantrum is a fucking bro

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jun 2016 22:26:34 No.26686067 Report

Quoted By: >>26686105

>>26683127

They are almost all "viable" when not constrained by smogon rules. Many rely on gimmick sets, but they work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jun 2016 22:28:38 No.26686093 Report

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>>26683164
Not exactly.
Legendary mons should all be viable.
Yet, they create things like Regigigas which are totally uselless in competitive.
The point is, GF had no idea of how to balance the meta.
Even startes doesn't make sense. We have OP things like Greninja or Blaziken and shit things like Meganium or Torterra.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jun 2016 22:29:32 No.26686105 Report

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>>26686067
Yeah, like VGC has such a variety of Pokemon.

Ruby !OffRailsfU

Ruby !OffRailsfU Fri 10 Jun 2016 22:29:55 No.26686116 Report

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There are 721 Pokemon as of the sixth generation, of which, 384 (give or take maybe 1 or 2 if I made a mistake) have no further evolutions. Beyond this, there are also a few pokemon which are perfectly viable with eviolite.

Now tell me it is possible for Game Freak to balance this metagame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jun 2016 23:01:12 No.26686485 Report

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>>26683127
Because it wouldn't be realistic for a flower to be as strong as a God that controls space.

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