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Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 15:43:54 No.26749674 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>26749694 >>26749749 >>26749871 >>26752440 >>26753105 >>26754772

What if they decided to remove IVs in Sun/Moon and that's why Virtual Console Pokemon RBY is not compatible with the current gen? Or they are just too lazy to release an update for Pokebank.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 15:45:43 No.26749691 Report

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>Game freak gets rid if IVs
>brings back DVs instead

Oh fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 15:45:54 No.26749694 Report

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>>26749674

Nah. I don't lile theories. I like facts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 15:49:08 No.26749728 Report

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Another possibilities are either IV gets randomized or scaled in proportion, like 15 DV becomes 31 IV.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 15:52:28 No.26749749 Report

Quoted By: >>26749813

>>26749674
>What if they decided to remove IVs in Sun/Moon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 15:54:48 No.26749776 Report

Quoted By: >>26749813

How is this a theory?
There is no evidence to support it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 15:59:08 No.26749813 Report

Quoted By: >>26750745 >>26751272 >>26751408 >>26752219

>>26749776
My "evidence":
1) "Casualisation" tendency that everyone talks about
2) Inability to transfer pokemon to ORAS

>>26749749
That's what I'd like to be true.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 16:06:12 No.26749871 Report

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>>26749674
I'd have thought it was pretty obvious that the reason you can't transfer the Pokemon to Gen 6 is simply a marketing trick by Nintendo so that there are more incentives to buy Gen 7. Removing IVs seems unlikely at this point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 16:48:05 No.26750327 Report

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they'll probably scale DVs to IVs. all you need is a lookup table when sending them over and you're basically covered for Gen 1 and Gen 2

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 16:50:19 No.26750349 Report

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Have we seen a pokemon's in game stat/move sheet yet?

If the blue pentagon is gone or replaced anything is possible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 17:25:05 No.26750745 Report

Quoted By: >>26750831

>>26749813
Eventually we will change the IVs in-game
Stop lying faggot, nobody cares about your shitty ideas

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 17:29:27 No.26750791 Report

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Shut up faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 17:32:30 No.26750831 Report

Quoted By: >>26751259

>>26750745
I am a faggot indeed but I wasnt lying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 18:05:36 No.26751259 Report

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>>26750831

kys desu famiglia

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 18:07:10 No.26751272 Report

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>>26749813
>"evidence"
"""""Evidence"""""
keep grasping at straws, faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 18:22:42 No.26751408 Report

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>>26749813
ooooooooooooooooooooooor
They don't want to update the current games.
They didn't update XY when ORAS was released, bc "muh gameplay".

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 18:47:07 No.26751598 Report

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They need to change the IV systems to at least include Hidden-Power Fairy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 19:20:26 No.26751960 Report

Quoted By: >>26751986 >>26752755

Christ the scary thing is that I can actually see this as being true.

GameFreak scrapping IVs because in the competitive field everyone has perfect IVs and in the casual world it means kids who don't inject or understand anything about game mechanics will always be in a losing position.

I remember Masuda being questioned about IVs in an interview and he said that they're not meant to be thought of as stat points, but that they're designed to make each caught Pokemon unique. I wouldn't be surprised if the mechanic gets shifted a lot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 19:23:07 No.26751986 Report

Quoted By: >>26752109

>>26751960
And IVs getting shafted is bad why? The "uniqueness" argument is total bullshit anyways, if they really wanted to do that right, they should just give each Pokemon small variations in colour.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 19:32:14 No.26752109 Report

Quoted By: >>26752244

>>26751986

I'm not totally against IVs being removed, but the whole point of 'uniqueness' wouldn't be resolved by changing the colour.

Each Pokemon needs unique potential stat spreads to make battles and raising Pokemon interesting. You don't want to homogenize every Pokemon you battle in the wild. Some are interesting because they outspeed you and others are bulky and it's fun be taken aback by their resilience.

Besides, the uniqueness factor isn't an 'argument', it's literally the reason IVs are in the game - Masuda has said this himself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 19:40:41 No.26752219 Report

Quoted By: >>26752258 >>26752349

>>26749813
And who said you can't send pokemon from oras to s&m?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 19:43:20 No.26752244 Report

Quoted By: >>26753093

>>26752109
And it's a shit reason. Natures alreadymake the stat differences in Pokemon much more pronounced and achieve the same result as IVs without restricting people who don't want to cheat from official competitions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 19:44:17 No.26752258 Report

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>>26752219
They can make just one way transfer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 19:53:08 No.26752349 Report

Quoted By: >>26752377 >>26752384 >>26752639 >>26752685 >>26752702

>>26752219

It's already been announced that there is no Previous-gen compatibility and the only Pokemon you'll be able to trade across is from R/B/Y on the Virtual Console.

OP does make a good point. It's not proof, but it is evidence that something may be happening to the IV system. Given we already have plenty of old mons appearing in Alola, it doesn't make sense that with the advent of Bank you still can't move Pokemon to S/M.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 19:55:22 No.26752377 Report

Quoted By: >>26752778

>>26752349
>It's already been announced that there is no Previous-gen compatibility
Really? I did not know that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 19:55:56 No.26752384 Report

Quoted By: >>26752778

>>26752349
You're legit retarded. The whole point of Pokémon Bank was to transport Pokémon between games and generations.

The Pokémon from RBY will be able to go to SM through Pokémon Bank, not other mean

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 19:59:50 No.26752440 Report

Quoted By: >>26752724 >>26752756

>>26749674
IVs are the worst thing about Pokemon so I hope so. EVs are great and shows how well you trained a pokemon, IVs are literally "my pokemon are perfect because I bred them that way" Doesn't sound very kid friendly, does it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 20:13:24 No.26752639 Report

Quoted By: >>26752778

>>26752349
How fucking backwards retarded do you have to be to believe such a thing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 20:14:46 No.26752661 Report

Quoted By: >>26753324

The only reason RBY can only transfer to SM and not ORAS is because Missingno is going to be made canon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 20:16:47 No.26752685 Report

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>>26752349
>It's already been announced that there is no Previous-gen compatibility
I'm gonna need a source on this one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 20:18:17 No.26752702 Report

Quoted By: >>26752777

>>26752349
Nope: http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-video-games/pokemon-bank/

Pokemon captured in X, Y, AS, and OR can be transfered to Sun and Moon through the bank.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 20:19:45 No.26752724 Report

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>>26752440

>battle specific mons to git gud
>well-trained

are you proud of your pokemons power as well?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 20:22:28 No.26752755 Report

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>>26751960

If they really worried about "muh competition", they wouldnt blatantly make pokemon in tiers.

IV's are here to stay forever

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 20:22:29 No.26752756 Report

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>>26752440
Kids don't care about competitive and those who do just cheat anyway, so it all evens out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 20:24:01 No.26752777 Report

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>>26752702
This also applies to pokemon cuptured from the past 4 generations (through some short of transfer daisy chain). It just that you can't directly trade/battle between XY/ORAS and Sun Moon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 20:24:02 No.26752778 Report

Quoted By: >>26752834

>>26752639
>>26752384
>>26752377

Apologies, it's just simple confusion. R/B/Y can only be moved to S/M and not ORAS/XY.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 20:29:12 No.26752834 Report

Quoted By: >>26752919

>>26752778
Another third gen case would be pure madness at this point and would piss off so many people it's not even fun. GF may be retarded but they're not insane.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 20:35:36 No.26752919 Report

Quoted By: >>26752991 >>26754193

>>26752834
Gen3 case became a thing only because there were no way to connect GBA with GBC. Now if they decide to change the format of pokemon, they could just convert existing mons. Like removing or changing IVs, making nidoqueen and nidoking same species and much more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 20:39:32 No.26752991 Report

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>>26752919
It was just laziness, there's absolutely no justification.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 20:46:14 No.26753093 Report

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>>26752244
but every pokemon with the same nature would be literally the same. IVs are an important distinction and considering how fucking easy it is to IV breed, get over yourself Anon.

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Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 20:47:11 No.26753105 Report

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>>26749674
What if OP was straight

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 20:56:00 No.26753250 Report

Quoted By: >>26753270 >>26753277 >>26753375

But will something like the blue hexagon will be back?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 20:57:11 No.26753270 Report

Quoted By: >>26753337 >>26753661

>>26753250
>five sides
>hexagon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 20:57:20 No.26753277 Report

Quoted By: >>26753661

>>26753250
That's a pentagon anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 20:59:45 No.26753324 Report

Quoted By: >>26753343

>>26752661
I would love the fuck out of this. Too bad it'll never happen, the closest I would ever dare to hope for is another victiny sort of thing where they give us a special new pokemon that registers as #0 in the local dex to acknowledge the fact that glitch/out of dex range pokemon exist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 21:01:09 No.26753337 Report

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>>26753270
I count over 100 edges on that figure anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 21:01:29 No.26753343 Report

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>>26753324
I think it would be a neat easter egg to allow people to transfer a glitchmon over from RBY VC, and then treat it like an event later on for anyone that missed it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 21:04:21 No.26753375 Report

Quoted By: >>26753421 >>26753498

can some one please explain to me what this is >>26753250
what function does those shapes have?

captcha: Select all images with a store front.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 21:07:30 No.26753421 Report

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>>26753375
that icon means that pokemon originated in a gen 6 game and is therefore eligible for battle spot matches and/or vgc matches

of course it won't really matter after november

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 21:12:40 No.26753498 Report

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>>26753375
Illuminati

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 21:27:36 No.26753661 Report

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>>26753270
>>26753277
Sorry, brainfarted, but still same question.

Will they repeat something like that? Seems more annoying than useful

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 22:09:40 No.26754193 Report

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>>26752919
I don't think it's a problem with the link cables; I think it's a problem with the added Nature feature.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 22:57:50 No.26754772 Report

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>>26749674
> Pokemon transferred from red and blue automatically have perfect ivs.

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