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Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 18:10:49 No.26751312 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>26751329 >>26751509 >>26751702 >>26752739

Venusaur: 525 BST
Blastoise: 530 BST
Charizard: 534 BST

Meganium: 525 BST
Feraligatr: 530 BST
Typhlosion: 534 BST

Sceptile: 530 BST
Blaziken: 530 BST
Swampert: 535 BST

Torterra: 525 BST
Empoleon: 530 BST
Infernape: 534 BST

Serperior: 528 BST
Samurott: 528 BST
Emboar: 528

Chesnaught: 530 BST
Greninja: 530 BST
Delphox: 534 BST

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 18:12:52 No.26751329 Report

Quoted By: >>26751418 >>26751652

>>26751312
10-point buff to Grass starters when?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 18:17:52 No.26751368 Report

Quoted By: >>26751448 >>26751495 >>26751501 >>26751805

Wait, they don't all have equal BST? For what purpose? This triggers me. How did they determine who got a little more or a little less?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 18:24:16 No.26751418 Report

Quoted By: >>26751470 >>26751478 >>26751529

>>26751329
>Buffing Serperior

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 18:27:48 No.26751448 Report

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>>26751368
Favoritism, duh

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 18:31:29 No.26751470 Report

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>>26751418
>Buffing Mega Venusaur

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 18:32:29 No.26751478 Report

Quoted By: >>26751499

>>26751418
>+10 ATK

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 18:35:45 No.26751495 Report

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>>26751368
Probably their way of making them equal for in- game use. Since the first few gyms are historically strong against fire type, they gave it a little buff.

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Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 18:36:19 No.26751499 Report

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>>26751478
>It now gets Superpower as a move tutor.
I wouldn't put it past GF at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 18:36:42 No.26751501 Report

Quoted By: >>26751688

>>26751368
Originally, starters were designed as a pseudo difficulty level; where Bulbasaur was effective earlier and evolved quicker, and Charmander started out weaker and took longer to evolve, but ended up stronger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 18:37:42 No.26751509 Report

Quoted By: >>26751517

>>26751312
?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 18:38:44 No.26751517 Report

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>>26751509
!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 18:39:59 No.26751529 Report

Quoted By: >>26751555 >>26751568 >>26751610 >>26751647 >>26751653

>>26751418
Imagine grass/dragon mega serperior with buffed speed and contrary draco meteor

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Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 18:42:39 No.26751555 Report

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>>26751529
I'd rather not

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 18:44:08 No.26751568 Report

Quoted By: >>26751641

>>26751529
Fuck that. Mega Sceptile should have gotten Draco Meteor and Contrary.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 18:48:12 No.26751610 Report

Quoted By: >>26751647

>>26751529
Give it Stored Power too

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Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 18:51:04 No.26751641 Report

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>>26751568
>Serperior on its own is better than Sceptile with a Mega

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 18:51:41 No.26751647 Report

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>>26751529
>>26751610
>we five moveslots now
>substitute
>close combat
>draco meteor
>hp fire/giga drain
>ingrain
YOU CANT STOP ME NOW

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 18:52:21 No.26751652 Report

Quoted By: >>26751692

>>26751329
535 for everyone
>Venusaur with 10 more HP -> base 90 HP
>Meganium...
>Sceptile with 5 more speed -> base 125 speed
>Torterra with 10 more HP -> 105 HP
>Serperior with 7 more speed -> 120 speed
>Chesnaught with 5 more sp.defence -> 80 s.def.
plz

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 18:52:34 No.26751653 Report

Quoted By: >>26751703

>>26751529
That's kinda lame, Sceptile already has the Dragon thing.

Why not

>Grass/Fire Mega Serperior with Overheat and V-Create

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 18:55:49 No.26751688 Report

Quoted By: >>26751778

>>26751501
Venausaur was better than Charizard til Megas though. Even in Gen 1 Venusaur had lots of god tier moves, Leech Seed Toxic glitch combo, Sleep and Stun Powder, and most importantly guaranteed crit STAB Razor Leaf.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 18:56:04 No.26751692 Report

Quoted By: >>26751704

>>26751652
>120 speed
Fuck man, it already outspeeds the Latis.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 18:56:58 No.26751702 Report

Quoted By: >>26751718 >>26751723 >>26751728

>>26751312
Out of all of those only Blazekin, Charazard, Veanusuar, and Serperior see high level competitive play correct?

2 fire starters, 2 grass starters, being a water fag must suck.

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Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 18:57:02 No.26751703 Report

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>>26751653
>tfw contrary v-create

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 18:57:03 No.26751704 Report

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>>26751692
What relevant threats does it outspeed with 120 as opposed to 113? Can't think of anything but Starmie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 18:58:17 No.26751718 Report

Quoted By: >>26751778

>>26751702
>what is Greninja

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 18:58:58 No.26751723 Report

Quoted By: >>26751778 >>26751790

>>26751702
Blastoise, Feraligatr, Swampert and Empoleon are all perfectly viable.
Fucking Greninja is broken.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 18:59:10 No.26751728 Report

Quoted By: >>26751778

>>26751702
Swampert and Blastoise arent bad. Feraligatr just has fierce competition from Gyarados, and Greninja fucks OU sideways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 19:03:30 No.26751778 Report

Quoted By: >>26751843

>>26751718
>>26751723
>>26751728
Oh shit I forgot Greninja

So 2 fire, 2 grass, 1 water.

>Blastoise, Feraligatr, Swampert and Empoleon are all perfectly viable.

OU or better anon

>>26751688
And yea Veanusuar was always best Kanto starter really, the mega zards give him competition but he's still really good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 19:04:24 No.26751790 Report

Quoted By: >>26751831 >>26751843

>>26751723
Empoleon is average at best. The lack of recovery really hurts it and is easily walled.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 19:05:21 No.26751805 Report

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>>26751368
In RBY, the starters had the same stat total - 425. Presumably to add a little more variety, the three starters got slightly different amounts of points added to either Special Attack or Special Defense - whichever didn't inherit the old Special value presplit. Venusaur got an even 100/100 setup, Charizard got 109 SAtk, and Blastoise gained 105 SDef.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 19:07:46 No.26751831 Report

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>>26751790
Thats why you use it with defog, rocks and scald + coverage, and not as a sweeper.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 19:08:56 No.26751843 Report

Quoted By: >>26751868

>>26751778
>>26751790
These. Gatr is locked out of OU by Azumaril, but it still has a rather good niche in SD and hitting harder than Gyarados while being bulkier than Crawdaunt.

Empoleon would be OU if it had Roost. Killer defensive typing, good Sp. Attack, access to both pebbles and Roar, it has a lot.

Mega Blastoise is just a slow Starmie. Rapid Spin is not what it used to be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 19:11:02 No.26751868 Report

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>>26751843
I can easily see Feraligatr in OU if it gets a descent mega. It has all the tools for a great pokemon, it just lacks some stats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 19:48:20 No.26752297 Report

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Serperior and Feraligatr rose in viabilty because of their hidden abilities. I hope Gamefreak will buff some old abilities like Leaf Guard (a worse Hydration), Run Away and Illuminate or retcon the distribution altogether (I'm looking at you Scolipede).

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jun 2016 20:21:06 No.26752739 Report

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>>26751312
>Fire Starters always have more BST

Why?

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