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Anonymous Mon 20 Jun 2016 16:12:26 No.26810175 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>26810318 >>26810431 >>26810439 >>26813500 >>26813953 >>26815773 >>26815791 >>26815927 >>26816434 >>26816442

If Lando-I needs to be banned (it doesn't), then so do the rest of these Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Jun 2016 16:23:52 No.26810285 Report

Quoted By: >>26810510

>82.8%
Holy fuck. Ubers is dead.

But, OP, the problem isn't "that mon is used more than others", the problem is "the mon is used way more than other".

~20% or so is understandable, but ~30% is really starting to push it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Jun 2016 16:25:45 No.26810318 Report

Quoted By:

>>26810175
Ground type was a mistake

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Jun 2016 16:36:50 No.26810431 Report

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>>26810175
UU, NU and PU confirmed for most healthy metas

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Jun 2016 16:38:16 No.26810439 Report

Quoted By: >>26810468

>>26810175
Flygon should stay RU. If anything Ayy lmao needs to go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Jun 2016 16:41:43 No.26810468 Report

Quoted By: >>26810478

>>26810439
who ? I thought of Beheeyem but that shit's NU

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Jun 2016 16:42:19 No.26810478 Report

Quoted By: >>26810486 >>26810501 >>26810608

>>26810468

Alomomola

It and Vaporeon need to swap tiers

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Jun 2016 16:43:26 No.26810486 Report

Quoted By: >>26816091

>>26810478
oh yeah, I hated that thing when I played RU, Glalie with Freeze Dry can break through physically defensive ones, but specially defensive ones were a fucking pain, usually had to rely on Dark Pulse flinches from Specs Clawitzer

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Jun 2016 16:44:46 No.26810501 Report

Quoted By: >>26810608

>>26810478
Vaporeon is fucking shit in UU yeah. People only use it because it's a typical Gen 1 favourite.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 20 Jun 2016 16:45:53 No.26810510 Report

Quoted By: >>26813820 >>26817161

>>26810285
Ubers has always been centralized. Every Gen had some sort of a king that was two cuts above the rest.
>Mewtwo
>Mewtwo again, albeit not as uncontested.
>Kee-ogri
>Kee-ogri
>Kee-ogri
>Xerneas, then P-don.
If anything, having two super giants in P-don and Xerneas is more healthy, because you need more team variety to be able to beat both.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Jun 2016 16:53:18 No.26810582 Report

Quoted By: >>26815026

>9 posts
>Nobody notices OP called it Lando-I.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Jun 2016 16:56:26 No.26810608 Report

Quoted By: >>26810628 >>26810664 >>26810721

>>26810501
Vaporeon is pretty damn good if you know how to use it, and I'm speaking from experience.

>>26810478
>It and Vaporeon need to swap tiers
Why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Jun 2016 16:59:02 No.26810628 Report

Quoted By: >>26810645 >>26810737

>>26810608
If you're not 1500 or more on the ladder you can fuck right off. Vaporeon is the only mon ranked D in the smogon UU viability ranking. It's literally the worst UU mons, there are some RU and NU Pokemon that are better in UU than Vaporeon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Jun 2016 17:01:10 No.26810645 Report

Quoted By: >>26810659 >>26810721

>>26810628
>le ladder meme xD
You should fuck off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Jun 2016 17:02:07 No.26810659 Report

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>>26810645
I found the shitter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Jun 2016 17:02:29 No.26810664 Report

Quoted By: >>26810721 >>26810737

>>26810608

Because Alomomola completely outclasses Vaporeon because of higher HP (which means its Wishes heal more) and Regenerator (meaning it doesn't need to rely on its own wishes for recovery)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Jun 2016 17:07:35 No.26810721 Report

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>>26810608
>>26810664

EVERY bulky water in UU outclasses Vaporeon. It doesn't help that Suicune is one of the best mons in the tier and bulky Sylveon does wishpass better in every way conceivable.

>>26810645
It's the truth. Also, every idiot can beat other people with gimmicky Pokemon on the lower parts of the ladder.

You should wish for a drop because it might actually be good in RU if Alomomola is out of the way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Jun 2016 17:08:40 No.26810737 Report

Quoted By: >>26810866

>>26810628
>>26810664
Crazy to think there was a time when Vaporeon was unquestionably OU and Alomomola was NU of all things. I can understand Vape dropping due to the weather change, but it's interesting that Mola got more viable despite its shitty defense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Jun 2016 17:21:32 No.26810866 Report

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>>26810737

Mola's physical defense is higher than Vaporeon's

Its Special Defense is lower, but its higher HP balances it out

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 20 Jun 2016 21:48:02 No.26813500 Report

Quoted By: >>26813629 >>26813645

>>26810175
>Mence in UU

Holy shit, what's up with that power creep?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Jun 2016 21:57:35 No.26813629 Report

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>>26813500

Charizard X is a better Dragon Dancer

Scarf set gives Fairies free switch-ins, and the only move it has that can deal with them is Iron Tail, which has shit accuracy

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Jun 2016 21:58:34 No.26813645 Report

Quoted By: >>26816203

>>26813500
To be fair, it IS the most powerful thing in that tier.

If it weren't banned already, it would sit with Staraptor and Palkia for being absolutely monstrous in a lower tier, but kinda shit in the higher one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Jun 2016 22:11:01 No.26813820 Report

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>>26810510
>If anything, having two super giants in P-don and Xerneas is more healthy, because you need more team variety to be able to beat both.
Or you just run Groudon like everyone else since it is weak to itself and resists Xerneas

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Jun 2016 22:21:19 No.26813953 Report

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>>26810175
>only 20%
Nah, Mesprit's fine.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 21 Jun 2016 00:03:16 No.26815026 Report

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>>26810582
>caring about the abortion trio enough to notice the mistake

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jun 2016 01:01:31 No.26815677 Report

Quoted By: >>26815735

FUCK OFF SMOGON, IT'S A GAME FOR CHILDREN

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jun 2016 01:05:33 No.26815735 Report

Quoted By: >>26815756

>>26815677
Football is game for children too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jun 2016 01:07:15 No.26815756 Report

Quoted By: >>26815917

>>26815735
Football is a sport, fuck off Smogon. Pokemon will never, ever be a sport.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jun 2016 01:09:01 No.26815773 Report

Quoted By:

>>26810175
It needs to be removed from the game first along with its two brothers

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jun 2016 01:10:41 No.26815791 Report

Quoted By: >>26816116

>>26810175
The only thing that keeps me playing Pokemon games is the comfort that tourneyfags will never, ever be catered to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jun 2016 01:21:34 No.26815917 Report

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>>26815756
Well not with that attitude.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jun 2016 01:22:42 No.26815927 Report

Quoted By:

>>26810175
>being a blind Smogon drone

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jun 2016 01:38:07 No.26816091 Report

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>>26810486
Jellisent is just a great counter to it. Especially if you can predict the switch to avoid toxic and then outspeed it w taunt. Jellicent /Bronzong may be the best defensive core in the tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jun 2016 01:40:20 No.26816116 Report

Quoted By: >>26816139

>>26815791
>never, ever
>fairy happened
sure thing buckaroo

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jun 2016 01:41:43 No.26816139 Report

Quoted By: >>26816381 >>26816440

>>26816116
>Tourneyfags unironically think fairy was their doing
Fairy happened because girls like cute things you embarrassment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jun 2016 01:47:00 No.26816203 Report

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>>26813645
>Palkia
I thought Reshiram and Deoxys-N, the most useless Uber was the go-to for "shit in Ubers, devastatingly broken in OU".

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jun 2016 02:03:19 No.26816381 Report

Quoted By: >>26816432

>>26816139
>I have no idea what am I talking about: The post

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 21 Jun 2016 02:07:38 No.26816432 Report

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>>26816381
>This post
>In a smogon thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jun 2016 02:07:41 No.26816434 Report

Quoted By:

>>26810175
Legendaries in general should be banned from VGC. Not because they're inherently OP or anything, but because they give blatant hackers an unfair advantage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jun 2016 02:08:27 No.26816440 Report

Quoted By: >>26816477

>>26816139

Game Freak literally stated they introduced Fairy because Dragon-types had too much of an advantage over other Pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jun 2016 02:08:49 No.26816442 Report

Quoted By:

>>26810175

>using usage as your only argument

2016 and people are still doing this....

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jun 2016 02:11:56 No.26816476 Report

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Fuck Lando, band primal groudon, literally better than mega fug

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jun 2016 02:11:59 No.26816477 Report

Quoted By: >>26817831

>>26816440
A) Game Freak blatantly lied and
B) That still wasn't Game Freak balancing the game to cater to tourneyfags.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jun 2016 03:20:34 No.26817161 Report

Quoted By:

>>26810510
>Run Sableye and Gothorita
>Outright rape P-don and taunt all Trick Room Gengar's to death

Why is it so easy to antimeta?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jun 2016 04:18:32 No.26817783 Report

Quoted By: >>26817792

Why do you guys play by Smogon's rules instead of the far superior VGC?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jun 2016 04:19:37 No.26817792 Report

Quoted By: >>26817814

>>26817783
youre just falseflagging for someone to post that cap of the vgc champs teams arent you

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jun 2016 04:22:30 No.26817814 Report

Quoted By: >>26817911

>>26817792
No. I think that if there were money on the line, the top teams in a Smogon tournament would end up looking really similar, too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jun 2016 04:24:31 No.26817831 Report

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>>26816477

>"As of right now, the dragon type is at an advantage," Game Freak explained. "But nobody wants us to weaken the dragon type, of course. So we decided to come up with something that could really go up against the dragon type….we're hoping that by introducing it, we're going to restore balance, make it a more balanced game."

Eat shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Jun 2016 04:33:54 No.26817911 Report

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>>26817814
well yes of course, both metas have grossly oversaturated top tier threats. thats just the nature of a game like this. but why do you say vgc is "far superior" in a thread about high usage when it itself suffers from this even worse?

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