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The Twilight Princess of Pokémon?

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2016 13:58:39 No.26900934 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>26900944 >>26900967 >>26901935 >>26902000 >>26902829 >>26905531 >>26906905

>Excessive Gen I pandering (like the OoT pandering in TP)
>Relatively linear, with a "deep" but melodramatic story with bad pacing
>Meant to win back lapsed fans
>Loved by normies, hated by hipsters and 4chan who instead praise the more "experimental" and normalfag-alienating B2W2 and WW
>Controversial art shift
>In 3 years, the Kalosperm will be out in full force incessantly whining about how terrible Sun and Moon are

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2016 14:00:06 No.26900944 Report

Quoted By: >>26901889

>>26900934
>>In 3 years, the Kalosperm will be out in full force incessantly whining about how terrible Sun and Moon are
jesus, the games aren't even out and there is already meta complaints about it.
i can't fucking beleive it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2016 14:03:07 No.26900967 Report

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>>26900934
are you the same faggot who never played WW and tried to compared with pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2016 16:23:13 No.26901865 Report

Quoted By: >>26901907

Does everyone hate Pokemon X and Pokemon Y on /vp/?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2016 16:25:06 No.26901873 Report

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X and Y are not the longest and best games in the Pokemon franchise, so no

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2016 16:27:31 No.26901889 Report

Quoted By: >>26901915 >>26901950

>>26900944
There was a faggot on /v/ claiming it's already safe to assume the games are gonna be shit judging from the material released so far.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2016 16:29:00 No.26901907 Report

Quoted By: >>26901962 >>26902259

>>26901865
No, but it's safe to say the majority thinks of it as the worst, not saying the majority necessarily hates it though. Many people think all Pokémon games are fine, but that doesn't mean some can't be worse than others.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2016 16:29:54 No.26901915 Report

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>>26901889
>/v/

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2016 16:30:34 No.26901924 Report

Quoted By: >>26901950

>>26901915
Yeah what about it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2016 16:32:20 No.26901934 Report

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3rd Strike of Pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2016 16:32:20 No.26901935 Report

Quoted By: >>26901946 >>26901952 >>26901972 >>26901980

>>26900934
>Controversial art shift

Huehuehue
Only one or two sperglords on this board prefer the pixelated Gen 5 sprites over based models

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2016 16:33:23 No.26901946 Report

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>>26901935
(You)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2016 16:33:52 No.26901950 Report

Quoted By: >>26901964 >>26903342 >>26905077 >>26905944

>>26901889
>>26901915
>>26901924
/v/ is a hipster shithole
People there complain about masterpieces like Skyrim and Witcher 3 only for the sake of being contrarian

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2016 16:34:22 No.26901952 Report

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>>26901935
Fuck you

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2016 16:35:03 No.26901962 Report

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>>26901907
This ^

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2016 16:35:16 No.26901964 Report

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>>26901950
>Witcher 3
>masterpiece

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2016 16:36:25 No.26901972 Report

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>>26901935
Crystal had the best sprites.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2016 16:37:22 No.26901980 Report

Quoted By: >>26901986 >>26901988 >>26902027 >>26902033 >>26903018

>>26901935
The pixelart of Gen 5 was good, whereas the 3D textures of Gen 6 was horrible. 3D may be better than 2D, but Gen 6 did such a poor job they might as well have kept the pixelart for one more generation until they made something good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2016 16:38:18 No.26901986 Report

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>>26901980
They used more polygons than the 3DS could handle because they're lazy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2016 16:38:24 No.26901988 Report

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>>26901980
>The pixelart of Gen 5

More like PIXELart lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2016 16:39:42 No.26902000 Report

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>>26900934
Oh I think I remeber you. I like TP, but X and Y are actually shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2016 16:42:33 No.26902018 Report

Quoted By: >>26902275

I genuinely refuse to believe Sun and Moon can be worse than X and Y, even if they try.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2016 16:43:51 No.26902027 Report

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>>26901980
>3D may be better than 2D
Since when?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2016 16:45:05 No.26902033 Report

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>>26901980
>the pixelart was good
>

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2016 17:09:52 No.26902239 Report

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>>26901934
>best fighting game ever
>Black and White
I don't know, anon. I love BW and B2W2 but 3rd Strike is almost perfect. If the tiers were more balanced it would probably be my favorite game of all time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2016 17:13:06 No.26902259 Report

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>>26901907
And in /vp/ speak, it translates to excessive hate and bashing of the game, even if it isn't representative of users' IRL feelings towards it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2016 17:14:20 No.26902266 Report

Quoted By: >>26902327

>>26901934
Pretty much. Both BW and 3rd Strike ditch most of the beloved cast from their predecessors, but are the most beloved games by the vocal hardcore minorities of their respective fandoms.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2016 17:15:24 No.26902275 Report

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>>26902018
Wait for the influx of "XY was a masterpiece, SuMo are absolute shit" topics anywhere from 3 months to 1 year after this November.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2016 17:23:27 No.26902327 Report

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>>26902266
3rd Strike had the most SFII characters of the SFIII iterations. But in some ways 2nd Impact is better than 3rd Strike. The roster is more balanced, with no top-tier character dominating(Chun) or joke-tier character floundering(Sean). 2nd Impact just isn't easily accessible and it has fewer characters so it's largely been forgotten.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2016 18:30:10 No.26902829 Report

Quoted By: >>26902992 >>26903010 >>26905104 >>26905144 >>26906666

>>26900934
>Gen 1 pandering is a flaw.

This meme needs to end.

There is nothing objectively wrong about having access to Kanto starters, Lapras, Snorlax, Mewtwo etc. ONly if you have autistic hatred for Gen1 could this possibly be considered a bad thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2016 18:56:33 No.26902992 Report

Quoted By: >>26911451

>>26902829
they literally recreated game events from RGBY

>Santalune Forest is a replica of Viridian Forest
>Snorlax and Poké Flute
etc.

that's different from giving you access to older mons

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2016 19:00:03 No.26903010 Report

Quoted By: >>26903020 >>26903026

>>26902829
Pandering isn't a flaw exactly, like FRLG's pattern bush where it was RG's memory chip and it was filled with bug types was cool

Fucking reusing exact layouts of old forests
Reusing a Snorlax on a bridge where you need to use a pokeflute
And keeping only the Kanto legends in game is bullshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2016 19:01:02 No.26903018 Report

Quoted By: >>26903274

>>26901980
Gen V was easily the worst in the series from an aesthetic standpoint.
>sprites tweening and flailing about all over the place
>those god awful zoomed-in back sprites, where you could see every individual pixel
>battle backgrounds are a bunch of colors vomited out together with little rhyme or reason

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2016 19:01:06 No.26903020 Report

Quoted By: >>26903046

>>26903010
>like FRLG's pattern bush where it was RG's memory chip and it was filled with bug types was cool
this is Bulbapedo nonsense

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2016 19:02:10 No.26903026 Report

Quoted By: >>26903046

>>26903010
>bullshit because i say so
lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2016 19:05:07 No.26903046 Report

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>>26903020
What wrong about it? It's a nice nod to how buggy the games were

>>26903026
>bullshit because I said so
lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2016 19:36:52 No.26903274 Report

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>>26903018
As someone who loves Gen V, I agree with this. Backsprites were fucking Genwun-tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2016 19:46:02 No.26903342 Report

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>>26901950
I'd be more concerned about how the praise fucking Neptunia.

That shit is absolute garbage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2016 23:18:02 No.26905077 Report

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>>26901950
Your teenage angst and ignorance shows

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2016 23:21:37 No.26905104 Report

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>>26902829
THANK YOU. This, so much. This board does seem to have autistic hatred for Gen 1.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2016 23:23:42 No.26905116 Report

Quoted By: >>26905129

Everyone is hyping up the story of Sun and Moon but I just want Black and White 3. There was still a shit load of material to cover.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2016 23:26:03 No.26905129 Report

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>>26905116
And /vp/ will hate it if the Kanto starters and Mewtwo are somehow obtainable in-game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2016 23:29:28 No.26905144 Report

Quoted By: >>26905151

>>26902829
They immensely overdone it and you know it. The game even has the fucking bird trio.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Jun 2016 23:30:26 No.26905151 Report

Quoted By: >>26906572

>>26905144
>The game even has the fucking bird trio.
So did Platinum.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 00:19:38 No.26905531 Report

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>>26900934
I made this comparison in a thread earlier this week.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 00:22:49 No.26905560 Report

Quoted By: >>26905640

As someone who grew up playing Red/Blue on that original brick of a gameboy I still don't understand how any holds the original 151 in high regards outside of blind nostalgia. Gen 2 is somehow even worse, being the leftovers that couldn't make it into the original games.

Gen 3 is where pokemon design kind of started finding it's footing, Gen 4 tried some new stuff but given how Gen 5 and 6 look they kind of rolled back on that weirdly eclectic, strangely aggressive look a lot of them had in Gen 4. Gen 5-6 are simply the best when it comes to pokemon design, hitting that sweet spot I talked about earlier.

Gen 7 looks to on par with 6 with designs so far, so they're only getting better at it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 00:32:21 No.26905640 Report

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>>26905560
>I still don't understand how any holds the original 151 in high regards outside of blind nostalgia.
That's literally it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 01:09:42 No.26905944 Report

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>>26901950
this is bait even if you didnt mean it to be

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 02:11:09 No.26906572 Report

Quoted By: >>26906637

>>26905151
But in Platinum it was ok because it was a good game.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 02:18:35 No.26906637 Report

Quoted By: >>26906655

>>26906572
>Platinum
>Good

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 02:20:33 No.26906655 Report

Quoted By: >>26906662

>>26906637
Platinum is the only game with a good Elite 4, of course it's good.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 02:21:59 No.26906662 Report

Quoted By: >>26906679

>>26906655
>Platinum is the only game with a good Elite 4

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 02:22:26 No.26906666 Report

Quoted By: >>26906674

>>26902829
Because it was a new gen. We wanted new encounters, things and places. But if its just a fucking reskin of an older game of course thats gonna piss one off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 02:23:15 No.26906674 Report

Quoted By: >>26906727

>>26906666
To be fair, only gen 5 gave us that true fresh feeling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 02:24:18 No.26906679 Report

Quoted By: >>26906707

>>26906662
Is that your argument?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 02:27:16 No.26906707 Report

Quoted By: >>26906716

>>26906679
My argument is the game itself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 02:27:58 No.26906716 Report

Quoted By: >>26906740

>>26906707
What is wrong with Platinum's Elite 4?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 02:29:22 No.26906727 Report

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>>26906674
Yeah and it got backlash for that. Pokemon fans are sure hard to please

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 02:30:38 No.26906740 Report

Quoted By: >>26906750

>>26906716
Aside from the fact that it's piss easy to the point where you could rush it down with an underleveled shitmon like it was gen 1?
Nothing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 02:31:46 No.26906750 Report

Quoted By: >>26906786

>>26906740
0/10

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 02:36:06 No.26906786 Report

Quoted By: >>26906818

>>26906750
If you honestly found it difficult then there's no hope for you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 02:40:24 No.26906818 Report

Quoted By: >>26906842

>>26906786
I'm not him but, What's a hard/good elite 4?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 02:44:44 No.26906842 Report

Quoted By: >>26906849 >>26909111

>>26906818
This is Pokemon, none of them are hard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 02:45:47 No.26906849 Report

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>>26906842
Then what's a good elite 4, to compare to platinums bad one then

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 02:50:40 No.26906905 Report

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>>26900934

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Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 06:37:29 No.26909111 Report

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>>26906842
If that's the case then explain why platinum's e4 was bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 08:40:58 No.26911426 Report

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>>26901934
More like the Apollo Justice of Pokemon
>near to no connection to the past
>DS title that sucks
>absolutely horrible in everything it does, all their attemps to pander to the audiemce backfires
>the devs pretend it doesn't exist in the much better received 3DS sequel

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 08:42:35 No.26911451 Report

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>>26902992
Early game forest is nothing new.
>Ilex in Johto
>Petalburg in Hoenn
>Eterna in Sinnoh
>Pinwheel in Unova

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Jun 2016 08:48:19 No.26911546 Report

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WW and TP are both bad and neither really experiments

BW2 is also good because it experimented less than BW1 which was shit for its experimentation

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